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FearLeon
2/12/2022 10:53 AM
Does anyone have a list of the top 15 all-time scorers (total points) in Ohio hoops history? In Russ pregame interview with BVP he said that BVP can move into the top 15 all time today.

Curious how far he could move up with one more season at Ohio? If he comes back next year and puts up another great season, I think there is worthy discussion of his number being retired down the road. Hell, I think it should be retired regardless. And his career is more than just about numbers. He excelled and helped lead Ohio back to relevance during a freaking pandemic.

BVP can really cement his name in the Ohio record books with one more year.
Last Edited: 2/12/2022 11:04:41 AM by FearLeon
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GroverBall
2/12/2022 11:57 AM
Can't find top 15 but top top 10 is here (pages 9-11) and if BVP played another season he would likely make top 6?:

https://ohiobobcats.com/documents/2021/5/26/ohio_mbb_2021...

And here: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ohio/leaders...

1. Dave Jamerson, 1985-86 to 1989-90 2336
2. Paul Graham, 1985-86 to 1988-89 2170
3. Gary Trent, 1992-93 to 1994-95 2108
4. D.J. Cooper, 2009-10 to 2012-13 2075
5. Brandon Hunter, 1999-00 to 2002-03 2012
6. Geno Ford, 1993-94 to 1996-97 1752
7. Steve Skaggs, 1975-76 to 1978-79 1741
8. Leon Williams, 2004-05 to 2007-08 1716
9. Jerome Tillman, 2005-06 to 2008-09 1635
10. Walter Luckett, 1972-73 to 1974-75 1625

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FearLeon
2/12/2022 12:12 PM
GroverBall wrote:expand_more
Can't find top 15 but top top 10 is here (pages 9-11) and if BVP played another season he would likely make top 6?:

https://ohiobobcats.com/documents/2021/5/26/ohio_mbb_2021...

And here: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ohio/leaders...

1. Dave Jamerson, 1985-86 to 1989-90 2336
2. Paul Graham, 1985-86 to 1988-89 2170
3. Gary Trent, 1992-93 to 1994-95 2108
4. D.J. Cooper, 2009-10 to 2012-13 2075
5. Brandon Hunter, 1999-00 to 2002-03 2012
6. Geno Ford, 1993-94 to 1996-97 1752
7. Steve Skaggs, 1975-76 to 1978-79 1741
8. Leon Williams, 2004-05 to 2007-08 1716
9. Jerome Tillman, 2005-06 to 2008-09 1635
10. Walter Luckett, 1972-73 to 1974-75 1625

Ben Vander Plas 1398

Good stuff. Another year and BVP really goes down as an all-time Bobcat legend just off numbers.

This list is also a reminder how bad Billy Hahn was where he couldn’t win with Snoop and Jamerson.
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GroverBall
2/12/2022 1:00 PM
On a side note, looking at all the greats listed at the top of the individual categories I did a double-take seeing Wadly's name (Block Percentage) among them.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ohio/leaders...
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GroverBall
2/12/2022 1:02 PM
GroverBall wrote:expand_more
On a side note, looking at all the greats listed at the top of the individual categories I did a double-take seeing Wadly's name (Block Percentage) among them.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ohio/leaders...
Also interesting that BVP makes the top 10 in that category!
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bobcatsquared
2/12/2022 2:05 PM
Wadley, and others on that list other than BVP, more than likely got their blocks up high after the ball left the shooters hand. BVP, on the other hand, uses very quick hands to get the majority of his blocks down low before the shooter even gets the ball up high enough to shoot it.

Another thing I like about BVP, and these don't add to his blocks total, is how he swats everything away from around the rim when an opposing player shoots the ball after the whistle. I remember first noticing this being done by Kevin Garnett in the NBA.
Last Edited: 2/12/2022 2:07:36 PM by bobcatsquared
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Andrew Ruck
2/14/2022 8:43 AM
Gonna be hard to get into that top 5...quite a cliff between 5 & 6.

I love BVP, we all do, but I believe jersey retirement standards should be extremely high and BVP doesn't quite get there for me.
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shabamon
2/14/2022 8:52 AM
The record book is here and gets updated every offseason. https://ohiobobcats.com/documents/2021/5/26/ohio_mbb_2021...

At this moment, Ben is tied with Steve Esterkamp for 15th all time at 1,405 points. Next on the list is Nick Kellogg at 1,449.
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Recovering Journalist
2/14/2022 9:29 AM
I just hope he's able to get his ankle fully mended for Cleveland.
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giacomo
2/14/2022 11:36 AM
I was there when Steve Skaggs broke Walter Luckett's record at the time. Before the shot clock and three pointer.
Last Edited: 2/14/2022 11:37:07 AM by giacomo
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OUVan
2/14/2022 1:03 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
Gonna be hard to get into that top 5...quite a cliff between 5 & 6.

I love BVP, we all do, but I believe jersey retirement standards should be extremely high and BVP doesn't quite get there for me.
Another MAC tournament and possible NCAA tournament to change that.
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OUbobcat9092
2/14/2022 1:35 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
Gonna be hard to get into that top 5...quite a cliff between 5 & 6.

I love BVP, we all do, but I believe jersey retirement standards should be extremely high and BVP doesn't quite get there for me.
Another MAC tournament and possible NCAA tournament to change that.
Or two, if he comes back next year.
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shabamon
2/14/2022 1:35 PM
Jersey retirement should be reserved for the absolute legends of the program. Coop for sure should get the honor. Next in the conversation ought to be Snoopy Graham and Brandon Hunter. Love BVP and all he's meant to the program, but I think he's in the Leon Williams/Jerome Tillman category.
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Recovering Journalist
2/14/2022 1:53 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Jersey retirement should be reserved for the absolute legends of the program. Coop for sure should get the honor. Next in the conversation ought to be Snoopy Graham and Brandon Hunter. Love BVP and all he's meant to the program, but I think he's in the Leon Williams/Jerome Tillman category.
Agreed. Great company, but a distinct tier below all-time program players.
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FearLeon
2/14/2022 2:55 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Jersey retirement should be reserved for the absolute legends of the program. Coop for sure should get the honor. Next in the conversation ought to be Snoopy Graham and Brandon Hunter. Love BVP and all he's meant to the program, but I think he's in the Leon Williams/Jerome Tillman category.
A lot could happen over the next 13 months. I think if he can lead Ohio to one more NCAA tourney and at least one more tourney win, that he should absolutely be considered...especially if he's near top 5 in all-time scoring.
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OUVan
2/14/2022 3:00 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Jersey retirement should be reserved for the absolute legends of the program. Coop for sure should get the honor. Next in the conversation ought to be Snoopy Graham and Brandon Hunter. Love BVP and all he's meant to the program, but I think he's in the Leon Williams/Jerome Tillman category.
He's a legend in my book if we win another MAC Tournament. Think about what this team has accomplished after replacing an NBA draft pick, a starter quitting the game, another starter not playing all year because of injury and the 4th one losing his ability to do what he does best. BVP does whatever is needed of him to win. Obviously he isn't doing any of this on his own but he really is the glue of this team and an extension of Jeff Boals.
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The Optimist
2/14/2022 3:47 PM
GroverBall wrote:expand_more
On a side note, looking at all the greats listed at the top of the individual categories I did a double-take seeing Wadly's name (Block Percentage) among them.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ohio/leaders...
Tony Campbell on a lot of those lists... Had he not been plagued by injuries he'd likely be very high on the career scoring list.
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shabamon
2/14/2022 4:16 PM
If Tony Campbell doesn't break his foot, I think he repeats as POTY, we dance in 2017, and I think he has a case to have his jersey retired.
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giacomo
2/14/2022 5:32 PM
I don't see the fascination with retiring somebody's jersey. We do have a hall of fame. I think it would be cool if a future player could wear the number of a Bobcat legend.
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Kevin Finnegan
2/14/2022 6:13 PM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
If Tony Campbell doesn't break his foot, I think he repeats as POTY, we dance in 2017, and I think he has a case to have his jersey retired.
In this 'What-If' scenario, I imagine a tournament appearance gives Saul some grace, gets extended and miss out on Jeff Boals. You could keep going down this path for far too long. Doe Teyvion Kirk stay and keep Preston somewhat at bay? No tournament appearance last year?

Or, is there a butterfly effect, and if Tony doesn't break his leg, we make the tournament. Kent State misses out, thus Rob Senderoff doesn't have a tourney berth. He gets fired. Decides he wants to coach overseas and gets hired by the Wuhan Dangdai in China. While there, his teams underperform, attendance drops dramatically, and no large crowds are gathering. Thus, a virus in the air at the time doesn't end of spreading throughout the world and is instead contained.
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giacomo
2/15/2022 2:08 PM
I am laughing my a$$ off on that one!
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Roasting Joe
2/15/2022 4:21 PM
INDIVIDUAL CAREER RECORDS POINTS
1. Dave Jamerson (1986-90) ................................................................. 2,336
2. Paul Graham (1986-89)......................................................................2,170
3. Gary Trent (1993-95)........................................................................... 2,108
4. D.J. Cooper (2010-13) ......................................................................... 2,075
5. Brandon Hunter (2000-03) ............................................................... 2,012
6. Geno Ford (1994-97) .......................................................................... 1,752
7. Steve Skaggs (1976-79) ..................................................................... 1,741
8. Leon Williams (2005-08).................................................................... 1,716
9. Jerome Tillman (2006-09) ................................................................. 1,635
10. Walter Luckett (1973-75)................................................................... 1,625
11. John Devereaux (1981-84) ............................................................... 1,502
12. Tim Joyce (1977-79)............................................................................ 1,468
13. Jordan Dartis (2015-202) ........................................................ ..........1,461
14. Nick Kellogg (2011-14)....................................................................... 1,449
15. Steve Esterkamp (2000-03) .............................................................. 1,405
16. Sanjay Adell (1998-00) ....................................................................... 1,381
17. Curtis Simmons (1994-97) ................................................................ 1,353
18. Robert Tatum (1983-86) .................................................................... 1,348
19. Vic Alexander (1982-85) .................................................................... 1,323
20. Gerald McKee (1967-69)....................................................................1,310
21. Kirk Lehman (1979-82)....................................................................... 1,297
22. Sonny Troutman (2004-07) .............................................................. 1,272
23. Antonio Campbell (2013-17) ........................................................... 1,257
24. Don Hilt (1963-65) ............................................................................... 1,252
25. Jerry Jackson (1962-64) ..................................................................... 1,205
26. Bunk Adams (1959-61) ...................................................................... 1,196
27. John Canine (1968-70).......................................................................1,149
28. Reggie Keely (2010-13)......................................................................1,131
29. Frankie Baumholtz (1939-41) .......................................................... 1,096
30. Lewis Geter (1991-92) ........................................................................ 1,092
31. Fred Moore (1955-57) ........................................................................ 1,088
32. Ben Vander Plas (2019-Present)...................................................... 1,075
33. Tommy Freeman (2008-11) .............................................................. 1,071
34. Ivo Baltic (2010-13).............................................................................. 1,066
35. DeVaughn Washington (2008-11) ................................................. 1,061
36. Ken Kowall (1969-71).......................................................................... 1,042
37. Jaaron Simmons (2015-17)............................................................... 1,034
38. Jason Preston (2019-Present) .......................................................... 1,024
39. Jason Terry (1993-96) ......................................................................... 1,008
40. Jim Betts (1952-54).............................................................................. 1,008
41 Dwight Wilson III (2021-Present).................................................... 1,005
39. George Green (1973-75).................................................................... 1,003
Last Edited: 2/15/2022 4:24:13 PM by Roasting Joe
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Kevin Finnegan
2/15/2022 6:16 PM
The Dwight Wilson total isn't accurate. He 'only' scored 347 points for OHIO in his one year (so far).

Also, Jason Carter now has 1207 points for OHIO, putting him up on this list. BVP now sits at 1405 and Mark Sears has a chance, if he's here for a while, to really eat into this list. He is already at 702 points scored.
Last Edited: 2/15/2022 6:21:47 PM by Kevin Finnegan
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OUbobcat9092
2/15/2022 9:10 PM
INDIVIDUAL CAREER RECORDS POINTS
1. Dave Jamerson (1986-90) ................................................................. 2,336
2. Paul Graham (1986-89)......................................................................2,170
3. Gary Trent (1993-95)........................................................................... 2,108
4. D.J. Cooper (2010-13) ......................................................................... 2,075
5. Brandon Hunter (2000-03) ............................................................... 2,012
6. Geno Ford (1994-97) .......................................................................... 1,752
7. Steve Skaggs (1976-79) ..................................................................... 1,741
8. Leon Williams (2005-08).................................................................... 1,716
9. Jerome Tillman (2006-09) ................................................................. 1,635
10. Walter Luckett (1973-75)................................................................... 1,625
11. John Devereaux (1981-84) ............................................................... 1,502
12. Tim Joyce (1977-79)............................................................................ 1,468
13. Jordan Dartis (2015-202) ........................................................ ..........1,461
14. Nick Kellogg (2011-14)....................................................................... 1,449
15. Ben Vander Plas (2019-Present)...................................................... 1,435
16. Steve Esterkamp (2000-03) .............................................................. 1,405
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OUbobcat9092
2/15/2022 9:13 PM
BVP could get to #11 by the end of the year.

If he comes back for next year...

Maybe a chance at 2,000 and #6
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