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What they said.

I also have not seen an extension of Frank's contract posted. I suspect both contracts to be extended a week or so after graduation. Students gone, faculty on their "summer" schedule.

Along with the fact that the AD has been away. Remember he is on the selection committee so I suspect he gets the best VIP seats in the house at the tournament games.

Last year, from my view was a complete hall pass. You lose Carter for the year and Simmons trades a potential MPOTY for Season Tickets in Ann Arbor.
He did have a great seat though!

Next year - No hall pass from me. We are at an interesting time in Bobcat Basketball History. Students AWOL, games all available to stream and excitement hasn't been this low in my years as a Cat.

Hopefully Smith keeps the baseball momentum going, Football kicks off with a big splash and a healthy hoops squad gets up back to where we belong.

Basketball practice facilities with a weight room at The Convo would help attract players. We haven't heard anything on it from the new president and likely may not with fiscal concerns on campus for anything recreation related.

The weasels are out for their feeding at the zoo.

For better or for worse, the news from the FOIA by Arkley, will make a few on here happy, but ultimately can only hurt Saul's chances at getting a good HS kid at this point. Not saying that it can't happen, but certainly won't help. Oh well.

This news shouldn't affect getting a grad transfer, who only has one to play anyway. And on the flipside, maybe we need impact player(s) now anyway. We'll know soon.

Forgive me for chiming in again, when both I told myself I wouldn’t and I’m speaking with no experience on the topic other than “common sense,” which I was told doesn’t apply. Yet still…I will say that you can only control, what you can control. SP cannot control whether he has/hasn’t received an extension. What he can control is what he’s built in 4 years and whether that’s attractive to a potential recruit. Don’t ya kind of think that any recruit that gets even a hint of mature advice would know that a coach with this 4 year resume is on the ropes? Whether he’s got 1 year left, or 2, anyone giving advice knowing OHIO would know that if he doesn’t win ASAP, he ain’t going to be your coach for 4 years. Does not having an extension hurt SP and is it easy to blame others and use it as an excuse? Yes, I’m sure it doesn’t help and you can point figures. But the finger has to point back at the bed you made for yourself. Winners are attracted to winning programs, that have a positive vibe both around the program and in the arena. These things have nothing to do with a contract and we currently don’t have those to attract top guys who want to be a part of an upwardly trending program. A couple big years and obviously that changes things. But if you can’t afford to buy someone out and you never want to leave a coach on his last year, how do you ever move on? It is, what it is.

Well, crap. Hope he gets everything taken care of and comes back strong and healthy.

Dartis not being able to play next year would not surprise me. IF the hips are that bad it would give one pause as to whether his career is effectively over. That game at Miami where he literally had to be scraped off the floor was just painful to witness. I have doubts as to the longevity of Carter’s health as well. Freakish foot injuries can be real career Enders as well. With Saul’s luck?

Dartis has to look at his long-term health issues first. Hip injuries can be particularly troublesome because they often aren't easily fixed. When I was a kid I had a hip that kept popping out. After several chiropractic treatments I was told that the next time it popped out it would have to be replaced. It really limited what I could do in sports. Of course, that was in the '60s and things are a lot different these days. But it seems like athletes who get hip injuries never seem to truly shake them.

demand Immediate gratification result in bad results and mistakes! OHIO deserves character, experience, quality! We have that in Saul! Please extend!

Question: what's our graduation rate look like under Saul? Have players stayed out of trouble? If I recall, at least one of those things has been an issue under previous regimes. Those should not be insignificant factors.

Also, losing full seasons from both Campbell and Carter is tough. Throw in the Simmons transfer, and it's hard to expect on-the-floor success given the minutes lost.

Barring a disaster of a season next year, I'd probably lean towards an extension. Especially if the new administration isn't willing to go out and pay at the same level we did when Saul was hired. If the options are extend Saul and keep ponying up for basketball or let Saul go and try to make a hire at a 30% discount I'd prefer Saul.

If nothing else, Saul's shown that he can put together highly seeded teams in the MAC. Two #2 seeds, given the bad luck, is nothing to sneeze at.

I don't think anyone is expecting Springs to come in here and be a world beater from day one, which is why the staff wants to go get another JUCO or Grad Transfer with the last two schollies. He is a project, 100%. There is raw potential, length and height. And the guy can shoot from distance. You don't find that every day for a guy his size. Also, from what I've read he's only been playing basketball since 9th grade. So there's POSSIBLY a lot of untapped skill that nobody has seen. Whether or not the staff can unlock it? Who knows.

Give the guy a redshirt, bulk him up, teach him some post skills along with some pick and pop...see what happens. Once again, I'm gonna believe the staff has better eyes for recruiting than we on this board do. They whiffed big time with Dozier and even they would probably admit that.

And really? Why is Springs your biggest issue? With the news that we just found out about Jordan Dartis, shouldn't that be the BIG problem? I'm more concerned about that than anything else. That makes getting this JUCO or Grad Transfer even more important.