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GoCats105
4/15/2020 5:52 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Agreed. We don't know enough about Towns or Granger to give them a nod at a starting role just yet.
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4/15/2020 7:29 PM
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Preston, Roderick, Vander Plas, Miguel, and either McDay or Towns...maybe Granger based on match-up.
I'd say there is zero chance that McDay isn't a starter next year.
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FearLeon
4/15/2020 8:37 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
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shabamon
4/15/2020 8:57 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
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4/15/2020 8:59 PM
GoCats105 wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Agreed. We don't know enough about Towns or Granger to give them a nod at a starting role just yet.
After Rod and McDay made immediate impacts and Brown was playing solidly I assume Boals is getting 3 regulars out of newbies. Based on video..and just reading etc I say Miguel starts, Towns off bench with Brown in 1st rotation and White on wing playing that Dartis shooter spot. If Granger can be poor mans BVP he could spell him. Foster intrigues me. Dude played pretty well in beginning then plateaud.
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WxM
4/15/2020 10:58 PM
If Boals didn't feel Miguel would come in and start, he screwed up giving him the scholarship. There aren't any more to go around and an impact big man is a must. I get that you don't just give jobs away but it's evident that you can't bank on a valid replacement for Ogbonda as already being on the roster.
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UpSan Bobcat
4/16/2020 9:28 AM
WxM wrote:expand_more
If Boals didn't feel Miguel would come in and start, he screwed up giving him the scholarship. There aren't any more to go around and an impact big man is a must. I get that you don't just give jobs away but it's evident that you can't bank on a valid replacement for Ogbonda as already being on the roster.
I would think Rifen is the favorite for the spot, but it certainly will be an open competition. He had a lot of offers but they were all mid-majors. The fact he comes in as a junior, I think more than anything, will give him an edge over the other guys.
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FearLeon
4/16/2020 10:27 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
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Cats5
4/16/2020 10:36 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
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4/16/2020 10:45 AM
Cats5 wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
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shabamon
4/16/2020 11:04 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
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4/16/2020 12:22 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
Last Edited: 4/16/2020 12:40:35 PM by FearLeon
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Cats5
4/16/2020 12:48 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
I preferred McMurray because I just don’t see him getting time. We could’ve played Springs at the 4 since he’s fast and can shoot. But hey, everyone does what they think is best for them.
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Bobcat1998
4/16/2020 1:30 PM
I felt like Mason did a nice job at the beginning of the season playing hard and physical. He is the prototypical 12th or 13th man. He has energy and seems to love our team and school. Springs will be great at an SC Upstate or Jackson State or Elon. Murrell is servicable. I know his 3s sucked but he gave us some solid mins and seems like a good dude. Now we can have his scholly after next year with Wilson coming in and get a point guard/3 man.
Last Edited: 4/16/2020 1:31:22 PM by Bobcat1998
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Ted Thompson
4/16/2020 1:32 PM
Cats5 wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
I preferred McMurray because I just don’t see him getting time. We could’ve played Springs at the 4 since he’s fast and can shoot. But hey, everyone does what they think is best for them.
Is Springs fast? To me, the biggest impediment to his playing time was lack of lateral quickness and therefore the inability to guard ball screens.
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4/16/2020 2:25 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Miguel was second team all conference in arguably the strongest JUCO league in the country, definitely in the top 3.

Also, he was putting up really good numbers for a few games in a row before he suffered a season-ending injury.

I would say he has a legit chance to start.
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berniebobcat
4/16/2020 2:58 PM
If Murrell leaves, and I think that is a good possibility, we would have no seniors on the active roster next year. There is definitely room for a graduate transfer. It would be reassuring if we got another true big man to insure that an injury wouldn't put us back in the same box we have experienced in recent years.
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4/16/2020 3:00 PM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
I preferred McMurray because I just don’t see him getting time. We could’ve played Springs at the 4 since he’s fast and can shoot. But hey, everyone does what they think is best for them.
Is Springs fast? To me, the biggest impediment to his playing time was lack of lateral quickness and therefore the inability to guard ball screens.
He was quick when getting up and down the floor. That’s what I was meaning.
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4/16/2020 3:32 PM
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If Murrell leaves, and I think that is a good possibility, we would have no seniors on the active roster next year. There is definitely room for a graduate transfer. It would be reassuring if we got another true big man to insure that an injury wouldn't put us back in the same box we have experienced in recent years.
That would be interesting....do you go after a grad transfer or hold scholly for next year? As of right now, no doubt in my mind...it's Miguel starting and Foster spelling him for rest. We need Foster to advance big time from Freshman to Sophomore year under this scenario.
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4/16/2020 3:52 PM
That rule scares me. It seems like it might drastically increase the numbers of outstanding mid-major players like Preston and VanderPlas who transfer. It's bad enough to always fear that any successful coach at Ohio will be lured to greener pa$ture$, but increasing that concern about the same thing happening with any outstanding Bobcat players would be a difficult thing.
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4/16/2020 4:39 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
Agree with shab's thoughts. Springs has upside if someone can tap into that. His length and shooting ability is not something you find every day.

I hope someone can hone his skills. Good luck to the young man.
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bornacatfan
4/16/2020 5:31 PM
Ball State has been adding pieces with Reggie Jones(Marion IN) coming home from Western Michigan and Tulsa and Jalen Windham coming back from SIU. They are covering some holes with upgrades and should be better. Recruiting is sure screwy this year. Who knows who will be eligible?

Can not imagine those players that had trouble keeping grades with tutors, extra attention from coaches and all the help afforded an athlete at this level that still do poorly with school getting any better at it sitting at home in front of a computer screen. If they could barely do it with all the oversight, lord knows how they will do it on their own.
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4/16/2020 5:40 PM
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Can not imagine those players that had trouble keeping grades with tutors, extra attention from coaches and all the help afforded an athlete at this level that still do poorly with school getting any better at it sitting at home in front of a computer screen. If they could barely do it with all the oversight, lord knows how they will do it on their own.
Don't disagree, Borna. However, my daughter was given the option of taking her online classes this semester in the Ohio University School of Nursing pass/fail (she chose not to). Perhaps other colleges are also providing this option.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
4/16/2020 5:54 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
Disagree. I still think a healthy - all year - connor murrell makes minutes for himself next year. Get his game shot confidence back and he could have a breakthrough senior year. Don't forget both he and foster battled leg injuries throughout the season.
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FearLeon
4/16/2020 9:28 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I think Preston, McDay, Roderick, and BVP are locks. Boals' system uses a center, which BVP is not. So we're choosing between Miguel, Foster, and Springs. I don't see any true freshmen walking in here and starting, and I also don't think a guy averaging 8 and 4 in JUCO is clearly better than the two already on our roster. It's going to be an adjustment for Miguel, but he will be an option.
Wait a minute...you don’t think Miguel is clearly better than Foster and Springs? Why do you think Boals recruited him...for bench strength? I’d be stunned if Miguel isn’t starting day one.
I don't. Rifen Miguel will probably be the most physical player on next year's roster, but people sometimes wrongly think JUCO transfers are plug and play, when in reality, the MAC will be a step up for him. I know he battled injury this year which hurt his averages, but he's not Maurice Ndour.

Antonio Cowart had great JUCO stats but didn't have the same impact with us. Plus most players make their biggest jumps in skill between their freshman and sophomore years, so I expect Foster and Springs to be improved. I think Miguel will be in the mix and could start, but clearly better? No.
If Miguel doesn't come in and start and play at least 25 minutes per game then this will go down as a swing and miss for Boals. Please tell me how Springs is going to compete for a spot? The guy spent a total of 4 seconds in the paint this past season. His game is 27 feet away from the basket and chucking 3's. Foster will have to take 10 giant steps forward for him to start in the middle. With Wilson not eligible, this is Miguel's spot..I don't see how anyone could look at this signing any differently.
Springs is in the portal.
And there you have it......
Tough go of it for Springs. I imagine Boals probably told him at some point that they were going to try to recruit more bigs and he'd be the odd man out if they signed the guys they wanted. Everyone was probably waiting for the ink to dry on the signings before Springs put his name in the portal.

If anyone was going to transfer, I would have picked Murrell and McMurray before Springs. Murrell because he's graduated and I think Springs has a higher ceiling than McMurray, which I've said all year long.

I still think there's a competition between Foster and Miguel. I too thought Foster showed promise early on but tailed off towards the end of the season. Under normal circumstances, I'd expect a big jump in his ability and fitness in the offseason, but this quarantine really does him a disservice as he won't have the structure of an offseason weight and conditioning program.
No disrespect to Murrell and McMurray, but there aren’t any minutes for these guys at all moving forward in this program. I’m sure Mason can get some minutes at a D2/D3/NAIA school. Boals is getting the D-one recruits he needs to take this program to another level. The days of signing recruits who are more D2 caliber are over.
Disagree. I still think a healthy - all year - connor murrell makes minutes for himself next year. Get his game shot confidence back and he could have a breakthrough senior year. Don't forget both he and foster battled leg injuries throughout the season.
I hear ya...but Murrell went oh-for-the-season from 3 point land. That is nearly impossible to do. I don't think he was fully recovered, but his confidence was shaken and his shot selection at times nearly broke Boals right hand after he slammed it multiple times into the scorers table after a missed Murrell three. If he comes back, I don't see him getting significant PT with the talent coming in.
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