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OhioCatFan
3/23/2018 1:19 AM
Swishero, it went through!
Gonnella, it's swella, fella!

My tribute to Red Rush, the famed Loyola broadcaster of yesteryear.
I know he's looking down and smiling today.

Here's hoping they make it to the Final Four.

It would be neat to get them back on the OHIO schedule. Make it happen, Saul and Jim!

EDIT: To reflect Final Four status.
Last Edited: 3/24/2018 8:34:30 PM by Ted Thompson
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GoCats105
3/23/2018 8:00 AM
Got no time for spreadin' roots
The time has come to be gone
And thoough our health we drank a thousand times
It's time to ramble on
Last Edited: 3/23/2018 8:00:52 AM by GoCats105
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Ted Thompson
3/23/2018 8:59 AM

 

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OU_Country
3/23/2018 10:33 AM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
Got no time for spreadin' roots
The time has come to be gone
And thoough our health we drank a thousand times
It's time to ramble on
I've been thinking of this song since the Ramblers won their first game to start the run. Truly one of my favorite tracks of all time. Since it led me down the YouTube worm hole, here are a few versions of it for fun:


John Paul Jones - bass track only:
https://youtu.be/bMxSE3CDcpA

The original studio version:
https://youtu.be/8oWfHcl94k4

Plant & Page on tour:
https://youtu.be/9-0umJhYonc
Last Edited: 3/23/2018 10:34:14 AM by OU_Country
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Alan Swank
3/23/2018 11:04 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Got no time for spreadin' roots
The time has come to be gone
And thoough our health we drank a thousand times
It's time to ramble on
I've been thinking of this song since the Ramblers won their first game to start the run. Truly one of my favorite tracks of all time. Since it led me down the YouTube worm hole, here are a few versions of it for fun:


John Paul Jones - bass track only:
https://youtu.be/bMxSE3CDcpA

The original studio version:
https://youtu.be/8oWfHcl94k4

Plant & Page on tour:
https://youtu.be/9-0umJhYonc
Was watching this last video. Is that a lyric teleprompter at the 1:24 mark?
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Mike Johnson
3/23/2018 11:49 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Swishero, it went through!
Gonnella, it's swella, fella!

My tribute to Red Rush, the famed Loyola broadcaster of yesteryear.
I know he's looking down and smiling today.

Here's hoping they make it to the Final Four.

It would be neat to get them back on the OHIO schedule. Make it happen, Saul and Jim!
Back in the '60s when Loyola was a power and I was an OHIO student, during one season we had a home and home with the Ramblers. Fun memories.
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bobcatsquared
3/23/2018 12:12 PM
Mike Johnson wrote:expand_more
Back in the '60s when Loyola was a power and I was an OHIO student, during one season we had a home and home with the Ramblers. Fun memories.
I've been thinking lately, what with all the difficulty teams like Ohio are having putting together a strong non-conference schedule, why not play other teams not in the MAC but in the same boat home and home in the same season? We did that recently with Marshall and I always loved the ND-UCLA home-and-home series back in the 1970s/80s. Mike goes back a little further with the Ohio-Loyola example from the 1960s and I'm sure OCF could probably recite similar examples from the first half of that century.

Maybe there's a logical reason why it is not feasible today, but why not consider it?
Last Edited: 3/23/2018 2:54:23 PM by bobcatsquared
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Mike Johnson
3/23/2018 12:46 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Back in the '60s when Loyola was a power and I was an OHIO student, during one season we had a home and home with the Ramblers. Fun memories.
I've been thinking lately, what with all the difficulty teams like Ohio are having putting together a strong non-conference schedule, why not play other teams not in the MAC but in the same boat home and home in the same season? We did that recently with Marshall and I always loved the ND-UCLA home-and-home series back in the 1970s/80s. Mike goes back a little further with the Ohio-Loyola example from the 1960s and I'm sure OCF couldn't probably recite similar examples from the first half of that century.

Maybe there's a logical reason why it is not feasible today, but why not consider it?
During the 1963-64 season when Ohio went to the Elite 8, during the regular season it had a home and home with Louisville which it split - and then beat the Cards a second time in the NCAA tourney.
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Ted Thompson
3/23/2018 5:15 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Back in the '60s when Loyola was a power and I was an OHIO student, during one season we had a home and home with the Ramblers. Fun memories.
I've been thinking lately, what with all the difficulty teams like Ohio are having putting together a strong non-conference schedule, why not play other teams not in the MAC but in the same boat home and home in the same season? We did that recently with Marshall and I always loved the ND-UCLA home-and-home series back in the 1970s/80s. Mike goes back a little further with the Ohio-Loyola example from the 1960s and I'm sure OCF could probably recite similar examples from the first half of that century.

Maybe there's a logical reason why it is not feasible today, but why not consider it?
It still happens (ETSU and NKU had a home-and-home this year). But I think as conferences got larger (and in ND's case they got into a conference) schools wanted a little more variance in their non-con schedule. Ohio could significantly boost its schedule strength with regional, non P5 opponents.

These are all doable Top 100 opponents (with this year's RPI) and you could bus:
Loyola Chicago (15)
St Bonaventure (28)
MTSU (30)
WKU (31) - already scheduled
Murray St. (52)
Marshall (76) - already scheduled
Belmont (82)
Illinois St. (84)
ETSU (94)
SIU (97)
Wright St. (98)
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FearLeon
3/23/2018 10:41 PM
No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all.
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FearLeon
3/24/2018 7:46 PM
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
Last Edited: 3/24/2018 7:47:05 PM by FearLeon
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GoCats105
3/24/2018 7:51 PM
FWIW...and if anyone cares...

I'm pretty sure Loyola offered more than one Ohio recruit.

Carry on.
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cbus cat fan
3/24/2018 8:42 PM
We have talked ad nauseam on this board about the plight of the mid-majors and the MAC. With all the statistics on declining viewership, interest and attendance, Loyola is a great underdog story for the tournament. You have got the 1963 national championship team (some in attendance) who made a statement during the Civil Rights Movement. You have got Sister Jean another story. How many religious affiliated teams have a 98 year old chaplain, let alone a 98 year old nun who was there for the 1963 national championship game!

However, make not mistake about it, this is not what the big boy Power Conferences and many on the Selection Committee want to see. It sends a message that mid-majors belong. It is a small miracle that an #11 seed mid-major team made it this far. I am not holding my breath, but every mid-major commissioner should get on a conference call and demand to be heard by the NCAA and the Selection Committee. Thank you Loyola-Chicago for being a vehicle to make a statement for the mid-majors!
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west side cat
3/24/2018 9:08 PM
Indiana State beat Loyola.
Ohio beat Indiana State.
Ohio to the Final Four.
It does give one hope.
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Jeff McKinney
3/24/2018 9:18 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
FWIW...and if anyone cares...

I'm pretty sure Loyola offered more than one Ohio recruit.

Carry on.
Mason McMurray.
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GoCats105
3/24/2018 11:04 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
FWIW...and if anyone cares...

I'm pretty sure Loyola offered more than one Ohio recruit.

Carry on.
Mason McMurray.
And I believe either TK or Gavin. Maybe both.
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bigtillyoopsupsideurhead
3/24/2018 11:14 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
This is Porter Moser's 7th season at Loyola and it's the first time he's gone to the NCAAs. You would have demanded his firing years ago with nonsensical hashtags.
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Alan Swank
3/24/2018 11:53 PM
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
This is Porter Moser's 7th season at Loyola and it's the first time he's gone to the NCAAs. You would have demanded his firing years ago with nonsensical hashtags.
A read of his bio might lead one to a different conclusion than you have presented.

http://www.loyolaramblers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2&path=mbball
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bornacatfan
3/25/2018 1:12 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
This is Porter Moser's 7th season at Loyola and it's the first time he's gone to the NCAAs. You would have demanded his firing years ago with nonsensical hashtags.
A read of his bio might lead one to a different conclusion than you have presented.

http://www.loyolaramblers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2&path=mbball
Not sure what is being alluded to here in his bio. FOrgive me for being a bit thick but I missed the point you are making.

My favorite tidbit in this Loyola run is the fact that Coach recruits winners. There are 7 State Championship rings in that locker room. Before we lost the content there was a good thread on the Board about the number of rings in the locker room as Groce started recruiting guys who had tasted success and were hungry for more. Right now I think we have one. Under Groce at one time there were 5 0r 6 and several guys who had advanced through several rounds of the tourney. Tasting winning makes you hungry for more. Coming from programs that have a culture of winning prepares guys for the next level as expectations are part of their daily existence. Loyola has 7 guys in there who have tasted winning and made sacrifices for a team/program to get there. I will take those guys over studs with accolades and awards who never won a thing every day of the week. Go Ramblers.
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FearLeon
3/25/2018 9:17 AM
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:expand_more
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
This is Porter Moser's 7th season at Loyola and it's the first time he's gone to the NCAAs. You would have demanded his firing years ago with nonsensical hashtags.
Wrong. You don't get it Tilly. This guy took over a program that hadn't won anything in 3 decades. Massive difference from what has taken place in Athens over last 12 years. Now if he goes the next 6 years at Loyola without making the NCAA Tournament, you don't think the fanbase will be upset and demand more? Of course they will. You can't be that naive. Enjoy the rest of the tourney and #GoSisterJean
Last Edited: 3/25/2018 11:05:11 AM by FearLeon
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FearLeon
3/25/2018 9:32 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
Loyola to the Final Four. No doubt on Loyola message board their fans are saying they got this far only because of "matchups". Has nothing to do with coaching...nothing it all. #NCAABannerBeingHung #ItsWhatPeopleRememberForever
This is Porter Moser's 7th season at Loyola and it's the first time he's gone to the NCAAs. You would have demanded his firing years ago with nonsensical hashtags.
A read of his bio might lead one to a different conclusion than you have presented.

http://www.loyolaramblers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2&path=mbball
Not sure what is being alluded to here in his bio. FOrgive me for being a bit thick but I missed the point you are making.

My favorite tidbit in this Loyola run is the fact that Coach recruits winners. There are 7 State Championship rings in that locker room. Before we lost the content there was a good thread on the Board about the number of rings in the locker room as Groce started recruiting guys who had tasted success and were hungry for more. Right now I think we have one. Under Groce at one time there were 5 0r 6 and several guys who had advanced through several rounds of the tourney. Tasting winning makes you hungry for more. Coming from programs that have a culture of winning prepares guys for the next level as expectations are part of their daily existence. Loyola has 7 guys in there who have tasted winning and made sacrifices for a team/program to get there. I will take those guys over studs with accolades and awards who never won a thing every day of the week. Go Ramblers.
Born...you've always preached the importance of HS state championship winners on roster. Totally, totally agree with all of this ^^^^. They don't have one guy that was a top 200 national recruit.
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rpbobcat
3/25/2018 10:48 AM
How can you not root for a team with a 98 year old nun (Sister Jean) as their Chaplin.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
3/25/2018 11:18 AM
All I know is they have a very favorable matchup with Michigan in the Final Four. The X factor will be if Wagner gets going in this game. I get it, the last few games Wagner has been hit or miss, but the thing is against a team like Loyola, they get to the bucket very easy in comparison to other teams.
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FearLeon
3/25/2018 11:22 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
All I know is they have a very favorable matchup with Michigan in the Final Four. The X factor will be if Wagner gets going in this game. I get it, the last few games Wagner has been hit or miss, but the thing is against a team like Loyola, they get to the bucket very easy in comparison to other teams.
I disagree....Florida State was the better matchup. Seminoles are way less disciplined then UM and coaching is a huge factor here. Leonard Hamilton is nowhere near John Belein. The last 11 seconds of that game really proved it. What the hell was he thinking down 4 with 11 seconds left and not fouling?? Idiotic to say the game is over at that point. Belein now has 7 days to prepare for Loyola? Give me Michigan in this one all the way. Although I'll be rooting for #SisterJean
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