"I ask you, how was the administration blind to seeing he was a good coach? She hired him, extended him, etc. What else do you want?"
Burner- you don't know the entire story. Do your homework like OCF. Coach Albin was a proven winner at the NW Oklahoma State earlier in his career and won a national title at the NAIA level. Look at the contract the AD gave Coach Albin when he was hired after Coach Solich retired. The initial contract in July of 2021 had stipulations that the AD would "revisit the direction of the program" or his contract after two seasons. Did the new coach have a stipulation like that in his contract? Did the baseball coach have a stipulation like the one I mentioned above in the contract. The current AD has hired several head coaches at Ohio, but did those hires have a stipulation like that in the contract? This administration was paying Albin the sixth highest salary in the conference and 7th highest if you include new member UMASS. Do you actually think this football program was the 6th/7th best in the conference? Many of you would be protesting on Court Street if Boals got that type of treatment. Boals track record isn't nearly as good, yet he was the top paid coach in the conference. No football coach had a better league record the last four seasons. Name the last time Ohio won ten games for three consecutive seasons. If Roderick McDavis or Duane Nellis was still president, this blunder wouldn't have happened.
Duane Nellis? My god.
It sounds like you don't know the full story, or you're just being ignorant.
Frank, while he had health problems, waited until July to force the AD to hire Tim because there is no way a full search could have been done so close to fall camp. The contract he was given was essentially an interim contract, without the interim tag to help Albin with recruiting. After his abysmal first season, he earned a new contract during that look-in (MAC title game, 10 wins, etc.).
The baseball coach, Craig Moore, was named interim coach for a season when Rob Smith retired in January, also right before the season. After the season, a full search was done and Moore got the job. So yes, the baseball coach had a "stipulation" in his contract as well.
When it comes to salary, yes, he was middle of the pack. Why would he have been higher? Because he won an NAIA title in 1999? Come on. He lost to NIU and Miami at home in 2023 and didn't make the title game. He earned a higher salary after the 2024 season. What you refuse to understand is that Albin played his hand early. He left, before the season was over. The extension and raise was surely coming. But he couldn't wait to leave.
Burner- you are evidently working with the current administration and related to the AD. And if Frank did wait until two weeks to retire before the season began in 2021, then that was the right move. Coach Solich knew what what he was doing. Coach Albin accomplished more in four seasons than any other coach in Ohio history the last 50 seasons. I have given you the FACTS that you obviously ignore. And after that "abysmal season" that you talked about, the football program won ten games for two consecutive years and got 11 wins in 2024. If this were mens hoops, baseball or womens hoops they would have been rewarded. I am not calling you ignorant, but you continue to berate ME. The fact that Albin was paid middle of pack and Boals was the highest paid coach in the conference should give you a wake up call, but you obviously are not able to see that. The baseball team has been WAY below .500 the last three years. If that would have been Albin, he would be dismissed. Quit making excuses for this administration. Also, the womens hoops coach has been worse than pathetic, but hey it is ok to secretly renew that coach. This AD should not be complimented for these huge mistakes. Do you actually think Nellis or McDavis would have allowed this mess? Do you think the other new coaches were given an "interim/contract tag?" Was the new football or track coach a few years ago she hired given this type of contract? This AD is tight with the President and this is the reason these blunders were made. And to your response of why would have Albins salary been higher? You just answered that question. She paid Boals the top paid salary in the conference for finishing 3rd/5th seed yearly. I'm guessing you enjoy watching 5 seeds yearly? Albin obviously was way better than that, but she refused to reward him. Keep supporting these huge blunders from Ohio's administration.
If someone has a different opinion than you they must be related to the AD in some capacity, right? You’re wrong, just an alum and fan who is frustrated by the way you speak about others in defense of one person, a person who left on his own accord.
Frank did retire two weeks before the season. That isn’t up for discussion.
Tim was already rewarded in 2023 with his first contract extension. His salary went from 535000 to 700000 per footballscoop. That contract had an auto extension of one year after eight wins, so he would have been under contract through the 27-28 season when he left for UNCC. He was, once again, in line to receive pay bump and another extension after winning he MAC title, but he agreed to take the UNCC job before that could come to fruition. I would (and have) argue that his agent appeared to handle the situation terribly. By the way, Tim earned that first extension and earned the second extension! We should all be grateful for what Tim did as coach here. But to say he wasn’t rewarded for success is just wrong.
Yes, I agree with you that if Tim performed as bad as the baseball coach over the last three years, he would have been let go. However, football is a different animal. It’s high-profile. There’s an investment in football that there isn’t in baseball. The baseball coach, just like track, softball, etc will always have a longer leash than the football coach. This has nothing to do with the AD or president, it’s just the reality of the financial situation at Ohio. OU is not in the position to buyout “Olympic” sport coaches.
Your infatuation on the secret contract is strange. How is anything that is public record a secret? There’s just not interest in the women’s program like that of football. I’m less in tune with the women’s program but I believe SBH says it well when it comes to that program.
I’m not sure how the presidents come into play here, as I thought your issue was with the AD. Frankly I don’t have the confidence Nellis would handle anything correctly. His tenure was a disaster. McDavis was a good president, and I do think he would support not just handing the coaching job of the most high profile coach over to a coordinator.