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Posted: 3/4/2011 7:51 AM
This game should be either on TV or on line, especially since it's a Friday game.





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Posted: 3/4/2011 8:36 AM
Sheridan has it as a pickem game. I'm picking OHIO.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 10:45 AM
Bobcat Dragon wrote:expand_more
Are we for real or was Akron just one of those magical nights?  Are Devo/Baltic/Keely in good enough shape to repeate Tuesday's performance?  Can Cooper nail 7 threes if Miami shuts down Freeman/Kellog like he did vs. Akron?  Some questions to ponder.

No question about this:  Muck Fiami.


Akron has a good defense and Miami does not.  In fact, their defense sucks.  One of the worst in the conference and in the bottom 30 nationally.  They don't hang on to the ball and they don't turn opponents over.  How are they 10-5?  I have no idea and think they're in for a fall.  We're catching them at the right time; they're about to regress to the mean.

Our offense is better.  Our defense is better.  The only place they have us is rebounding.  If we can draw even on the boards, we'll win without much problem.


Dragon--I think the sample size in MAC games is high enough to conclude that Miami is one of the better MAC teams despite the stats in their season box score.  They are 10-5.  Maybe there are factors in their play that aren't really captured well by the data at hand.  Also, as you know, there are certainly "intangibles", or factors that can't be measured. 

I'm not ready to conclude that Miami all of a sudden is going to be a different team than 10-5 in the MAC.  They are one of about six teams capable of winning the MAC tournament. 

IMO, Ohio will have to play really well to win this game in Oxford.  Maybe it's because I've been to so many games over the years there and I've seen what it's like there. 

Agree that if the Bobcats bring their "A" game, they have a good shot at winning this one.  The Bobcats' "B" game might be enough to win if we get a few breaks.   
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Posted: 3/4/2011 12:24 PM
The Bobcats are now 1 points favorites tonight.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 12:31 PM
Miami has a chance to claim the #1 seed if they win tonight.  We gotta block the road!! 
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Posted: 3/4/2011 12:35 PM
Flomo-genized wrote:expand_more
The Bobcats are now 1 points favorites tonight.


That's pretty remarkable considering we are on the road and behind them in the standings.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 12:44 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Are we for real or was Akron just one of those magical nights?  Are Devo/Baltic/Keely in good enough shape to repeate Tuesday's performance?  Can Cooper nail 7 threes if Miami shuts down Freeman/Kellog like he did vs. Akron?  Some questions to ponder.

No question about this:  Muck Fiami.


Akron has a good defense and Miami does not.  In fact, their defense sucks.  One of the worst in the conference and in the bottom 30 nationally.  They don't hang on to the ball and they don't turn opponents over.  How are they 10-5?  I have no idea and think they're in for a fall.  We're catching them at the right time; they're about to regress to the mean.

Our offense is better.  Our defense is better.  The only place they have us is rebounding.  If we can draw even on the boards, we'll win without much problem.


Dragon--I think the sample size in MAC games is high enough to conclude that Miami is one of the better MAC teams despite the stats in their season box score.  They are 10-5.  Maybe there are factors in their play that aren't really captured well by the data at hand.  Also, as you know, there are certainly "intangibles", or factors that can't be measured. 

I'm not ready to conclude that Miami all of a sudden is going to be a different team than 10-5 in the MAC.  They are one of about six teams capable of winning the MAC tournament. 

IMO, Ohio will have to play really well to win this game in Oxford.  Maybe it's because I've been to so many games over the years there and I've seen what it's like there. 

Agree that if the Bobcats bring their "A" game, they have a good shot at winning this one.  The Bobcats' "B" game might be enough to win if we get a few breaks.   


Miami's scoring margin in MAC games is +5. Typically, that would equate to an 8-7 record rather than a 10-5 record. Miami has won more than an average share of close games, though, and there is something to be said for that. They've won two MAC games in OT and has just one game by more than 12. They lost games by 21 and 17. They are far more likely to get blown out than to win by blowout. But they also are likely to win close games. They've really only lost one close MAC game.

By comparison, our scoring margin in MAC games is +55. That's the kind of margin that more often comes out to 10-5. Of course, that just shows how many close games we've lost. The exceptions are the Ball State and Kent State games. Our MAC losses are by 4, 3, 12, 5, 6 and 2.

A lot of times, those things eventually even out. That's probably what Dragon is getting at. But sometimes teams just have a knack for winning close games and others don't. I hope we've started to learn to win those games and maybe to a certain extent the luck will run out on Miami in the next few games. We can certainly hope so.

At any rate, completely unrelated, can someone text me occassional updates on the game tonight? I have to be at high school basketball all night. I don't have a fancy phone to check scores on my own. Thanks in advance!

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Posted: 3/4/2011 12:47 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
At any rate, completely unrelated, can someone text me occassional updates on the game tonight? I have to be at high school basketball all night. I don't have a fancy phone to check scores on my own. Thanks in advance!
I think I can manage that during MTOs.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 1:00 PM
Pomeroy rates Miami as the sixth-luckiest team in the nation.

A downfall's a-comin'.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 1:33 PM
anorris wrote:expand_more
At any rate, completely unrelated, can someone text me occassional updates on the game tonight? I have to be at high school basketball all night. I don't have a fancy phone to check scores on my own. Thanks in advance!
I think I can manage that during MTOs.


Thanks, I appreciate it!
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Posted: 3/4/2011 1:57 PM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Our MAC losses are by 4, 3, 12, 5, 6 and 2.


Thats pretty remarkable, really.  1 loss by more than 2 possessions.  It really makes you wonder what kind of conference season we could've put together had we figured it all out in early January instead of mid February. 

I am mostly with Dragon on this one...If I was a gambler, I'd load up on Ohio, and in fact gave that advice to a couple gambling friends today.  That being said, it is still on the road in the MAC.  And against your rival.  That alone means it is far from a sure victory.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 2:07 PM
While watching the Akron game, I found myself drawing comparisons to the Buffalo game at the end of the 2005 season.  I just hope that tonght's game doesn't end up like the next game in 2005.  Unless, it ends in a MAC Tournament Title, again. 
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Posted: 3/4/2011 2:12 PM
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I am mostly with Dragon on this one...If I was a gambler, I'd load up on Ohio, and in fact gave that advice to a couple gambling friends today.  That being said, it is still on the road in the MAC.  And against your rival.  That alone means it is far from a sure victory.


It's almost in the "Too good to be true" realm.  I went to bed confident we'd put a beating on them but I woke up much less confident. 
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Posted: 3/4/2011 2:26 PM
You guys are right, and Millett makes me nervous.  But if there were ever a favorable time to go into Oxford and win, it's now.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 2:57 PM
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You guys are right, and Millett makes me nervous.  But if there were ever a favorable time to go into Oxford and win, it's now.


I agree.  Bobcats 72-64.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 3:11 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Miami has a chance to claim the #1 seed if they win tonight.  We gotta block the road!! 


Ruining the tournament for M!@#! is one of my very favorite things.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 4:35 PM
I just want to say it absolutely SUCKS this game isn ot on TV or online anywhere.  I love Russ on the radio, but this one deserves to be seen.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 6:15 PM
Cant find to see if Muck's website will show the game.? cant find it anywhere.. tried channelsurfing.... anyone?
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Posted: 3/4/2011 7:10 PM
What a joke.  M!&%! proves inferior once again.  
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Posted: 3/4/2011 7:17 PM
HELP!  anyone find an online video feed??? 
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Posted: 3/4/2011 7:37 PM
Guess the answer is no.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 8:42 PM
listening to the live stream, about 9 min left in the game.

this is painful.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 8:55 PM
Oh well.  Refocus and refuel.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 9:03 PM
I HATE the way we played tonight...but I like the idea of tuning up Tuesday against Toledo and keeping things moving.  Fatigue doesn't really concern me, but I'm not the one playing 4 games in 5 days.  Just couldn't hit the long ball tonight.  Losing to Miami twice in a year makes me want to punch something.
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Posted: 3/4/2011 9:14 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
I HATE the way we played tonight...but I like the idea of tuning up Tuesday against Toledo and keeping things moving.  Fatigue doesn't really concern me, but I'm not the one playing 4 games in 5 days.  Just couldn't hit the long ball tonight.  Losing to Miami twice in a year makes me want to punch something.


We are not guaranteed to be playing Toledo.  It all depends on the outcome of the Buffalo/Bowling Green game whether we get the #5 or #6 seed.
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