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Topic: 6'8"/225 F Kenny Kaminski (Medina HS/Michigan St.) - Ohio Transfer
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OUVan
8/25/2014 10:03 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
WOAH.

Just saw that Arkley stated he is looking for a waiver to play this year. That would be huge. Huge. 

 


Wonder what grounds they are attempting to get the waiver on.  Would love to see it granted but it seems like a stretch to me. 
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The Optimist
8/25/2014 10:08 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
WOAH.

Just saw that Arkley stated he is looking for a waiver to play this year. That would be huge. Huge. 

 


Wonder what grounds they are attempting to get the waiver on.  Would love to see it granted but it seems like a stretch to me. 


Agreed. Seems like a stretch. I was expecting him to not be eligible to play until next year following the Izzo letter. I have no clue how likely it is... Then again, you never really do with the NCAA.
I do know that he would be a perfect fit to help with our frontcourt depth this year.
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intrpdtrvlr
8/25/2014 10:20 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
WOAH.

Just saw that Arkley stated he is looking for a waiver to play this year. That would be huge. Huge. 

 


Wonder what grounds they are attempting to get the waiver on.  Would love to see it granted but it seems like a stretch to me. 


I'm thinking it's a "why not, worth a shot" thing.  I'd be very surprised if there are rock solid grounds.
Last Edited: 8/25/2014 10:21:19 AM by intrpdtrvlr
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bigtillyoopsupsideurhead
8/25/2014 10:25 AM
This is definitely worth the risk. He's a 6'8 athletic 49% 3-pt shooter. This is an absolute steal for us. 
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Andrew Ruck
8/25/2014 10:37 AM
I don't think it's that much of a long shot.  If they can prove it was anything short of a slam dunk of a decision to dismiss him from the team, they can make a case for the dismissal putting him in an unreasonable situation.  Not saying it is likely but it would not shock me.
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Flomo-genized
8/25/2014 10:40 AM
I agree any request for immediate eligibility for a transfer is a long-shot.  But there are a couple extenuating circumstances here that might make it more plausible.  First, he was (apparently) involuntarily dismissed from his former program.  Second, he's already missed one season due to injury.  So if a waiver isn't granted, he'll effectively lose a season of eligibility through no fault of his own (setting aside whatever it was that he did to lead to his dismissal in East Lansing).

Even if this waiver is denied, I think there would be a chance he could seek a 6th year of eligibility down the road.
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JSF
8/25/2014 10:43 AM
You know this is big when it prompts a Flomo-genized appearance.
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intrpdtrvlr
8/25/2014 10:57 AM
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
This is definitely worth the risk. He's a 6'8 athletic 49% 3-pt shooter. This is an absolute steal for us. 


I don't know if I'd call Kaminski "athletic."  He's not  "unathletic" but it's not a strong suit.  He's not very quick or intuitive as a defender, and his hops and nose for rebounds will not jump out at you.  The size and shooting is accurate though.  He's really a specialist right now, though granted he's a redshirt sophomore.
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Bobcat1998
8/25/2014 11:00 AM
But let's put him in terms of the MAC. I love our conference but I'm also a realist. Someone like Mo would excel at a big-time school but for the most part, we have MAC guys, mid-major guys. Kaminski will be a VERY GOOD mid-major player for us and if he can play this year he gets three years instead of 2. That would be HUGE to be able to pair him with Tony, Jaaron, Dartis for the next 2 years AFTER this season. Great get Saul!
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OUVan
8/25/2014 11:35 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
Then again, you never really do with the NCAA.


You really don't but their head-scratching approvals are typically in favor of programs with a lot higher profile than Ohio.
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GoCats105
8/25/2014 12:00 PM
Flomo-genized wrote:expand_more
I agree any request for immediate eligibility for a transfer is a long-shot.  But there are a couple extenuating circumstances here that might make it more plausible.  First, he was (apparently) involuntarily dismissed from his former program.  Second, he's already missed one season due to injury.  So if a waiver isn't granted, he'll effectively lose a season of eligibility through no fault of his own (setting aside whatever it was that he did to lead to his dismissal in East Lansing).

Even if this waiver is denied, I think there would be a chance he could seek a 6th year of eligibility down the road.


Dismissal from the team does not mean dismissal from the school unfortunately. So he would still have to transfer school credits from MSU to Ohio. Technically speaking, that should matter to the NCAA but we've learned in the past that even though schools are associated with the NCAA and athletic teams are also, the two are not always mutually exclusive.

I would say it probably depends on what Kaminski did in order to be dismissed. Dorial Green-Beckham just tried the same thing after being "dismissed" from Missouri and his transfer to Oklahoma. It was recently denied and I have no doubt his run-ins with the law had something to do with it. Hopefully that is not the case with Kaminski.
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perimeterpost
8/25/2014 12:13 PM
I'm so excited, I'm so excited... I'm so scared.
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The Optimist
8/25/2014 12:24 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
 I have no doubt his run-ins with the law had something to do with it. Hopefully that is not the case with Kaminski.
My logic:
Kaminski hasn't had any run-ins with the law (at least I haven't seen any) so that is a positive in his favor.

NCAA logic:
#REF!




 
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100%Cat
8/25/2014 12:26 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
I'm so excited, I'm so excited... I'm so scared.


X2.
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Ohio69
8/25/2014 12:57 PM
100%Cat wrote:expand_more
I'm so excited, I'm so excited... I'm so scared.


X2.


Seems like in every sport a coach/program takes a risky chance on a kid once every few years.  Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't.  Hope this one works.  If not, I hope we figure that out quickly minimize any damage.
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brucecuth
8/25/2014 1:01 PM
I'm scared, too. Scared that whatever problems he had at MSU he may bring with him to Athens.  I hope he has learned from his mistakes.
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GoCats105
8/25/2014 1:24 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
I'm so excited, I'm so excited... I'm so scared.


Dude, caffeine pills are dangerous.
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Hawaiian Bobcat
8/25/2014 1:58 PM
Excellent catch on the Saved by the Bell reference!

In all seriousness, what level of transfer is this guy?

Armon Bassett- a guy that could single handedly win the MAC tournament for us.

Shaun Stonerook- a guy that could win POY and be a team leader.

Walter Offut- Great team guy potential All MAC first team.

Jon Sanderson- Good Contributor.

Marian Bota- Train wreck

Johnnie Jackson- Dumpster Fire.
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OUVan
8/25/2014 1:59 PM
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That said, his dismissal was certainly not just a case of trying to get rid of dead weight, and I'm pretty sure that head coach they have at MSU is a pretty respected and fair dude.  I trust that Saul did his due diligence and got comfortable that Kenny showed a renewed commitment.  I hope Kenny took responsibility for his dismissal rather than tried to say he was "wronged."  I'll be interested to see the quotes from Saul and Kenny.


Izzo's comments have me a little worried.  I can't recall him throwing a player under the bus with this much force. Hopefully it serves as a sufficient wakeup call. 
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perimeterpost
8/25/2014 3:08 PM
if interested, here are some comments made by anonymous internet users in a forum established for the purpose of discussing athletics at Michigan State University.

http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/Contents/Kenn...
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Andrew Ruck
8/25/2014 3:22 PM
Interesting - Looks like it is universally known by the Spartan faithful that his troubles were wrapped up in Mary Jane...
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The Optimist
8/25/2014 3:53 PM
Brad Bournival of Medina Gazette tweeted that Mike Ashcraft stated Kaminski will sit this year and have two to play.

Even if he cannot suit up this year, I think his presence on the roster helps give us a little depth in practice. I really wish he could play this year as our depth in the post is lacking a bit and he would be a wonderful compliment to NDOUR.
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C Money
8/25/2014 4:09 PM
[in the voice of Jeff Goldblum]

Saul Phillips...Ohio University basketball coach....
Saul Phillips....Saul....Saul Goodman....
Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad, which involved drugs...
Drugs...illegal drugs...marijuana....
Marijuana use....allegations....Kenny Kaminsky....
From Michigan State....Michigan.....which is next to Wisconsin....
Which is where Saul Phillips is from!
Saul Goodman relocated to Nebraska, former Ohio University basketball coach Danny Nee relocated to Nebraska....
Current Ohio University basketball coach Saul Phillips relocated from Wisconsin to North Dakota State!
North Dakota is where C Money's Ohio University college roommate took an incriminating picture of himself standing next to a giant marijuana plant he found growing along a river bank!

Saul Phillips is a drug king pin, shuttling marijuana from North Dakota to Ohio via Nebraska. and Kenny Kaminsky is the bag man!
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cc-cat
8/25/2014 4:56 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
Brad Bournival of Medina Gazette tweeted that Mike Ashcraft stated Kaminski will sit this year and have two to play.

Even if he cannot suit up this year, I think his presence on the roster helps give us a little depth in practice. I really wish he could play this year as our depth in the post is lacking a bit and he would be a wonderful compliment to NDOUR.


Sitting this year means that if he does go sideways, he won't drag the team down in mid-year (unless others follow) - but I think the team's core is solid.
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perimeterpost
8/25/2014 5:12 PM
KK played AAU ball with Jaaron Simmons and JS appears to have been influential in getting him here. If they both red shirt together I hope JS is able to influence KK positively both in practice and off the court.
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