Amen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/05/20/on...

Been asking questions about this the last few days.

I think you are going to see the door closing on this. The BSS that did indeed start in OUr program during the Christian regime (the question I was asking up above) is being looked at across the NCAA as guys are getting done and graduating in less time then transferring with the rule for graduate transfers the way it is currently written . With the glut of guys who are finishing early and moving on the pendulum is swinging back the other way.

The unintended effect of the BSS is that a guy can actually finish in less time. If there is a redshirt for any reason he will be done way ahead of schedule and looking for a bigger ride if he is good enough. I think the situation will correct itself as coaches look at Academic progress/Summer school/redshirts and see what the effect is on their programs.

The BSS was not made for athletes, the NCAA is not looking into this. Please, let's stop. The catalog is on line, if you want to waste your energy, study it. Approximately 1000 student have BSS as a major. The BSS allows students to combine minors and create a tailored degree to certain fields. For instance, Landon cohen created a public relations major. Khari, and Wadly's deal with sports management, they will be going to grad school. Jaaron's is business related and he is going to the number 1 public university in the country. Corey Quallen is interning at Ohio. Nobody is doing anything about anything. The BSS is a brilliant concept. Businesses and institutions have to be flexible and agile. This is the wost consiracy ever. Jim Christian is having a rough enough time on his own, we don't need to put any undue harm on him or anybody else, we need to have understanding and wisdom.

May not have been created for athletics, that does not mean it will not be abused by athletics.

And for the 41st time on this thread, the BSS has a place, but please do not try to compare the 50% rate of male athletes in our 3 main male sports to Harvard or Yale. No one here is buying that comparison.

Abused? Should we compare how many athletes from Ohio get some type of Sports Admin/Training etc type of degree vs the Ivy's? Who cares? They got a 4 yr higher education degree - put in 4 years (at least) of D1/college level time and commitment to sports AND education. Chances are/better than most freshmen enrollees they will be able to benefit themselves and contribute to the betterment of society for others with their experience and degrees- that's a great thing!

Who said it was created for athletes?

Who said the NCAA is looking into this.....I said "it is being looked at across the NCAA".

Coaches who recruit an athlete and see him vanish with a completed degree in 3 years will most assuredly be looking at it. AD's who have to sign off on it will look at it. No one alluded to "The NCAA" looking at it.

IMHO those programs and coaches who are losing athletes will be looking at the course work and progress. My guess is OUr program will take a long hard look at this after losing a key player who fulfilled his requirements. Recruiting is hard enough, teambuilding is hard enough. I do not think setting your program and team up to lose players to graduating early is something that is going to be a good long term plan. I am happy for the kids who use this means to get a great degree as some here have attested to and experienced. That is not how we got there with the last 4 of 6. The pendulum on this will swing. Christian ushered in the era. Go back through the old rosters and skip to the end of each bio to check the majors. GO across the list of Goodman's graduate transfers and check the majors. Just one man's opinion that we will see this right itself not on the NCAA level but at the level of the programs losing the players.

The BSS is a pretty great concept and fills many niches. Still behooves Asministration to ensure that an OU degree has a meaning.... It will be interesting to see how this crop of athletes compares in the coming years in using their degrees to those who have walked before them and are already succeeding in life with career paths.

First off, are we supposed to read that in Iambic Pentameter? ;)

Obviously all degrees are not equal and some degrees are more career specific than others but it still takes a good amount of effort and dedication to complete any degree. And as I said I haven't used my degree one bit in my life and career. It got me in the door in my first job (low playing I might add) but everything since then has been a direct result of connections and getting recommended by people I had worked with in the past. I learned my industry hands-on. I would like to see the ages of the players that the Real Sports was based on and how long they had been in the work force because it takes time. And being older trying to enter the workforce makes it even tougher.

A national disgrace. I agree entirely. This happens way too often. It needs to stop.

What made you think that either rpbobcat or I was referring to OHIO? We were talking about the national scene. I agree that OHIO does a better job in this regard than the national norm. We are not exempt from criticism, but were aren't the focus of it either.

Been meaning to ask this for a while.

Allen's last post provided the perfect segue.

Looking at the time of his post,as well as posts from other people,
doesn't anyone on here sleep ?

I have a Bachelor of Specialized Studies degree. My adviser recommended it to get the best out of two different schools.

For me, I was required to take the same coursework for both schools that were required of other "traditional" students. In fact, in some ways, it was more difficult because you had so many 300-level courses to complete. I *had* to stay an extra two quarters to finish.

I've never had this BSS degree questioned by an employer and the skills I learned from two different schools at OU I firmly believe gave me an advantage.

I don't think it is fair to look at a BSS degree from Ohio University any lesser than any other Bachelor-level degree.