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Posted: 5/17/2018 12:58 PM
WKU won three games in the NIT. That was a good win. Indiana State and Miami finished with losing records. I respect the fight we showed in the ISU game, but shocker? Come on, man. And I don't give us the same credit for not getting blown out against Clemson. Yeah, we did some things well, but great performance? Nah, my standards are higher.
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Posted: 5/17/2018 1:54 PM
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Western Kentucky, two Miami wins in the regular season, great games in the Diamondhead. Those were all shockers in my book considering our MASH unit.
My goodness Bobcat1998.....your definition of shockers I guess is way different from mine. A win over Clemson...sure...that would have been shocking with last year's crew. Wins at home over Western Kentucky and Miami...plus a road win at Miami don't exactly light the college basketball world on fire. #NotShocking
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Posted: 5/17/2018 6:59 PM
And for the record, I almost never pull for MTSU. They lost 21-4 to Vandy in baseball the other night and gave up 14 runs in one inning... which made me bust out laughing at them. But if they have the balls to make a run at some non-scrub basketball players, yeah, I have no problem admitting it.

It would be nice if Saul would do that more instead of desperation signings in the late period due to desperation signings in the early period. Watch and see where that gets Ohio basketball in the next few years. But the people giving Saul a pass on this trend in recruiting need to man-up in a couple of years and eat the correct amount of crow if things tank. If most of these obscure signees end up All-MAC and the Bobcats make the big dance or even the NIT, I would gladly listen to a bunch of "what for" over it. I hope that happens. It's a long-shot but you never know. The Chaminade Silverswords did beat top-ranked Virgina that time. (36 years ago)
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Posted: 5/18/2018 3:08 PM
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And for the record, I almost never pull for MTSU. They lost 21-4 to Vandy in baseball the other night and gave up 14 runs in one inning... which made me bust out laughing at them. But if they have the balls to make a run at some non-scrub basketball players, yeah, I have no problem admitting it.

It would be nice if Saul would do that more instead of desperation signings in the late period due to desperation signings in the early period. Watch and see where that gets Ohio basketball in the next few years. But the people giving Saul a pass on this trend in recruiting need to man-up in a couple of years and eat the correct amount of crow if things tank. If most of these obscure signees end up All-MAC and the Bobcats make the big dance or even the NIT, I would gladly listen to a bunch of "what for" over it. I hope that happens. It's a long-shot but you never know. The Chaminade Silverswords did beat top-ranked Virgina that time. (36 years ago)
You - asking people to Eat Crow....hahaaaa! That's the funniest thing on here this week. I'm sure you will eat crow if they do well this year, right?
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Posted: 5/18/2018 7:26 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
And for the record, I almost never pull for MTSU. They lost 21-4 to Vandy in baseball the other night and gave up 14 runs in one inning... which made me bust out laughing at them. But if they have the balls to make a run at some non-scrub basketball players, yeah, I have no problem admitting it.

It would be nice if Saul would do that more instead of desperation signings in the late period due to desperation signings in the early period. Watch and see where that gets Ohio basketball in the next few years. But the people giving Saul a pass on this trend in recruiting need to man-up in a couple of years and eat the correct amount of crow if things tank. If most of these obscure signees end up All-MAC and the Bobcats make the big dance or even the NIT, I would gladly listen to a bunch of "what for" over it. I hope that happens. It's a long-shot but you never know. The Chaminade Silverswords did beat top-ranked Virgina that time. (36 years ago)
You - asking people to Eat Crow....hahaaaa! That's the funniest thing on here this week. I'm sure you will eat crow if they do well this year, right?
If this next season's incoming freshmen+the 6ppg juco guy have a big year at ANY future point in time, I will more than gladly eat crow over it. (this would not really include Cowart who may actually contribute). But Springs, Murrell, McMurray, and Preston... if there is a season where the four average more than 10 total ppg between them... then yes, crow for me. Gladly.

But if they tank, transfer to a Nazarene NAIA school, or whatever... won't be me getting the crow for dinner.


(looks like Dozier and Butler haven't found a new place yet... but AJG is headed to Walsh... not sure if it was named after Joe Walsh, guitarist of the James Gang and Eagles, but they did sweep Trevecca Nazarene last season)
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Posted: 5/19/2018 11:25 AM
didn't bob Huggins coach at Walsh?
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Posted: 5/19/2018 3:29 PM
To answer the questions about Walsh

The school's namesake is Bishop Emmett Michael Walsh of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Youngstown

Huggins was coach '80-'83 then to 'Kron
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Posted: 5/19/2018 3:49 PM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
To answer the questions about Walsh

The school's namesake is Bishop Emmett Michael Walsh of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Youngstown

Huggins was coach '80-'83 then to 'Kron
Thank you for the insight. I was trying to figure out my feelings on the Joe Walsh comment. Trying to reconcile whether he was just plain stupid, incredibly disrespectful toward the University or the author of a very poorly played smartass remark.
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Posted: 5/19/2018 8:21 PM
Actually the unnamed option #4 would have been the correct choice - and that is, a chance to bring up the very underrated and forgotten rock group known as "The James Gang" which originated in Cleveland, Ohio.

Most of you are probably too young or not cool enough to have known that. I get the feeling most of the regular posters here listen to Barry Manilow and Celine Dion.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 10:01 AM
longtiimelurker wrote:expand_more
To answer the questions about Walsh

The school's namesake is Bishop Emmett Michael Walsh of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Youngstown

Huggins was coach '80-'83 then to 'Kron
Thank you for the insight. I was trying to figure out my feelings on the Joe Walsh comment. Trying to reconcile whether he was just plain stupid, incredibly disrespectful toward the University or the author of a very poorly played smartass remark.
That's a pretty extreme reaction to a really tame joke.

Greencat, for your edification, Glenn Schwartz still plays in Cleveland with his brother reasonably regularly. Usually at the Beachland or Hoopples. He's truly unhinged and will still go on biblical rants during the shows, but he's also one of the greatest living guitarists in the world... and you can see him with like 50 people for $5 or so. If you get a chance, do it!

More on Glenn: https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/...

#THREADDRIFT
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Posted: 5/20/2018 12:42 PM
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
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Posted: 5/20/2018 5:47 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
Having bought all of the early Deep Purple albums and having used their version of Help as the "sound track" of a 9th grade English project, when you say guitar and Deep Purple you say Ritchie Blackmore.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 7:23 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Actually the unnamed option #4 would have been the correct choice - and that is, a chance to bring up the very underrated and forgotten rock group known as "The James Gang" which originated in Cleveland, Ohio.

Most of you are probably too young or not cool enough to have known that. I get the feeling most of the regular posters here listen to Barry Manilow and Celine Dion.
The best concert I ever saw: Feb., 1970 at the Convo. The Who, with opening act, The James Gang.
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Posted: 5/20/2018 9:14 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
Having bought all of the early Deep Purple albums and having used their version of Help as the "sound track" of a 9th grade English project, when you say guitar and Deep Purple you say Ritchie Blackmore.
I actually have Blackmore ranked pretty high on my new youtube channel and didn't include Bolin due to lack of longevity beyond his control. It would have been easier to do a top 50 instead of a top 25. Blackmore's Dio era Rainbow albums were pretty rockin' I'd say.

See what you think of this list... nobody will agree with all of it. There will always be a "how could you leave out {name here}?" and Joe Walsh, Jerry Garcia, Steve Morse, etc. will always be controversial to leave out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUB-losizzk

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Posted: 5/21/2018 11:49 AM
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. . . Most of you are probably too young or not cool enough to have known that. I get the feeling most of the regular posters here listen to Barry Manilow and Celine Dion.
Not cool then, not cool now, never cared to be cool. I was a nerd before it was cool. In fact, my oldest daughter and her friends once had a vote on whose Dad was the biggest nerd, I won a squeaker over another dad whose research specialty was "slime molds." It was stiff competition. My daughter told me the clincher in my favor were the ham radio antennas on our roof.
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Posted: 5/21/2018 3:20 PM
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Not cool then, not cool now, never cared to be cool. I was a nerd before it was cool. In fact, my oldest daughter and her friends once had a vote on whose Dad was the biggest nerd, I won a squeaker over another dad whose research specialty was "slime molds." It was stiff competition. My daughter told me the clincher in my favor were the ham radio antennas on our roof.
I'll add Greg Brady (aka "Johnny Bravo) as an honorable mention for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp1rhtKYo0
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Posted: 5/21/2018 4:24 PM
Awesome thread drift!! (And I'm being serious)
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Posted: 5/21/2018 6:11 PM
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Awesome thread drift!! (And I'm being serious)
You should follow my new "some of everything" twitter which unlike my old personal twitter (lots of politics, etc) is music-sports-entertainment-science-paranormal-etc ...it's like thread drift personified.

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Posted: 5/21/2018 6:29 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
Having bought all of the early Deep Purple albums and having used their version of Help as the "sound track" of a 9th grade English project, when you say guitar and Deep Purple you say Ritchie Blackmore.
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Posted: 5/21/2018 6:32 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
Having bought all of the early Deep Purple albums and having used their version of Help as the "sound track" of a 9th grade English project, when you say guitar and Deep Purple you say Ritchie Blackmore.
My personal favorite top five....maybe not the best but my favorites:

(1) Jimi Hendrix

(2) Ritchie Blackmore

(3) Alvin Lee

(4) SRV

(5) Randy California.
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Posted: 5/21/2018 7:09 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since the thread is on a rock and roll tangent anyway, I guess it's ok to mention that I still have the two James Gang albums Tommy Bolin played guitar on (as well as the one he did with Deep Purple).

He was only 25 when he died. A real shame.

People thought that was Jeff Beck that played guitar on Billy Cobham's jazz classic "Stratus." It was Tommy Bolin. Jeff Beck now plays it in concert sometimes. A fitting tribute to a musician he influenced.


Some vintage Schwartz P G & E for your enjoyment...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdtLhnL1cXY
Having bought all of the early Deep Purple albums and having used their version of Help as the "sound track" of a 9th grade English project, when you say guitar and Deep Purple you say Ritchie Blackmore.
After graduating in the summer of 1974 went to California and saw Deep Purple and ELO at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, at least I think I did.
Also went to Montreax Switzerland on Lake Geneva where “Smoke on the Water” was written about. The gambling house was indeed burned down. Neat little town and beautiful area.
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