For the board, if Groce goes to Illinois and gets canned down the line, would you take him back?
I see where you're going with this but Christian didn't get fired. Not sure why everyone seems to be giving off that vibe? Just a general observation Mike and not one directed specifically at you. A few other posters have alluded he was "let go", etc.
I'm not ecstatic but do think people are skewing a little too far left of center in the evaluation of this hire.
TCU was absolutely run in to the ground by the previous coach. Their 3 years prior to Christian arriving were:
2005: 6-25 (2-14) MWC
2006: 13-17 (4-12) MWC
2007: 14-16 (6-10) MWC
So he inherited a senior class that went (33-58) overall (.363) and (12-36) in conference (.250). People act like he walked in to a ready made situation and didn't cut it.
As I mentioned last night, his 3rd season was derailed when he dismissed 3 of his top players for disciplinary reasons. They started (9-4) and finished (2-18) (after Christian booted those troublemakers from the roster).
I point that out because it just shouldn't be ignored. In year 3 he had them on their way to what looked to be an above .500 season and likely postseason bid (NIT, CBI, etc.), something that certainly is NOT the norm around TCU. I give him credit for dismissing rule breakers, even though it was obviously going to have rather catastrophic consequences for that 2011 team. There are a lot of coaches who would have not done the same, feeling some outside pressure to win.
I'm not here championing him as the savior but people need to gather some facts before making definitive posts. It's a solid hire, one that has a high probability of success. The amount of success can certainly be argued (i.e. what people now consider "success") but I find it hard to believe he's not going to win with Ohio. So if you want to call it a "safe" hire that is certainly justified but lets dial back the "he got let go" posts….or things of a similar nature.
Just my two cents...
Last Edited: 4/2/2012 11:37:07 AM by CATman