Sorry for calling you OU Van, OU Country! Seems to me that quite a few of the grad transfers who weren't starters at major programs drop down to a level where they either can start or get a lot of playing time for their final season of eligibility. Then there will be high schoolers who find themselves out of a scholarship for a variety of reasons. For instance, a player who had committed to a school decommits when the school gets a commitment from a higher-rated player who plays the same position. There will also be the James Thompson IV's out there. You investigate them thoroughly, but be ready to pounce!

I believe they're doing all of these things to the max and I'm confident they'll find a player. I just was trying to encourage a poster who stated that what we need doesn't grow on trees for mid major programs. Granted. So you may have to shake a lot of trees to get that player to fall out!

I like it. Shake those trees!

I understand that we don't know anything about these freshmen yet truly but I do have Saul's track record thus far. He has given us back-to-back All-Freshman Team players, including one who was the top freshman at year's end. He has given us Block and Doug Taylor as solid role players. He has given us Jaaron and Kenny as transfers.

That being said, if you watch Kirk on all the great film available, something that stands out is that he plays defense and that he has great handles. Those people comparing him to Culver or saying he's the "next Culver" are mistaken. Look up any old Culver film and you won't find anything truly about Culver as a player. I was shocked when I first saw his jerky shooting motion and his out of control handles. Kirk has plenty of game film showing his handles and his defense. Culver ended up not being a difference maker on defense.

I also think Butler is that kind of player. He and Vander Plas are State Finalists with Butler winning it all. Gareri had a team like Ellet competing with the big boys. I would prefer a grad transfer big who can allow Gareri and Vander Plas time to develop but I am also jacked at the prospect of our new guys all contributing next year.

Some on this board may say I don't say anything negative but that's because I believe this is the year we break through with SaulBall.

Well that's interesting. So we apparently signed Jeremy Fears nephew to be Jaaron Simmons replacement. It all comes full circle.

Hope he's a good get. Boy do we need a big.

Cousin of the Optimist is too long..perhaps I can be The COTO?

I would think given how Jeremy's transfer turned out that he would counsel his nephew to stay put. Teyvion obviously would have sought out Jeremy's opinion and the fact that he is coming here means he probably knows he made a mistake.

I never really blamed him for leaving Ohio. He was obviously great for the program, it just didn't work out for whatever reason.

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I think that is correct. He transferred first to Bradley but never played there.

Joliet West standout guard Teyvion Kirk choose Ohio University

^I believe vs Detroit or Oakland

I'm so excited about any player compared to Jeremy Fears. JF was one of the most talented guys we've had in our program, and maybe one of the biggest might-have-beens as well. Even had that Ohio rap song mentioning him.. Glad to hear he's doing well. And welcome Teyvion!

I believe his most highly publicized flip was at the MAC final after we had just erased the 19 pt deficit vs Buffalo