That's not the point-they're not 4 year guys are they?

class of 2011
Washington-  started both junior and seniors season. impact player
Freeman- started as sophmore, junior and senior. impact player and all-time best list  of 3pt shooting
Nagtzaam- no impact
Pearson- got arrested and never played a game at Ohio. 
2 hits and 2 big misses in the post with Leon Williams graduating set us back. 
 
class of 2012
Waters- no impact
Dobbs- one season as backup pg  then transfers. now starter at Bryant as a sophmore.
Coleman- was starter for 1 1/2 seasons. got hurt, got arrested and quit basketball for rap music career
2 of 3 showed division I talent, but none lasted 2 years.   
Those were O'Shea's last two classes.  

2 of 7 still on team from the last two years of O'Shea's recruiting classes. That has made the roster younger, but Groce was able to mold his players faster.  

class of 2013 Groce's first recruiting class
Cooper- pg  starter from day 1 as a freshmen  and on all-MAC team.    
Baltic- pf  starter as a sophmore and showing why he was rated high as a recruit in high school.
Keely- pf backup post player playing significant minutes in the rotation.
Horne- never played a game at Ohio quit before first practice.  
Kinney- 1/2 season as backup, arrested and never played again. Had talent when he played though.

So far this class is looking very good with 2 starters  and a key reserve by sophmore year. 3 of 5 were hits.
2 never saw sophmore season.

class of 2014
Kellogg- sg starter as a freshmen and shooting 47% from behind the arc. all-mac freshmen team perhaps
Hall-sf/pf key reserve who has gotten minutes.  role player for now. player more than expected this year
Johnson-sg having a strong finish to season as a role player. now getting some pt late fr year. 
Jacobs-c project type. no impact this year. Needs to hit the weight room in offseason. 

looks like 3 of 4 hits with Johnson surge late to get Groce's attention.  Great class to compliment the 2013 class.

7 of 9 of Groce's recruits still with the program from last two years. 

transfers
2010
Bassett- sg played one season and was MAC tournament MVP.  juice was worth the squeeze. 
2011
A. Kellogg- pf never played, but he sold his brother on Ohio which is a significant contribution. 

2012

Smith- pf needs to be atleast a solid backup for us next year 
Offutt  sg well needed ballhandler off the bench for us.    

 

  

In truth, our "four-year" focus hasn't really worked out that well, has it?  How many have we lost after 0 (Kellogg), 1 and 2 years?

This team is uninteresting.  At least that resolves the scheduling conflicts I normally have this time of year.

This is the best thread
It may set a precedent
No more standard threads

Quite possibly my favorite post so far in this young year.

3-2 is a must if we want to grab the coveted 7 seed.  Anything less and we probably end up with the 8 or even as low as 10 seed.  8 probably means we open with Central or Eastern but then we'd have to face Buffalo or Miami in round 2.

Even in Akron where they taught it in 9th grade junior high school English, one would know the true structure of haikiu.  Right SBH?  Good attempt though guys in a rathe lame period for posts on this site.

A haiku is an un-rhymed verse genre. In Japanese, haiku has five syllables in the first line, seven in the second, and five again in the third - the two sevens at the end (they count sounds, not strictly syllables, however, and also write in a single vertical line, but we use three horizontal lines in English). In Japanese, the word "haiku" means "playful verse." More important than form is that a haiku contain a "kigo" (season word) and employ the equivalent to a "kireji" (cutting word), which means that the poem should present two juxtaposed parts in three lines. In addition, haiku should use objective sensory images, and avoid subjective commentary. You also must use imagery to write the Haiku, in order for the reader to visualize what you are writing.

They're using limericks.
Go back to complaining 'bout,
Faulty attendance

Understand young twin
The elder Bobcat's mission
To launch a new spring.

RE: Limericks

Well, it comes naturally as I'm part Irish, and I don't speak Japanese.  

I agree the oubobcatjohn breakdown was helpful and worth saving. It says the massive attrition was an end product of O'shea's last 2 recruiting classes. Even with the short roster this team is headed toward a 15+ win season for a passing grade in year 3. Next year the results will all be on Groce as it will be all his players.