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John C. Wanamaker
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:31 PM
PutnamField wrote:expand_more
$412,525.76 house, feed, send team to New Orleans


Whoa! I'm sure someone can and will contribute more information about this figure, but I didn't need to get the calculator out to do this:

-Roughly 150 people traveling on/with the team as part of its actual operations (someone tell me if this is way off)

-$412k to get them there and back with food and shelter

-Equals roughly $2,700 per head

Again, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but is this the best you can do amid a budget crisis? I'm pretty sure that a small group of Bobcatattack posters could have arranged this trip having no particular experience, charged a ten percent fee for our troubles and saved the university a hefty sum.
Nothing wrong with that travel, flight, busses in Ohio and NO and Ohio, meals, drinks, per-diem, it adds up. And to be fair the University cut corners and never even approached what the NCAA allows. In all a good job by those in charge!
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Posted: 1/10/2011 4:35 PM
I figured flights would be the most expensive bit, and I imagine the University can't do much about lodging requirements, as the team hotels typically have deals with the game itself for a certain number of rooms and nights.

The Student Senate monies are interesting, of course.  If you're accounting/auditing the Athletic Department, that would be a revenue of the game (income that wouldn't have otherwise existed), but if you're looking at the University as a whole, that amount of money from Senate obviously had to come from somewhere and would've existed with or without the bowl.

Without doing much additional research, perhaps we broke even as an Athletic Department, but lost some money as a University, given that some of the Athletic Department "revenue" constituted a movement of funds within the University?

There are too many bowls, at this point, and major collegiate athletics seem to be holding on by a tenuous string in some ways.
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Posted: 1/12/2011 12:37 AM
The analsysi here is in the ballpark.  But you need to add in some of this:  What are our costs for an away game generall; that is, what increased cost did we face for a bowl game at a greater than normal distance for an away game.  Same on the revenue side--what would revs normally be for an away game and what were they here.  Comparison to norm stuff.
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Posted: 1/12/2011 8:54 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
The analsysi here is in the ballpark.  But you need to add in some of this:  What are our costs for an away game generall; that is, what increased cost did we face for a bowl game at a greater than normal distance for an away game.  Same on the revenue side--what would revs normally be for an away game and what were they here.  Comparison to norm stuff.


Monroe the cost is much greater and the revenue far less.  I am not sure what you are asking here, but the Bowl travel lasted a week and is double the size of the normal travel party, and a plane is involved (not always in regular season game) has to be larger than one used for a regular season game.  And there is NO revenue associated with regular season non-money games.
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Posted: 1/12/2011 10:53 AM
John C. Wanamaker wrote:expand_more
The analsysi here is in the ballpark.  But you need to add in some of this:  What are our costs for an away game generall; that is, what increased cost did we face for a bowl game at a greater than normal distance for an away game.  Same on the revenue side--what would revs normally be for an away game and what were they here.  Comparison to norm stuff.


Monroe the cost is much greater and the revenue far less.  I am not sure what you are asking here, but the Bowl travel lasted a week and is double the size of the normal travel party, and a plane is involved (not always in regular season game) has to be larger than one used for a regular season game.  And there is NO revenue associated with regular season non-money games.


We start on the road in New Mexico next year.  I have to think even with a smaller party, we'll still fly, stay fewer days, but get no revenue because it is a home and home.  Is it safe to say that will be a more expensive trip, but it'll be ok because it is budgeted for?
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Posted: 1/12/2011 3:41 PM
there is a big difference in the size of the plane that you are chartering for a game with a limited travel party and one with the entire roster, support staff, Athletic Suits, and families.  That difference can be 30k+
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Posted: 1/12/2011 4:17 PM
As an aviation flight and aviation management major The difference in planes can be well well well over 30k. Trust me
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Posted: 1/12/2011 4:26 PM
They flew a boeing 767-300 to MSY. Just the fuel operating cost of the 767 per hour is around 4700 dollars an hour. Not to mention the company had to make money sooo yea. its not cheap. A small jet would be much much cheaper.
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Posted: 1/12/2011 11:20 PM
Attendance is counted as tickets sold.  I had 4 tickets that I could not use on Sunday but they counted anyway.  It's not just Ohio University but across college and pro sports.
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