Yeah the prized recruit that did not get a scholarship. I hear that he was a 5'7" 210 pound center, FS wanted to get him on a cybergenics program, he was projected to fill out at 5'9" 250, the kid could have been a great one. FS had the dean and the president in his office, and the president said thank you for the turnout. He had a special studies hat on and everything and the kid full of courage said no and is currently on course to be a doctor and a lawyer.

I don't know about football/basketball but, when I wrestled,my "in season" schedule ,which went from around October 1 to the NCAA Championships in March, was something like this:

This is based on having matches on most Tuesdays and every Saturday.

M-W-F 6:30 am - 8:00 am Lift

Tues/Thurs. (Except Match days) 6:30 -7:30 Conditioning (Usually running)

Tues Morning (match days) Weigh -In (run,jump rope or sit in a whirlpool in a "rubber suit" if you need to make weight)

M-F (Except for match days) 2:00-3:00 PM 3 Mile pre-practice run

M-F (Except match days) 3:30-6:00 Practice

Sat. (See Tuesday)

Sun. "relaxing " run

Morning workouts were truly voluntary and not supervised by the coaching staff.We did it to try and get an "edge" on the mat

Most nights trying to find the energy to study was a challenge,especially when you're dieting to stay close to your weight.

What really created problems were away matches,especially overnight trips.
That meant losing class time,trying to convince professors to let you reschedule exams (before or after)and studying.

I for one could not read on a bus.

Before anyone asks how I can remember this,I kept a log of every workout,practice,match.

Still have them and I still keep a log for all my workouts.

you just need to go ahead cry it out. I questioned the coaching in the past. Now, I am a clown that thinks that the coaches are infallible. I just don't believe the coaches, especially the head coach told a walkon to switch their major if they want to play. That is pretty rational, seeing that we have had athletes start on our football team and move on to the NFL who did not major in specialized studies. Billy the cat, we have had our battles in the past and I see you are still seething with anger, I will not respond in kind by calling you a name, you probably call yourself all types of names. God bless you.

SBH is a well respected poster on this site, and if he says this happened, I'll take his word over yours. Not to mention that I've seen way more inside the walls of college athletics than you will ever see.

I don't know why some are knocking the legitimacy of the B.S.S. program. Like anything in life, you get out of it what you put in to it. I am sure some athletes and others create less-than-rigorous academic programs. Others create programs that may be more rigorous than some standard offered programs. I would consider myself a BSS "success story". Unfortunately, my focus was not in English, so I apologize for any spelling or grammatical errors within this post.

I can tell you that I am doing exactly what I wanted to do with my career when I established my made-up major. I graduated with a focused degree that actually included aspects that potential future employers were looking for in graduates. I know this because I asked several potential employers what they felt new college graduates (within the field) were missing when they were looking to hire them.

Again, I wouldn't look at the degree program so much as I would the specific applications for which some students have found ways to take the "easy way out". Or, at the very least, look also at "success stories" that I know are out there.

I don't know what the online classes are like for undergrads at OU, but the online classes for my Master's degree from Miami were more rigorous than just about any classroom class I took as an undergrad.

Michael Oher still had to complete core courses and get a qualifying test score. During the season, on-line classes are a great option, the team travels at various times throughout the week. When I was at Ohio, I had some classes with the football players, they had study tables and usually met with the professors if they missed. a test. I took a makeup test with Mark Stubbs. I was also an RA in Boyd Hall. I also have a really good friend who played that works for the number 1 school in the country (Solon). I was in touch with a group of former Bobcats that lived in Charlotte. I remember one player who started on the D-line, he was worried about being ineligible because he did not complete enough credit hours during the calendar year. I told him that I completed six hours by taking two online classes where you paid for the class and you got the books and you had to study and take a test when you felt like you were ready. The test was tough. It took me 2 1/2 weeks per course. I had to read and write out flash cards and barely passed. You could only take a certain number of pass/fail courses, I believe they were pass/fail courses. I took two history courses and a lot of it was just based on memory and consolidating different events. Every school has these types of courses including Harvard. During my time in the Army, I also had soldiers that took CLEP test while were deployed. It is fun to speculate, but most of those kids work a lot harder than regular students. Some of them have horrendous injuries and have to rehab during the school year. Imagine having your leg fractured by a water boy who dropped a container. I believe one person mentioned accidentally doing this to a player during spring ball. Papi White is majoring in Sports Journalism, Brad Ellis and Javon Hagan is majoring in sports management, Louis Zervos is majoring in pre-pharmacy, Quinton Maxwell is majoring in electrical engineering, Jalen Fox-Sports Psychology, Dorian Brown is a writes code, Tony Porter-Education, Jared McCray-exercise physiology, Kyle Kuhar-Business, Brendan Cope received the West Point Leadership Award... Was a four-year member of the student senate honor roll, Cleon Aloese-Communications, Jake Pruehs-mechanical/biomedical engineering, AJ Oulette-Sport Management, nutrition and health, Quentin Poling-Education, Evan Crouch-Business, and Chad Moore is majoring in Logistics. As I stated before, FS is not steering players to major in specialized studies. The post gave someone a lot of pop and attention. Many know that I have questioned FS's coaching at times, but to say that he is not looking out for the best interest of players is wrong. We should also hold our school administration in high regard until THEY show us otherwise. No poster should be able to make allegation like this without the claim being properly vetted, Ohio is a journalism school and I believe that a lot of posters work in the journalism field. Go Cat's

I'd also like to see a breakdown of courses taken by students pursuing this degree,separated into athletes/non-athletes.

Basketball is the biggest user of this degree.

In this topic I'd say both, when you have a roster of 13 (scholarship players), and comparing against a roster of 85, you would have to go by percentages as a way of figuring the biggest user of the system.

13 players is how many scholarships that basketball gets....NOTICE that I put the scholarship limits of EACH basketball and football in the post. And the original post (which was NOT made by me, referenced the number of BSS degrees, of which I can not attest too). But my post was clearly in reference to the number of scholarships allowed on a roster.

I started this thread because I received the Athletics Annual Report in the mail. They had a section that listed all the athletes who graduated and what their majors were. In men's basketball six earned degrees and four were specialized studies. I've already pitched it or I would look up some other sports. Did anyone else receive it?

So, men's BB has 4 of 6. Football had 8 of 19 and I'm not sure what BA is (baseball?) has 5 of 19 graduating in specialized studies.