http://twitter.com/#!/aaronfuss/status/80349862478102529
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http://www.nba.com/video/teams/wizards/2011/06/09/Unsaved.../

I'd have to think he'd be a power forward. He developed an improved jumper but he still didn't have range out even to the college 3-point line. With few exceptions, you have to be able to shoot a littlemore than that  to play small forward. I think he is tall enough to play power forward in most pro leagues, especially with his leaping ability, but he will have to bulk up more.

So, should Gary Trent be in the hall of fame? He prepared for a pro career, and had a pretty good one.

So did Whittington and Hester. Coleman, as far as I know, was still in class last school year.

Pretty sure they have to transfer to another D1, or at least NCAA school... If you guys are right that all of those guys don't count against us, then we're losing a scholarship based solely on Armon leaving... not sure that's correct...

If you leave school to pursue a pro career you need to be in good standing academically. If that is the case there is no penalty.

What off court issues? Gary Trent was never charged with any thing while a student at Ohio University. He used his time here as an internship for the NBA, and had an above average career. Just throwing it out there since we were discussing "internships" for getting ready for the pros.

BC, what have you been drinking?  Gary Trent had no off-the-court issues at Ohio?  Perhaps I missed the sarcasm in your post.

Baseball has been very consistent on this issue: Do something that puts the integrity of the game in question, and you get banned for life -- no HOF and no further playing, if you are still of the playing generation when caught.  Rose is being treated like the Chicago 8 (Black Sox Scandal) and rightfully so.  

Actually baseball has not been consistent on this rule.

First off, Pete Rose accepted a lifetime ban, similar to the ones given to Joe Jackson, Eddie Cicotte, Happy Felsch, Chick Gandil, Lefty Williams, Swede Risberg, Fred McMullin and Buck Weaver of the 1919 Chicago White Sox.  None of those guys (who far predate Rose) have ever been eligible for the Hall of Fame.  One had a near-lock case (Jackson) and two had very strong arguments (Cicotte and Weaver).  However, the Baseball Hall of Fame, which is an institution able to abide by its own practices and offers no guarantees to anyone, has chosen to keep all offenders of baseball rules out.  These players committed atrocities against baseball, not against society as a whole necessarily.  They are judging their exclusive members on their acts on the field, that is why a player with a weak moral compass such as Ty Cobb is offered induction, but Jackson and Rose are not.

Yet, this relates back to Ohio because Rose, Jackson, Weaver, et. al, had their indiscretions proven.  Has anything against Gary Trent ever been proven?  Were any of his misdeeds related to basketball?  What were the indiscretions?  If they are enough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame, they ought to be more than just whispers and suspicions. 

Also, re: baseball changing its rules ex post facto, tell that to Mark McGwire.  He feels that way too.  

We've had this discussion before, and this is a total threadjack, but Joe Jackson is innocent.

http://www.chicagolawyermagazine.com/Archives/2009/09/01/092009sox.aspx


Heck, the House of Representatives in 1999 passed a resolution asking for his ban to be lifted and for him to take his rightful place in the Hall. It is past time for that to happen.

BC: Actually,  baseball has been very consistent.  There was one known cheater -- way back in the early part of the 20th century -- that wasn't disciplined.  I can't remember his name right now.  Other than that it's been consistent since the days of Kenesaw Mountain "throw-the-book-at-them" Landis.  Had to get that subtle Civil War reference in there; his father was wounded in said battle, hence his name.  

At Ohio, Gary was in the news for some stuff like beating his girlfriend over the head with her purse.  I think you are right that he didn't have any convictions.  He also had some similar trouble as a pro, as I recall.  And, as we all know, he's never graduated and left the university with a GPA that was abysmal.   Sum total, he's not a good candidate for the HOF, IMHO.  Guys like Mike Haley, Don Hilt, Paul Storey, Greg McDivitt, Jerry Jackson, Craig Love, etc.,  from the "glory years" never had any such problems that I'm aware of.  Character counts.

Edit:: finnOhio has some good points; however, in my mind the requirements for the Ohio HOF rightfully consider character more than the baseball HOF.  For instance, if Ty Cobb had played college baseball at Ohio before his pro-career, I would not be in favor of his admission to the Ohio HOF, though he would be in the baseball HOF.  In baseball, the disqualifying offenses are rightfully limited to actions that impugn the integrity of the game.  We are an educational institution, and -- as result -- have different standards for our HOF than professional baseball.