I think is what he means is we shouldn't take losses like Kansas too hard and just trash the team.  I mean come on it was Kansas, even I knew we didn't stand a chance.  Now did I expect a 50 point loss?  No.  BUT, I still will cheer my butt off for them and will look forward to each game because I still think we will make some noise again this season.  If anyone has doubts, it's still way too early.  Reality is any team like that is not going to be like Georgetown because after that game no one is going to overlook us but instead break us down play by play and even down to the very steps each of our guys make so they can be sure that they won't be the next team to be upset by someone like OHIO.

Going back to his tweet.  What he's saying is either we love them or just continually trash them as if we lose at all some of you guys jump all over them and talk about how we should just move down to div 2 or how we need to get rid of Groce because he "obviously doesn't know what he's doing" when these losses have come to teams that were already expected to beat us.  Imagine what they must feel when they read that crap that some of us are embarrassed by the performance they put up against Kansas.    Take all that into consideration if we lose to another big team.  But take into consideration what the players must feel when you trash them.

Love...really.....

WHO CARES DUDE???

ELITIST WITH NO CLASS!!!

NOW GO SOMEWHERE AND SIT DOWN!

THAT OR GO PUT ON A JERSEY AND PLAY THE GAME YOURSELF!

NOT!

I agree, if you are a student athlete, stay away from this board. 90% of what we say about you will give you a big head, and the other 10% will make you want to pull your hair out. Don't take it personally, we're just a bunch of old(er) dudes who love OHIO and the sports teams that represent it. One day you'll miss your days in Athens too and guys like us will make a lot more sense to you, but for now, it's not worth looking at.

Now that that's said- Can we PLEASE be the adults in this scenario and stop posting tweets, or facebook posts, or rumors, or whatever from student athletes? Their opinion of us or any other topic doesn't need to be discussed and overly analyzed on a public message board. Seriously, stop.

Part of being apart of Division I revenue generating athletic teams means you're held to a higher standard. So if you post something to a social media site chances are someone is going to notice. There's a reason these same kids got their toys taken away at the beginning of the season. If they're not getting pissed off at the same people who cheered them on in Cleveland and Providence last year then they're posting about the games they're gambling on and how they're going to go out and party that night. 

OCF:

You nailed it.  Some people want -- and NEED -- to bring attention to themselves. And I think we all know WHO that is.
Glad I'm not that insecure.

Wow, I'm surprised you could post from your high horse.  That wasn't the point at all.  And you're right, I'm on this board after every single game just lighting into this team.  I secretly hate the Bobcats, after all.  Just look at all the criticism I heaped on the team after the Kansas game.

Yes, I do criticize players and coaches, but the point is that they shouldn't be listening to me or anyone else here.  Our opinions mean nothing and they should be given that much weight.  Don't give our conversations consideration they don't deserve.  If there was a board where people were talking about the tennis team, I sure as heck would avoid it like the plague.  What good could come of it?

On another subject, as far as fair-weather fans go, I would consider Graff, who says he's not interested unless we're one of the best teams of the country, to be a fair-weather fan.  Yes, LOVE is pretty pessimistic, but he's still following and still interested win or lose.  Pretty committed, I'd say.

PAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

So there are standards people have to meet in order to be a "true" fan?  I'm not cool with that.  The man overreacts to losses.  The bigger the loss, the bigger the overreaction.  Just something we need to realize and deal with.

Fantastic post.  I also understand the temptation of coming here as a player.  I was listening to an interview one of the producers and writers of "The Office" gave.  He was asked if he ever reads the Internet fan boards, and he admitted he did, saying, "If somebody told you there was as symposium about you going on behind that door, you'd peek your head in, wouldn't you?"  That is why the coaches need to step in, I think.  And maybe they have.  I don't know.  At the same time, it's good for us to keep in mind that you should assume the people you're writing about are going to be reading what you post.

One thing is for sure, the fan/player dynamic is changing in an unprecedented way.

I came back over here after reading the Butler board.

Glad they dont have thin skins.  If all of you want to see what a real basketball school does to it's athletes go to UK, IU or Kansas boards after they lose, especially if it is a blow out. I am pretty sure none of those kids read the boards just because they know those rabid fans are nucking futs. The kid at Butler lives just up the road in Kokomo and is one of the hardest workers I know. Probably has a lot in common with your Tunji, except that he would never put himself in the spot that Tunji (sp?) did. Both are walk ons and have great intelligence with less than stellar basketball abilities as compared to the athletes they perform with as peers. Still they bring energy and have a purpose.

Believe me when I say all boards go through the same pain when losses are unexpected. Welcome to the big time. With John Groce and the win at Georgetown last year folks get hoops blind real quick. I find it refreshing to see  the Butler fanbase who have become a bit too smarty pants imagining themselves elite and above some "Programs" that have been in place for a long time being  brought back to earth for a moment.

Interesting. I watch/listen to or at least catch the box score of every game every year. Win or lose. Hell, I still keep track of player stats. Something I started doing way back in the Gary Trent days. I read this forum weekly if not daily. Just because I don't post much, and the first time I felt the need to post this year was after the Kansas debacle where I shared my honest view of that game and this program, apparently makes me a fair-weather fan. *shrugs* Interesting.

Back on topic. I agree with the Love 100% about his initial post-game reaction. He had every right to be upset and voice his opinion about that D3-esque performance we put on the court against Kansas. I'm glad the guys followed that up by taking a small step forward against Santa Clara. Not great by any stretch, but a good start. Much better than the alternative. Need to keep moving forward. Speaking for myself, I only get so pissed off because I actually care. I'd enjoy seeing OU considered a perennial top 40 team in the country because I think it could actually happen some day.

That said, I generally think it's a horrible idea for players to be reading a message board. I also generally think it's a horrible idea for players to tweet/facebook. I also generally think it's a horrible idea for members of a message board to read and post said social media outlets. It can lead to absolutely nothing good. But, since in this case all of the above bad ideas apparently occurred, my reaction is this: Get over it. If you're going to read a message board full of fans who care enough to watch/listen/attend games and ALSO spend their free time posting about the team on a message board, then you better put on your big boy pants when you CHOOSE to read it. Don't enjoy reading that people thought your performance was shall we say "sub-par"? Two easy solutions. Don't play so sub-par, or don't read the message board. Pretty easy.

If I have a day as bad as our team had against Kansas at MY job? Pretty sure my boss doesn't give me a pat on the back and a "it'll be alright Wes. They were a really tough client/person. Keep your head up and we'll try and get em next time" speech. Pretty sure I get my behind lit up with the threat of getting canned if it continues. THAT'S the real world. But unfortunately the LOVE is right, we live in a world of "everybody gets a trophy".  Going to be a rude post-basketball awakening for some of these athletes I think.

There is a difference between a major program and an irrelevant program. At a major program like Ohio the boards will have lots of chatter and discussion after big games.  I'm sure an irrelvant program like EMU had crickets on their board after their 71-3 defeat on Friday.  Ohio is a major program and fans will have a spirited discussion. Great thing about our board is the diverse opinions and those that aren't afraid to speak their mind. Yes we are a bit manic or bi-polar on here but its because we all care so much about our beloved OHIO teams. I'd have that over the crickets at EMU.