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Topic: 2013 6'5" SG/SF D.J. Wingfield (Lockland, OH)- OHIO Signee
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GoCats105
3/13/2013 11:11 PM
Well it was a rough night for DJ. He scored four of the first six points for Walnut Hills, but he was plagued with foul trouble the entire night and didn't score any more because he couldn't get into a rhythm. It stinks not to see the good DJ play, but it's not a bad thing to see it either.

First about the game: 

Walnut Hills beat Springboro 52-46 in a game that looked like an upset waiting to happen, but Springboro just couldn't hit shots when it needed to. If you know anything about either team, they both like to feed it to their big men early and often. Walnut Hills was quicker, but Springboro was probably more fundamentally sound.

The problem with that is, once Springboro's big man Maverick Morgan go doubled or tripled, the other offensive players weren't aggressive enough and didn't shoot a lot of wide open jumpers. It's part of the reason that they struggled in the first half and trailed most of the game. They also tried to go straight up man with the more athletic and quick WH, and Isaiah Johnson dominated the paint. Once they switched to a zone, they slowly pulled back into it.

Walnut Hills is a good team, but they are very beatable if Wingfield/Johnson aren't playing well or in foul trouble and Johnson has a counterpart who can take him shot for shot or better, which Morgan did all night long. The WH guards were just better than Springboro's tonight and made more open looks to crack the zone.

Player reactions:

Isaiah Johnson - I can see why people rave about him. He's as big as a house and can rarely be stopped unless someone as big as him is playing straight up against him. He doesn't move away from the blocks very much, and why would you? He plays in Cincinnati, where it doesn't seem like there is a wealth of big men to go around, so he can dominate night in and night out. (He had 16 points and 13 rebounds tonight) 

His movement without the ball is where he gets his easy looks. I was surprised how many open passes he got because he had great position in the post or made the right cut while his guard was driving. Other than that, he just posts up and waits for something to happen around him.

I don't think he's very quick though, which kind of puzzles me as to why people think he's so good. I will admit, I see the potential, but he's definitely not someone like a Leon Williams or Brandon Hunter or even a Demetrius Treadwell. He's a BIG dude, and that's about it. They'll need to work on his quickness up in Akron around the rim, because he'll get contained by bigger competition. Right now he can get away with it because everyone is so much smaller than him. It's not like the MAC is flooded with big men, but there's enough 6'6" guys with long arms to cause him fits once he puts it on the deck.

He's a good free throw shooter, so he's got touch, but he doesn't shoot much outside of 10 feet. Defensively, he just clogs the lane and doesn't really look to block shots unless it's a small guard penetrating.

Maverick Morgan - This guy is all John Groce. He's a big man who can shoot 15 footers and passes well. And I was surprised with his strength inside against the bigger Johnson (finished with 19 points, 12 rebounds and 6 blocks). His face up turn around jumper is his strength. But the weird part is, when he gets it on the right side, either high or low, he spins inward on his right pivot foot. He exposes himself and goes straight up and down, whereas most players would spin the other way and fade. He buried probably three or four of those right in Johnson's face. Unlike Johnson, he looked to block shots, and even got a couple on Johnson. He outplayed him in my eyes, which I'm sure is one of the first times Johnson could say that about any of his opponents.

DJ Wingfield - Like I mentioned earlier he was in foul trouble all night long, so I didn't really get a great look at him. But even with the limited action, you could tell even on a couple of plays that he was the best player on the floor., including Johnson and Morgan. If I had to classify him with a comparison, I would say he's a cross between Whitney Davis, Ricardo Johnson and TJ Hall. He's got the quickness on the bounce of Davis, a smooth up and down jumper like Ricardo and maybe a little bit raw like Hall was coming out of high school. He'll be a great replacement for those two when they leave, and also a sub next year when they need a few minutes' breather. 

The thing that kind of hinders him is the system he plays in. Walnut Hills runs a 3-1-1 offense, if there ever was such a thing. They have three guards who whip the ball around the perimeter and cut back and forth on the baselines. With Johnson occupying the blocks, DJ kind of gets lost in the shuffle. So in essence, he's sort of in the mold of a point forward, but he doesn't handle the ball as much. I would imagine he gets a lot of put backs on the misses of the guards shooting and Johnson in the blocks. I also think with him being lost in the shuffle, defenses kind of forget about him too. 

Defensively, I liked what I saw and he hustled after loose balls when he could. The four fouls weren't necessarily bad fouls or bad calls, he just got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.  

He'll take some time develop against better competition, but overall I like him. He's gonna be a perfect compliment for Christian's system once all the bigs are in place.

Was impressed by the guardsWH had: Ricardo Hill, Khari Burton and Sterling Gilmore. I wouldn't be surprised if one or two got some late looks from smaller DI schools. Also, they have another big man by the name of Jordan Tyson who is listed at 6'10" and he's very long and more athletic than Johnson. He's a project, but I can't find anything on him. Mike Dyer says he's getting interest from Morehead State and Jacksonville State.
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Monroe Slavin
3/14/2013 1:01 AM
Very nice write-up 105--thorough, well-observed and well written.
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Ted Thompson
3/14/2013 9:49 AM
Some video from the game:

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brucecuth
3/17/2013 2:42 PM
13 points, 8 rebounds in regional final win.  D.J. and Walnut Hills advance to the state tourney this coming weekend. 
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Jeff McKinney
3/19/2013 3:10 PM
I noticed that D.J. was not named to the all-state team...even honorable mention.

I don't really think those all state teams carry much credibility.  Too many political factors play into it.  Much better barometers of a player's performance are:  which schools offered a player, and secondly, where does a player rank on "best players in the state" rankings by the more reputable recruiting sites.
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brucecuth
3/19/2013 7:45 PM
He wasn't first team all district either.

I also like Jeff's overall point about these all state teams.  You can find online a list of the AP all state teams.  Go through them, year by year and you'll be surprised at some of the names you find, and don't find.   
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bigtillyoopsupsideurhead
3/20/2013 9:40 AM
brucecuth wrote:expand_more
He wasn't first team all district either.

I also like Jeff's overall point about these all state teams.  You can find online a list of the AP all state teams.  Go through them, year by year and you'll be surprised at some of the names you find, and don't find.   


Exactly, I trust the people that scout and recruit for a living more than the people who vote on the All-State teams. Here is Scout's Ohio rankings. 

scouthoops.scout.com/a.z

He is 8th in the State on this, that puts him ahead of Evan Bradds, his Akron bound teammate Isiah Johnson, a Wisconsin commit, and two Toledo commits, to name a few. 

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Monroe Slavin
3/20/2013 10:00 AM

Maybe.  And I hope this is another DJ who's a stud.

But, what, would you object if he was named POY in the state??

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The Optimist
3/20/2013 10:04 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
I noticed that D.J. was not named to the all-state team...even honorable mention.

I don't really think those all state teams carry much credibility.  Too many political factors play into it.  Much better barometers of a player's performance are:  which schools offered a player, and secondly, where does a player rank on "best players in the state" rankings by the more reputable recruiting sites.

I noticed this in another sport. It is all politics. The guys who make all-state are the guys who have the biggest name coaches.

Players in tough leagues are also punished because their stat-line isn't as pretty.
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bobcatsquared
3/20/2013 1:10 PM
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
He wasn't first team all district either.

I also like Jeff's overall point about these all state teams.  You can find online a list of the AP all state teams.  Go through them, year by year and you'll be surprised at some of the names you find, and don't find.   


Exactly, I trust the people that scout and recruit for a living more than the people who vote on the All-State teams. Here is Scout's Ohio rankings. 

scouthoops.scout.com/a.z

He is 8th in the State on this, that puts him ahead of Evan Bradds, his Akron bound teammate Isiah Johnson, a Wisconsin commit, and two Toledo commits, to name a few. 



Speaking of Bradds, the all-Ohio list out today has him at 6 - 9. Was that a misprint or has he grown that much? He wasn't listed at 6 - 9 during Ohio's recruitment of him. Could be a recruiting coup for Belmont.
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 9:12 PM
http://radio.securenetsystems.net/radio_player_large.cfm?...


DJ's Walnut Hills team down 29-28 at the half in the State Semi-Final.  DJ has 11 pts.  Link is for old school audio if you want to listen.  If they win, they would play at 8:15 on STO against Mentor tomorrow night.
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 10:01 PM
DJ's Walnut Hills team melts down like a certain team he is about to join and losses 58-51.  I think he ended up with 19 pts.  
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JSF
3/22/2013 10:16 PM
ohio9704 wrote:expand_more
DJ's Walnut Hills team melts down like a certain team he is about to join and losses 58-51.  I think he ended up with 19 pts.  


At least he'll have great fans like you.
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 10:29 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
DJ's Walnut Hills team melts down like a certain team he is about to join and losses 58-51.  I think he ended up with 19 pts.  


At least he'll have great fans like you.


If you are talking about ones that tuned in tonight and traveled to watch him play this year, then yes you are right.  Sorry honest evaluation and not sugar coating on my part bothers you.   Again, you come from the everyone gets a trophy generation to make everyone feel good, and I come from the tell it like it is generation.  He is very talented and already has more offensive game then Ricardo.  He might start at the "3" spot next year.
Last Edited: 3/22/2013 10:49:45 PM by ohio9704
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Bryan
3/22/2013 10:57 PM
Wingfield wound up with 20 points and 9 boards tonight. Averaged 15.6 points, 6.4 rebounds and 2.1 assists on the season.
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shabamon
3/22/2013 11:01 PM
ohio9704 wrote:expand_more
DJ's Walnut Hills team melts down like a certain team he is about to join and losses 58-51.  I think he ended up with 19 pts.  


Are you available for parties?
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JSF
3/22/2013 11:03 PM
ohio9704 wrote:expand_more
Sorry honest evaluation and not sugar coating on my part bothers you.[/quote]

Yawn. You confuse honest evaluation and not sugar coating with license to say whatever you want. You're a jerk. That's my honest evaluation and I'm not sugar coating it.

[quote]Again, you come from the everyone gets a trophy generation to make everyone feel good, and I come from the tell it like it is generation.


Again, you don't know me and stop pretending you do. You don't know anything about how I was raised or how many trophies I was handed. I have no problem with people telling it like is. YOU don't do that.

Really, Wolverine said it best.

Edit: Or maybe shab did.
Last Edited: 3/22/2013 11:04:16 PM by JSF
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 11:10 PM
JSF wrote:expand_more
Sorry honest evaluation and not sugar coating on my part bothers you.


Yawn. You confuse honest evaluation and not sugar coating with license to say whatever you want. You're a jerk. That's my honest evaluation and I'm not sugar coating it.

Again, you come from the everyone gets a trophy generation to make everyone feel good, and I come from the tell it like it is generation.


Again, you don't know me and stop pretending you do. You don't know anything about how I was raised or how many trophies I was handed. I have no problem with people telling it like is. YOU don't do that.

Really, Wolverine said it best.

Edit: Or maybe shab did.


As usual, an ignorant and uninformed post by you.  Back to the original topic you chose to post on.  Have you seen DJ play?  Did you watch or listen to the game tonight?  Did you have any idea who was playing in their game tonight?  Did you have any idea who was a heavy favorite in this game tonight.  As usual, no clue!
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Mike Coleman
3/22/2013 11:21 PM
How many points did the Akron recruit have?
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JSF
3/22/2013 11:23 PM
Again, you're trying to deflect and distract. I'm talking about you. And you managed to trash DJ's future and (now) former team in one sentence. Well done! Good job traveling to games. I guess that gives you license to condescend on high schoolers.

And by saying I'm uninformed and ignorant, you're implying you DO know me and my upbringing. Better bring proof on that one. Except I'm neither uninformed nor ignorant. I'm not the one who treats every loss like it's a new achievement in incompetence. I'm not the one who bails on the team and starts insulting them when they go down a few buckets. That's you. You suck.
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 11:24 PM
JSF: Did you and your followers also fail to see where I mentioned that he has more of an offensive game then Ricardo and might start at the "3" next year?  You always seen to concentrate on any comment that isn't positive and fail to see anything that is.  Like I have said during games in the CHAT all year, kid is very good and we are lucky to have him.  Never said anything negative about his game tonight, but his team (including Big going to Crakron) melted down tonight.  
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 11:28 PM
Mike: The Crakron kid had 17, but 6-19 from the field,
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JSF
3/22/2013 11:33 PM
Yes, you said that after I called you out. Great, he has more of an offensive game than a guy who has virtually no offense. Big allowance there.

You said they melted down. They led by 2 points going into the fourth, correct? And they lost by 7? Did they take a big lead and then fall apart? Or are you just dispensing with your usual hyperbole?

“They’re a great team on a super hot streak,” stated Walnut Hills mentor Ricardo Hill. “They hit some shots against us that normally teams don’t hit.”

They don't sound like they think they melted down. They.
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ohio9704
3/22/2013 11:44 PM
Look back at the entire thread from the beginning.  Who was the first to share the tweet from Reggie Rankin about the committ?  Who shared articles and box scores along the way?  Again, nothing negative said about anything ever about DJ's game.  I have never "trashed DJ's future" as you said.   I'm glad you buy a coaches quotes after he lost a game that he was an overwhelming favorite in.  Team was up 5 in 4th with ball and ended up losing by 7.  12 pt turn around in a HS game is a melt down at this level of state Final Four.  Again, wher did I say anything negative about DJ or his game?
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