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Topic: 2017 6'0" PG Griffin Lutz (Athens HS) - Ohio Interest
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OUBobcat13
12/13/2015 10:42 AM
Anyone know his level of interest in staying in Athens? Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local?
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OUVan
12/13/2015 12:17 PM
OUBobcat13 wrote:expand_more
Anyone know his level of interest in staying in Athens? Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local?
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Danny's Knee
12/13/2015 6:04 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
Anyone know his level of interest in staying in Athens? Or his parent's interest in wanting him to stay local?
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Troll ? .. I think the real question is .... Can the kid play ?
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bornacatfan
12/16/2015 7:39 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Quit trolling! You obviously won't be happy with anyone's answer. Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats, stay an extra day and catch an AHS game and give Saul your opinion, I'm sure it would be appreciated.
Pretty sure you, of all people, know that Bobcat Black seats are not present during Tourney. I do not see any other time they are in the Convo

http://www.athensbulldogs.org/main/teamschedule/id/37488/...

Might want to tell someone to update the Bulldog Blitz page also. Coaches are the same but roster has changed a bit
Last Edited: 12/16/2015 7:44:15 AM by bornacatfan
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BillyTheCat
12/16/2015 8:33 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Quit trolling! You obviously won't be happy with anyone's answer. Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats, stay an extra day and catch an AHS game and give Saul your opinion, I'm sure it would be appreciated.
Pretty sure you, of all people, know that Bobcat Black seats are not present during Tourney. I do not see any other time they are in the Convo

http://www.athensbulldogs.org/main/teamschedule/id/37488/...

Might want to tell someone to update the Bulldog Blitz page also. Coaches are the same but roster has changed a bit
Athens does not play at the convo, maybe you need some reading comprehension. The statement is; "Buy Monroe's Bobcat Black Seats (for the OHIO game), stay an extra day and catch an AHS game (meaning where they play locally).
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OU_Country
12/16/2015 10:40 AM
Has anyone seen Lutz play recently so they can talk about his skills as a PG, and viability as an Ohio Student athlete?


(I know, I'm a troll - no need to waste a post calling me out)
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
12/16/2015 1:01 PM
You guys are asking the wrong questions. Let a professional go to work here.

(Ahem)

Is basketball a game he can play?
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Andrew Ruck
12/16/2015 1:27 PM
Hopefully we can find someone who is closely plugged in to the Athens High athletics scene to offer up some details that we all so desperately want but have not yet received. You'd think there would be at least one person like that around here somewhere.
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Alan Swank
12/17/2015 1:40 PM
I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad.
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OUVan
12/17/2015 2:12 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad.
My roommates worked radio/tv for WOUB back when Steve was at Athens and I'd tag along to see the games. He was every bit of 6'5". He was a lot of fun to watch. Shame about his back because I was sure he would have made an impact at Ohio.
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OU_Country
12/17/2015 3:13 PM
I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson?
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Alan Swank
12/17/2015 4:31 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
I saw the kid play as a freshman and as a sophomore and at the OU summer team camp on a team loaded with D 1 football talent. The kid is deceptively quick and smooth and is a quick jumper. His left hand is as good as his right when it comes to ball handling. He's the best kid to come out of Athens (assuming he graduates from Athens) since Steve Bruning who also played for OU. Although a very good player, Steve was not as fundamentally sound as this kid and unfortunately never became what so many had hoped for during his time at OU. A nagging back injury kept him from realizing his full potential. I could go back in the old track scorebooks and check but Steve was a 6'5 or 6'6 high jumper too. Lutz would be a very nice addition to the OU squad.
My roommates worked radio/tv for WOUB back when Steve was at Athens and I'd tag along to see the games. He was every bit of 6'5". He was a lot of fun to watch. Shame about his back because I was sure he would have made an impact at Ohio.
Sorry for the confusion - I meant he could high jump 6'5 or 6'6.
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Alan Swank
12/17/2015 4:33 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson?
To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did.
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jumper80
12/17/2015 5:32 PM
Played with Steve ....6'5"
Could put the ball in the basket :)
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OUVan
12/18/2015 12:02 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Sorry for the confusion - I meant he could high jump 6'5 or 6'6.
DOH, my bad.
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bornacatfan
12/19/2015 1:29 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did.
We have been fighting that in Indiana since Everett Case was fired at Frankfort for moving parents into his district.....good thing NC State found a job for him 726-75 as a HS coach and went on to become the Father of ACC Basketball.

Too bad we can't find someone who is in the building on a daily basis and in the gym around practice that may give us some insight.

I am sure if Athens plays Alexander I can get a report. Have to look at the schedule.
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Antonio Pierce
12/19/2015 3:30 PM
Lutz scored 37 last night. He averages 33 per game.
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bornacatfan
12/20/2015 1:36 PM
vs Watterson no less. I should be able to get some good input vs Alexander early Jan.

Is he a true 6 foot? Plays the 1 2 or 3 spot? Penetrator or shooter? Good off the dribble or set up shooter? Good handles? Good court vision? Make his teamies better or gets his own? Assists to go along with scoring? Defend well? Lateral speed and quickness? Willing to defer when doubled? Crafty rebounder? BBIQ? All questions I look to ask when I see a kid.

Maybe Wanny will make a rare guest appearance since he retired the nom de plume....or use his current one.....
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BillyTheCat
12/20/2015 2:20 PM
The 37 was not against Watterson, That was from Friday night. Local paper has him at 33.8ppg, 12rpg, 6apg. One would think with all they lost last year that he has to be the primary scorer. As for the other qualities, I'll defer to someone who has more knowledge, I just base my original comments to the beginning of this thread from the reports of recurit net by several schools at this stage of the game. You'd think some local basketball fans would be able to help you out here though.
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mcbin
12/23/2015 11:08 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
You'd think some local basketball fans would be able to help you out here though.
This is getting comical
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Alan Swank
12/24/2015 12:12 PM
While doing some last minute Christmas shoppiing uptown, I just talked to with one of the longest tenured coaches in SE Ohio about Lutz. Direct quote - "he can definitely play for OU." Remember too that he's just a junior.
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OhioCatFan
1/4/2016 11:44 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson?
To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did.
Amen, Bro! I still remember when Portsmouth's top-ranked football team had to forfeit all of their games back in the 1960s because it was discovered that their star player's father had been given a job at a local business by a booster. Previously, this kid had played for another team in a nearby district. Today this kind of stuff can be done and no one even investigates to discover if there has been a quid pro quo or not. And, I'd bet real money that in some cases these transfers stink to high heaven. But, nobody cares since most Ohio schools now have open enrollment for anyone from anywhere. I had thought, until recently, that state law required open enrollment; however, it does not. My wife's hometown of Bexley does not allow any students to transfer in from other districts. One must live in Bexley to go to school there. Wish more schools would do this.
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BillyTheCat
1/4/2016 12:37 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
I'm curious Alan - a lot of good was said about Ibi Watson prior to their moving to Pickerington. They are obviously different types of players, but how would you compare Lutz to Watson?
To be fair I didn't see Ibi enough to compare plus I'm old school and a bit jaded when it comes to players transferring schools like he did.
Amen, Bro! I still remember when Portsmouth's top-ranked football team had to forfeit all of their games back in the 1960s because it was discovered that their star player's father had been given a job at a local business by a booster. Previously, this kid had played for another team in a nearby district. Today this kind of stuff can be done and no one even investigates to discover if there has been a quid pro quo or not. And, I'd bet real money that in some cases these transfers stink to high heaven. But, nobody cares since most Ohio schools now have open enrollment for anyone from anywhere. I had thought, until recently, that state law required open enrollment; however, it does not. My wife's hometown of Bexley does not allow any students to transfer in from other districts. One must live in Bexley to go to school there. Wish more schools would do this.
I think your memory may be failing you. #1, Portsmouth did not thrive in football in the 60's (so they never had a top ranked team) as they were in the old GOL and continually got their heads handed to them, basketball was there thing, and in fact PHS had a losing record in the GOL in basketball as well. And PHS has not forfeited an entire season of wins.

Now, the 1950's PHS had a few strong football teams, and a few in the mid 70's after they got away from the GOL, led by OSU player Norm Burrows.
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BillyTheCat
1/4/2016 1:26 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
While doing some last minute Christmas shoppiing uptown, I just talked to with one of the longest tenured coaches in SE Ohio about Lutz. Direct quote - "he can definitely play for OU." Remember too that he's just a junior.
So, let me ask, were you a fan that he was at Athens at all? Didn't he move into Athens from Marietta?
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OhioCatFan
1/4/2016 3:23 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=OhioCatFan] . . . Now, the 1950's PHS had a few strong football teams, and a few in the mid 70's after they got away from the GOL, led by OSU player Norm Burrows.
OK, it may have been in the late '50s rather than the early '60s. Whenever, it did happen, and it was quite a scandal at the time. If I have the time I'll search an online newspaper database I have access to and find the exact date. My point remains that we have vastly different standards today on this sort of thing, and like Alan, I don't think it's an improvement.
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