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Posted: 1/11/2022 9:46 PM

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: January 15th, 2022 4:30 PM

Opponent: Central Michigan  (2-12, 1-2 MAC)

Site: McGuirk Arena

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Posted: 1/11/2022 10:27 PM
CMU's only D1 win was a buzzer beater over winless Eastern Illinois. Will we finally get a never-in-doubter?
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Posted: 1/11/2022 10:42 PM
. . . other than a 3-pt win v. CMU.

Speaking of which, Kent now has losses to CMU and NIU. A loss to WMU will give them a hat trick no team wants.
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Posted: 1/11/2022 10:50 PM
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:23 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:13 AM
If we were 14 point favorites last week @ WM what should we expect this Sat. @ CM,
14? 18? 20?.
CM is sooo bad that this spread will probably be the widest ever for a Bobcat team, and we are on the road for this one.




GO BOBCATS
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:15 AM
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Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:38 AM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
. . . other than a 3-pt win v. CMU.

Speaking of which, Kent now has losses to CMU and NIU. A loss to WMU will give them a hat trick no team wants.
It should be noted that both losses were at home.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:41 AM
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Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:14 AM
71 BOBCAT wrote:expand_more
If we were 14 point favorites last week @ WM what should we expect this Sat. @ CM,
14? 18? 20?.
CM is sooo bad that this spread will probably be the widest ever for a Bobcat team, and we are on the road for this one.

GO BOBCATS
I hope that this allows us to go deep enough in the bench to see how our two newcomers can perform.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:16 AM
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Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.

Edit to add that they JUST extended the guy. They could lose every game they have left and he's not going anywhere. https://www.wksu.org/sports/2021-07-21/kent-state-univers...
Last Edited: 1/12/2022 10:29:01 AM by Recovering Journalist
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:22 AM
Recovering Journalist wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:58 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.


That’s my point….you look up…15 years have gone by and your coach had one NCAA Tournament appearance on his resume.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:23 PM
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Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
After a very craptastic start, Detroit Mercy has won 4 of the last 5.

But, yeah, if DJ Harvey (an all-bust team member) can't break the starting lineup at Detroit, they are not exactly Kansas or Duke.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 12:59 PM
We more or less fired Larry Hunter for finishing fourth every year.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:17 PM
This is a game we have to not be over confident in preparation, BUT Central has been pretty garbage this year. I expect the over / under to be -15 or -20 for the Bobcats. I'm not sure if Miles will return for this game but will be interesting to see how the rotation goes. Schmock has been playing well for us and we could use him on the court. We have been fortunate to have great play from our bench guys.

Random fact: AJ Clayton is actually in my Public Speaking class this semester! Told him great game last night.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 1:28 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.


That’s my point….you look up…15 years have gone by and your coach had one NCAA Tournament appearance on his resume.
Depending on where that coach is coaching, one in fifteen isn't a bad thing. He's solid. This is probably his worst year. If they recover yet this year, or next year, this is a non-topic. If not...who knows.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:21 PM
He just got extended, so the answer to the original question is “a while.”
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:48 PM
Last Edited: 1/12/2022 2:49:37 PM by FearLeon
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Posted: 1/12/2022 2:50 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.


That’s my point….you look up…15 years have gone by and your coach had one NCAA Tournament appearance on his resume.
Depending on where that coach is coaching, one in fifteen isn't a bad thing. He's solid. This is probably his worst year. If they recover yet this year, or next year, this is a non-topic. If not...who knows.
Were we all happy with one NCAA appearance from Larry Hunter in 12 years? I loved Larry, but I would say 95% of the board would say that was a disappointment during Larry's tenure as HC. Somebody already made a great point earlier...Sendy could be the current Larry Hunter of the MAC. Eleven seasons....one NCAA Tournament appearance. And god bless Larry....excellent coach....good man....and we don't have Jeff Boals without Larry Hunter.
Last Edited: 1/12/2022 2:53:27 PM by FearLeon
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Posted: 1/12/2022 3:19 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.


That’s my point….you look up…15 years have gone by and your coach had one NCAA Tournament appearance on his resume.
Depending on where that coach is coaching, one in fifteen isn't a bad thing. He's solid. This is probably his worst year. If they recover yet this year, or next year, this is a non-topic. If not...who knows.
Were we all happy with one NCAA appearance from Larry Hunter in 12 years? I loved Larry, but I would say 95% of the board would say that was a disappointment during Larry's tenure as HC. Somebody already made a great point earlier...Sendy could be the current Larry Hunter of the MAC. Eleven seasons....one NCAA Tournament appearance. And god bless Larry....excellent coach....good man....and we don't have Jeff Boals without Larry Hunter.
I wasn't unhappy with Larry - not for that reason anyway. And my reason back then, when I was a student, wouldn't phase me at all now.

There is always gonna be someone in a mid-major conference that is a good coach that has a 10+ year tenure without getting to more than one or two tournaments. It's reality in the MAC, Colonial, Horizon, etc.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 4:07 PM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
Oh man, I forgot about Kent.
I swear they've straight fallen off a cliff since playing Detroit.
How much longer can Senderhoff last at Kent?
Seriously? As much as I dislike "pinky" and his incessant gum chewing, he's done a pretty solid job at Kent.
Thread drift! But I agree. The guy is one of four coaches in the conference with a MAC Championship and regularly has Kent State in the top four of the league. The wheels are close to falling off this season, but that would be an insane firing. And I say that as someone who still thinks he got off easy for the recruiting scandal.
I agree he's in no danger but, sort of like TOS, he's always got the 4th best team in the MAC. Well, except this year.


That’s my point….you look up…15 years have gone by and your coach had one NCAA Tournament appearance on his resume.
Depending on where that coach is coaching, one in fifteen isn't a bad thing. He's solid. This is probably his worst year. If they recover yet this year, or next year, this is a non-topic. If not...who knows.
Were we all happy with one NCAA appearance from Larry Hunter in 12 years? I loved Larry, but I would say 95% of the board would say that was a disappointment during Larry's tenure as HC. Somebody already made a great point earlier...Sendy could be the current Larry Hunter of the MAC. Eleven seasons....one NCAA Tournament appearance. And god bless Larry....excellent coach....good man....and we don't have Jeff Boals without Larry Hunter.
I wasn't unhappy with Larry - not for that reason anyway. And my reason back then, when I was a student, wouldn't phase me at all now.

There is always gonna be someone in a mid-major conference that is a good coach that has a 10+ year tenure without getting to more than one or two tournaments. It's reality in the MAC, Colonial, Horizon, etc.
Being a good but not great team isn't necessarily terrible if you sprinkle in a little bit of hope come tournament time. Senderoff's teams however tend to peak early and then fade in February. The obvious exception is 2016-17 when they essentially rode Jimmy Hall's coattails to the tournament.

2020-21 - Blown out in 3 of their final 4 games including 85-63 to us in Cleveland
2019-20 - 4-6 in last 10 games
2018-19 - 3-5 in last 8 games
2017-18 - 5-7 in last 12 games
2016-17 - Magic, won 9 of 10 before losing to UCLA in the NCAA tournament
2015-16 - 4-8 in last 12 games

That's not what good coaches do.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 4:22 PM
Interesting how the extension was for less money when all coaches salaries appear to be rising?




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Posted: 1/12/2022 4:54 PM
Anyway....

Are we confident there will be a game? Half the players and 2 coaches missed the EMU debacle last night.
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Posted: 1/12/2022 5:17 PM
Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
Anyway....

Are we confident there will be a game? Half the players and 2 coaches missed the EMU debacle last night.
Will anyone be upset about missing out on a trip to Mount Pleasant, Michigan if there isn't a game?
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