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Andrew Ruck
1/18/2019 12:59 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ? [/QUOTE]My point was obviously that I relentlessly support my Bobcats after you called that into question. No, I don't want any recognition.

Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe
Reading thru this thread, I only see one person being arrogant, not to mention only one person making personal attacks.

oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol
Literally no one even came close to suggesting this. Attacking people on this with no basis and only speculation born out of your own insecurities looks really poorly on you.

[QUOTE=Gman]Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol
This is one of the oddest things I can remember reading here. Posting stats publicly available on 100 different websites is apparently the same as doing a private investigation and digging up any dirt possible and publishing it. Go ahead though, I'd love to hear the findings.
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 1:00:14 PM by Andrew Ruck
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BillyTheCat
1/18/2019 1:48 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
You guys have NEVER and I mean NEVER seen me BASH a BOBCAT player on this board, I support all Bobcat Players men & woman its coaches I have come down on.



I want you all to read up to the last few post lol, see how dumb you all are, not one word said about TK, see my plan worked, you all took the attention off of TK and turned it on me and you guys are suppose to be smart. The topic said TK-O-Meter not Gman stole ya lunch money.



OUVAN - when you make a post about a player TK-O-Meter that is attacking a player on his struggles of playing out of position.
Well since you brought it up, I'll state that for the team to be successful TK is going to need to cut down on the TO to Assist ratio, and distribute the ball better. Now are you happy?
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Gman
1/18/2019 1:58 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ?
My point was obviously that I relentlessly support my Bobcats after you called that into question. No, I don't want any recognition.

Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe
Reading thru this thread, I only see one person being arrogant, not to mention only one person making personal attacks.

oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol
Literally no one even came close to suggesting this. Attacking people on this with no basis and only speculation born out of your own insecurities looks really poorly on you.

Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol
This is one of the oddest things I can remember reading here. Posting stats publicly available on 100 different websites is apparently the same as doing a private investigation and digging up any dirt possible and publishing it. Go ahead though, I'd love to hear the findings.
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure, I stand for what I believe in and don't back down, To single out a college athlete who is struggling and ONE YOU are suppose to support is just wrong, They should change the name to AttackBobcats.com
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 2:04:22 PM by Gman
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BillyTheCat
1/18/2019 2:21 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ?
My point was obviously that I relentlessly support my Bobcats after you called that into question. No, I don't want any recognition.

Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe
Reading thru this thread, I only see one person being arrogant, not to mention only one person making personal attacks.

oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol
Literally no one even came close to suggesting this. Attacking people on this with no basis and only speculation born out of your own insecurities looks really poorly on you.

Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol
This is one of the oddest things I can remember reading here. Posting stats publicly available on 100 different websites is apparently the same as doing a private investigation and digging up any dirt possible and publishing it. Go ahead though, I'd love to hear the findings.
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure, I stand for what I believe in and don't back down, To single out a college athlete who is struggling and ONE YOU are suppose to support is just wrong, They should change the name to AttackBobcats.com
But in a past post it was ok for you to call a local kid who went to Akron dumb and claim that he was part of academic fraud to even become eligible, while offering zero proof. That is a slanderous allegation based on zero reportable facts, but that’s perfectly fine? Hypocrite.
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Andrew Ruck
1/18/2019 2:26 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure
Sorry but bringing up the issue of the value of college education unprompted multiple times reeks of insecurity to me. So does posting your life resume as a defense. I don't really care if you're the CEO of Microsoft or making min wage at McDonalds, it really doesn't matter here and I am not sure how or why we've even come to this in the discussion.
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 2:27:31 PM by Andrew Ruck
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OU_Country
1/18/2019 2:46 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
On one hand I understand your sensitivity to this, but on the other hand I make no apologies. As others have pointed out, no personal attacks were dished out. Character, commitment and effort were not questioned. Statistics and his use by his coach were discussed. Plenty of compliments in other aspects of his game were paid. It wasn't a general broad sweeping judgment, but a pointed criticism of a specific aspect backed up by data.

Publicly discussing minors is off limits, but once you become a legal adult and go get a free college education playing sports, it is unreasonable to not expect your performance to be discussed, positively and negatively. I think most scholarship athletes would agree with me. I am aware TK and family could read this and I do not hide from anything I have said here. I'd hope most recruits would be excited to see a fan base passionate enough to follow and discuss things this closely without getting nasty.

I keep a general positive outlook and relentlessly support the team, I think my 20 year history with this online community proves that. I left work an hour early, drove 90 minute (120 with traffic) and watched one of the worst games I've ever seen...and yet will do the exact same thing next Tuesday, in the interim discussing some disappointing results. I think any athlete would take that fan over someone who just throws their hands up and walks away completely.
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Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ?


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Since the work day got slow, I got to read through more of this, and I saw something about cookies, so.....

If you're bringing cookies for those of us driving from out of town to the games, I don't think we're gonna complain. I'd trade a Convo bought beer for a few cookies allll game. ;)
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Gman
1/18/2019 2:50 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ?
My point was obviously that I relentlessly support my Bobcats after you called that into question. No, I don't want any recognition.

Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe
Reading thru this thread, I only see one person being arrogant, not to mention only one person making personal attacks.

oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol
Literally no one even came close to suggesting this. Attacking people on this with no basis and only speculation born out of your own insecurities looks really poorly on you.

Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol
This is one of the oddest things I can remember reading here. Posting stats publicly available on 100 different websites is apparently the same as doing a private investigation and digging up any dirt possible and publishing it. Go ahead though, I'd love to hear the findings.
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure, I stand for what I believe in and don't back down, To single out a college athlete who is struggling and ONE YOU are suppose to support is just wrong, They should change the name to AttackBobcats.com
But in a past post it was ok for you to call a local kid who went to Akron dumb and claim that he was part of academic fraud to even become eligible, while offering zero proof. That is a slanderous allegation based on zero reportable facts, but that’s perfectly fine? Hypocrite.
Show the PROOF where I called him DUMB come on show it, also show where I bashed ANY Bobcat player, Put up or shut up BillyBoy
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 3:10:25 PM by Gman
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Gman
1/18/2019 2:52 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
On one hand I understand your sensitivity to this, but on the other hand I make no apologies. As others have pointed out, no personal attacks were dished out. Character, commitment and effort were not questioned. Statistics and his use by his coach were discussed. Plenty of compliments in other aspects of his game were paid. It wasn't a general broad sweeping judgment, but a pointed criticism of a specific aspect backed up by data.

Publicly discussing minors is off limits, but once you become a legal adult and go get a free college education playing sports, it is unreasonable to not expect your performance to be discussed, positively and negatively. I think most scholarship athletes would agree with me. I am aware TK and family could read this and I do not hide from anything I have said here. I'd hope most recruits would be excited to see a fan base passionate enough to follow and discuss things this closely without getting nasty.

I keep a general positive outlook and relentlessly support the team, I think my 20 year history with this online community proves that. I left work an hour early, drove 90 minute (120 with traffic) and watched one of the worst games I've ever seen...and yet will do the exact same thing next Tuesday, in the interim discussing some disappointing results. I think any athlete would take that fan over someone who just throws their hands up and walks away completely.
.........


Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ?


..........
Since the work day got slow, I got to read through more of this, and I saw something about cookies, so.....

If you're bringing cookies for those of us driving from out of town to the games, I don't think we're gonna complain. I'd trade a Convo bought beer for a few cookies allll game. ;)
Chocolate Chip in the Rohr Room
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FearLeon
1/18/2019 3:50 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure
Sorry but bringing up the issue of the value of college education unprompted multiple times reeks of insecurity to me. So does posting your life resume as a defense. I don't really care if you're the CEO of Microsoft or making min wage at McDonalds, it really doesn't matter here and I am not sure how or why we've even come to this in the discussion.
Just when I think this thread can't get any better...it does at every twist and turn. #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
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Buckeye to Bobcat
1/18/2019 3:54 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
On one hand I understand your sensitivity to this, but on the other hand I make no apologies. As others have pointed out, no personal attacks were dished out. Character, commitment and effort were not questioned. Statistics and his use by his coach were discussed. Plenty of compliments in other aspects of his game were paid. It wasn't a general broad sweeping judgment, but a pointed criticism of a specific aspect backed up by data.

Publicly discussing minors is off limits, but once you become a legal adult and go get a free college education playing sports, it is unreasonable to not expect your performance to be discussed, positively and negatively. I think most scholarship athletes would agree with me. I am aware TK and family could read this and I do not hide from anything I have said here. I'd hope most recruits would be excited to see a fan base passionate enough to follow and discuss things this closely without getting nasty.

I keep a general positive outlook and relentlessly support the team, I think my 20 year history with this online community proves that. I left work an hour early, drove 90 minute (120 with traffic) and watched one of the worst games I've ever seen...and yet will do the exact same thing next Tuesday, in the interim discussing some disappointing results. I think any athlete would take that fan over someone who just throws their hands up and walks away completely.
.........


Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ?


..........
Since the work day got slow, I got to read through more of this, and I saw something about cookies, so.....

If you're bringing cookies for those of us driving from out of town to the games, I don't think we're gonna complain. I'd trade a Convo bought beer for a few cookies allll game. ;)
The Convo Season Ticket Holder Cookie baking contest would be absurd. I can tell you that from personal experience
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Gman
1/18/2019 4:46 PM
Isn't it funny how one person can flip a thread and take the heat off of someone ? All the bullshit you all have thrown my way, I enjoy every bit of it, I actually lol at some of them. get use to it, I'm not going anywhere, you all have your beliefs and I have mine. I stand up for what I believe in and will not back down from no one. I've backed the Bobcats for over 40 yrs and will continue to do so till the day I die.

I'm like Sushi either ya like me or ya don't and I could give a rats ass if ya like me or not. That's how I roll.
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GraffZ06
1/18/2019 7:40 PM
Those responsible for sacking the trolls in this thread who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

Wi n0t trei a h0liday in Sweden thi yer?
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FearLeon
1/18/2019 9:01 PM
It’s getting better sushi man.
3-13 from field against Toledo.
Point guard production is on the #Uptick

But I hope you did not watch tonight because CBS spent 60 seconds on a TK graphic breaking down how he is second in the country in most turnovers committed. How dare they do that to a “kid”!! #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 9:08:24 PM by FearLeon
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OU_Country
1/18/2019 9:39 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
It’s getting better sushi man.
3-13 from field against Toledo.
Point guard production is on the #Uptick

But I hope you did not watch tonight because CBS spent 60 seconds on a TK graphic breaking down how he is second in the country in most turnovers committed. How dare they do that to a “kid”!! #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
Not only that, but he was visibly outclassed by the opponents he was guarding and who were guarding him.

The bottom line problem I see with this team in the last couple weeks is that the guards simply aren't good enough, and TK is the best of them.
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allen
1/18/2019 9:48 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
It’s getting better sushi man.
3-13 from field against Toledo.
Point guard production is on the #Uptick

But I hope you did not watch tonight because CBS spent 60 seconds on a TK graphic breaking down how he is second in the country in most turnovers committed. How dare they do that to a “kid”!! #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
Not only that, but he was visibly outclassed by the opponents he was guarding and who were guarding him.

The bottom line problem I see with this team in the last couple weeks is that the guards simply aren't good enough, and TK is the best of them.
I kind of agree, Cowart can defend, but he is inconsistent offensively. TK is scrappy and competitive, but lacks a great handle and good decision making. Gollon is streaky but is a liability on defense. Preston is just ok at everything and most teams that we face will have a dominant guard or two. I think JC needs to be more aggressive. He is our best player and he disappears at time.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
1/18/2019 10:06 PM
GraffZ06 wrote:expand_more
Those responsible for sacking the trolls in this thread who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

Wi n0t trei a h0liday in Sweden thi yer?
Will moose take over during production?
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Gman
1/18/2019 10:26 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
It’s getting better sushi man.
3-13 from field against Toledo.
Point guard production is on the #Uptick

But I hope you did not watch tonight because CBS spent 60 seconds on a TK graphic breaking down how he is second in the country in most turnovers committed. How dare they do that to a “kid”!! #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
FearLena was to busy watching Caleb Terry play tonight, son of former Bobcat Jason Terry.
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Kevin Finnegan
1/18/2019 11:03 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure, I stand for what I believe in and don't back down, To single out a college athlete who is struggling and ONE YOU are suppose to support is just wrong, They should change the name to AttackBobcats.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE8j5ay_UU
Last Edited: 1/18/2019 11:03:25 PM by Kevin Finnegan
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Jerry86
1/18/2019 11:13 PM
Maddog13 wrote:expand_more
Are you sure about that Groverball? I have seen better athletes on the gridiron this year than the floor of the Convo.
Positive. Athletes are one thing, but your comment "they would totally school these players on the basketball court and without even having to practice for it" is just plain ignorant. Too many on here have their panties all twisted after Saturday and are losing any semblance of rationality.
Twisted panties or not, what proof do you have that this is an "ignorant" statement? As of now, this team is not performing well at all. Your stance of superiority does not turn wishes into reality, Sir.

Do you smoke crack? FB guys better on the court than current BBall roster? Smoke some more ..
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Jerry86
1/18/2019 11:47 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Are you sure about that Groverball? I have seen better athletes on the gridiron this year than the floor of the Convo.

Too many on here have their panties all twisted after Saturday and are losing any semblance of rationality.
Ummm....this goes well beyond Saturday. Try five years of nothing.
Yeahhhhhh, five years of nothing seems to be a little inaccurate to me. Unless you're the "NCAA Tourney is all that matters type"...
No, Leon like coaches who have continual player perosnnel issues, both at Illinois and now Akron so long as they get to NCAA.
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Jerry86
1/18/2019 11:54 PM
Gman wrote:expand_more
On one hand I understand your sensitivity to this, but on the other hand I make no apologies. As others have pointed out, no personal attacks were dished out. Character, commitment and effort were not questioned. Statistics and his use by his coach were discussed. Plenty of compliments in other aspects of his game were paid. It wasn't a general broad sweeping judgment, but a pointed criticism of a specific aspect backed up by data.

Publicly discussing minors is off limits, but once you become a legal adult and go get a free college education playing sports, it is unreasonable to not expect your performance to be discussed, positively and negatively. I think most scholarship athletes would agree with me. I am aware TK and family could read this and I do not hide from anything I have said here. I'd hope most recruits would be excited to see a fan base passionate enough to follow and discuss things this closely without getting nasty.

I keep a general positive outlook and relentlessly support the team, I think my 20 year history with this online community proves that. I left work an hour early, drove 90 minute (120 with traffic) and watched one of the worst games I've ever seen...and yet will do the exact same thing next Tuesday, in the interim discussing some disappointing results. I think any athlete would take that fan over someone who just throws their hands up and walks away completely.


Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ? Oh wait I'll get Lou to announce you drove 120 mile at the next game, Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe, If you think embarrassing a student athlete on scholarship especially one you are suppose to support to the world is ok, then you need a life buddy. posting facts or no facts. these are kids still, It sends out a bad message, oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol


I'm gonna tell you all this right now and take NOTES !!! Pick on me, make fun of me I don't give a DAMN !! But by god, no one and I mean no one is gonna trash or bash any Ohio Bobcat Student Athlete, Walk-On or on Scholarship that plays for Ohio Bobcats in any sport Men's or Woman, We are suppose to SUPPORT them 100% through GOOD & BAD not make a mockery of them on a message board.


Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol

Based on your rants and out of control behavior let me know what stock you own and I'll short it and it will probably go to zero and make me a ton of $$.
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GraffZ06
1/19/2019 12:03 AM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Those responsible for sacking the trolls in this thread who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

Wi n0t trei a h0liday in Sweden thi yer?
Will moose take over during production?
A Møøse once bit my sister ...

No realli!
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BillyTheCat
1/19/2019 6:41 AM
Gman wrote:expand_more
Want a cookie for driving and coming to the games ? that's what fans do, what makes you so special just because you attended a game ?
My point was obviously that I relentlessly support my Bobcats after you called that into question. No, I don't want any recognition.

Your so damn arrogant and got your head jammed up your ass so far you can't breathe
Reading thru this thread, I only see one person being arrogant, not to mention only one person making personal attacks.

oh but wait, you have a college edumacation lol that makes you smarter than everyone else. how was my grammer lol
Literally no one even came close to suggesting this. Attacking people on this with no basis and only speculation born out of your own insecurities looks really poorly on you.

Hmmmm I own a lot of stock in an investigation company, wonder what they could dig up on some of you all and let some of the players post things in BobcatAttack about you, after all its just facts right ? lol
This is one of the oddest things I can remember reading here. Posting stats publicly available on 100 different websites is apparently the same as doing a private investigation and digging up any dirt possible and publishing it. Go ahead though, I'd love to hear the findings.
Insecure ? I'm just cut from a different cloth, let's see, I'm 57, retired, No College Edumacation, started a business from scratch and sold it for a lot of money & got another business in the works, Just because I have different beliefs in things here, doesn't make me insecure, I stand for what I believe in and don't back down, To single out a college athlete who is struggling and ONE YOU are suppose to support is just wrong, They should change the name to AttackBobcats.com
But in a past post it was ok for you to call a local kid who went to Akron dumb and claim that he was part of academic fraud to even become eligible, while offering zero proof. That is a slanderous allegation based on zero reportable facts, but that’s perfectly fine? Hypocrite.
Show the PROOF where I called him DUMB come on show it, also show where I bashed ANY Bobcat player, Put up or shut up BillyBoy
Oh, I paraphrased, But, you are twisting, manipulating and ignoring! I stated a local player who went to Akron, not a Bobcat player. Maybe a better education and you’d be able to practice better reading comprehension
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BillyTheCat
1/19/2019 6:45 AM
Here is Gman referring to Hitchens not being able to pass his SAT, interesting sidenot, GMan doesn’t even know how the SAT is scored, his statement is priceless for the conversation.

But again, GMan finds it ok to be critical of others, without the use of ANY facts by the way (zero documentation to support his claims about Hitchens), yet when a poster points out published statistics from the official Ohiobobcats.com he’s all offended.

https://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromP...
Last Edited: 1/19/2019 6:48:03 AM by BillyTheCat
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FearLeon
1/19/2019 8:20 AM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Here is Gman referring to Hitchens not being able to pass his SAT, interesting sidenot, GMan doesn’t even know how the SAT is scored, his statement is priceless for the conversation.

But again, GMan finds it ok to be critical of others, without the use of ANY facts by the way (zero documentation to support his claims about Hitchens), yet when a poster points out published statistics from the official Ohiobobcats.com he’s all offended.

https://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromP...

Billy the Cat with the Mic drop #WinnerWinnerChickenDinner
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