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Posted: 12/23/2011 4:15 PM
IS THAT NOT THE SCORE BOARD?!

no, its not.

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Posted: 12/23/2011 5:47 PM
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The roof might ha've been an issue years ago, but there is no way the roof can't hold a big LED TV.  My roommates and I could hold it up ourselves.


Nice to hear we have a Plan B at least.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 5:56 PM
Yeah, I figured this announcement would just be a tv announcement, though its a slightly disappointing one at that.  Maybe its just a challenge for as many of us as possible to travel to show ESPN where they should have gone to.

And glad to see everyone as interested as getting a videoboard (or as I called it a scoreboard because I'm so 20th century) as I am.  We have engineers, we have duct tape, make it work!
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Posted: 12/23/2011 6:53 PM
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If not the Miami game then perhaps the Kent St. game or even Akron.


I'm answering out of ignorance however as I have no idea if either of those games are slated on ESPN already.



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Posted: 12/23/2011 7:13 PM
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IS THAT NOT THE SCORE BOARD?!

no, its not.



That is funny.

I know that being on ESPNU is good.  But with all the games 'cast over a season, aren't we good enough to be on EPSN or ESPN2.  I assume that ESPN's sched isn't set in stone, that they can see a team is hot and decide to pick up some of their games?!  Shouldn't the 'Cats vs. 'kron or Beefs or kents be some good ball?
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Posted: 12/23/2011 9:04 PM
Ahhh, the Terry Bowden hire is already reaping rewards.
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Posted: 12/23/2011 9:47 PM
perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
IS THAT NOT THE SCORE BOARD?!

no, its not.



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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:30 AM
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I know that being on ESPNU is good.  But with all the games 'cast over a season, aren't we good enough to be on EPSN or ESPN2.  I assume that ESPN's sched isn't set in stone, that they can see a team is hot and decide to pick up some of their games?!  Shouldn't the 'Cats vs. 'kron or Beefs or kents be some good ball?

I would say it is both more set in stone than you'd think.  They have more contracts to satisfy the requirements of (minimum # appearances, maximum # appearances for teams, selection order, etc.) than I care to even think about, and coming up with a plan to satisfy them all can be complex.  They build flexibility in with their wildcard timeslots, like the one we were just selected for, but the date, time, and network are all fixed prior to the season beginning.  The MAC gets one ESPN2 slot per regular season the past few years, and it is the last Friday night of the season.  Lately, it has been home for Akron and Kent State (for good reason), but our game @ Miami falls that day, too.

What is unfortunate is that the two remaining ESPNU wildcard dates, after the Akron selection, fall during crossover play.  BSU @ Ohio might not be a bad game.  I highly doubt Ohio @ EMU gets put on the air.  Frankly, outside of maybe BG-Toledo in up years for both programs, none of the crossover games are all that appealing to me, and I wish we'd either work the conference schedule or the TV schedule to feature more divisional matchups.

Of note, STO also has a couple of 21-day windows we can play our way into, which I think we have a much better shot at getting.  They fall on the days of our games vs. Akron and @ Kent.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 1:57 AM
I guess so...but one ESPN2 slot is all the conference gets?  No more on ESPN2 and none on ESPN?  Given all the games that those two channels show, that's not good for us.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 2:31 AM
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I guess so...but one ESPN2 slot is all the conference gets?  No more on ESPN2 and none on ESPN?  Given all the games that those two channels show, that's not good for us.
That is the deal the MAC has.  That's a minimum, but they won't schedule more unless you win consistently (ie: over a period of years) and draw viewership (ie: Butler, Gonzaga, etc.).
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Posted: 12/24/2011 8:57 AM
All of which increases the need for additional internet feeds--like last night's game. I watched along with my son and daughter, something we could have never done even a few years ago. As technology continues to improve, I think we'll see more of those kinds of broadcasts, and the technical quality of the production (hopefully) will also improve.

I would also think the ESPN's of the world are considering this likely future, and how they can keep a finger on it.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 9:15 AM
I think the MAC still has a lot of proving to do, even within the realm of "mid-majors," before ESPN starts adding games.  One of the websites that has a "mid-major" ranking (Rivals or ESPN) excludes teams from CUSA, MWC and A10 from the list.  I guess they're considered "upper mid-major" largely because they consistently have one or more teams in the top 25.  The past several years, the MAC has been considered somewhat borderline "lower mid-major" because it hasn't been able to get an at-large bid in the dance.  It goes to not being able to beat the big guys during the regular season.  This season, the MAC has made some noise with Akron's win over Miss St and some close losses.  ESPN will come knocking when those losses turn into wins.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 10:32 AM
This should be the reference thread for those BB only fans that think we should drop FB classifications in lieu of emphasizing hoops. With less fall TV competition, an entire month of weeknight games on the ESPN family plus three or more bowl opportunities, we need to remain in the upper tier of FB. I would love to see the Cats hoops on ESPN more to heighten national awareness of the school and program, but there is so much programming competition in winter that it makes a level of exposure that FB receives nearly impossible. (and makes the dollar amount spent on FB relative to the exposure seem like a steal)
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Posted: 12/24/2011 12:51 PM
Given the size of the convo and our ability to fill it any number of our home games would be compelling for an ESPN or ESPSN2 broadcast but our competition isn't as exciting. It takes 2 to make it an exciting match up and frankly Kent, Akron, Miami and Buffalo haven't lived up to their potential.

Maybe a good Bracketbuster match up will get us on the big channel.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 2:43 PM
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All of which increases the need for additional internet feeds--like last night's game. I watched along with my son and daughter, something we could have never done even a few years ago. As technology continues to improve, I think we'll see more of those kinds of broadcasts, and the technical quality of the production (hopefully) will also improve.

I would also think the ESPN's of the world are considering this likely future, and how they can keep a finger on it.

Very astute post.  Happening all over.  Bigger conferences like the Big Ten, Pac 12, Big 12 are all launching or have launched digital endeavors to make available lots of things (particularly non-revenue sports) that haven't been available in the past.  Those largely are for-pay services with mid-range TV quality broadcasts.  Then you have the smaller initiatives like the Horizon League Network, which is free for everyone, lower and more varied quality of production, and ad-supported.  HLN has also helped some of these schools, because the games are being produced anyways, it makes it easy for somebody like the CW in Dayton to do a deal with Wright State to pick up the feed and broadcast it locally, as well (they've been working with STO, as well).

Then there are other schools and conferences doing simpler-still streams, like ours, largely as a marketing and engagement tool, the thought being that if you keep alumni and fans engaged by making the content available, they'll be more likely to make return trips to campus to see the teams in person.

Finally, ESPN, I would say (with all my inherent bias noted -- though I thought this long before I had any conflict of interest), is not so much keeping a finger on it as leading the way.  ESPN3 aggregates tons of content that ESPN sublicenses from conferences they own the rights to (like the MAC), and has increased dramatically the amount of original content they're producing in the past year, including many MAC and Big East football games, and a deal with leagues like the Southern Conference for basketball.  The interesting bit about ESPN3 is that it is a dual revenue-stream model, like cable TV, wherein they receive a monthly fee from the ISP, as well as being able to sell advertising around the content.

As the cost to create a low-to-mid quality broadcast drops, I expect you'll continue to see growth in this area, as more and more events become viable profit creators.
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Maybe a good Bracketbuster match up will get us on the big channel.
This is our best bet for getting an additional, compelling game televised.  However, it won't get you on ESPN.  The slots for the BracketBusters break down as follows: 7 games on ESPN2, 4 on ESPNU, and 2 on ESPN3.
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Posted: 12/24/2011 4:26 PM
Norris you are killing me.....it s lke we have seen you go from wide eyed freshie to a seasoned professional right before our eyes.....Good stuff. Very well done.
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Posted: 12/25/2011 12:45 AM
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Norris you are killing me.....it s lke we have seen you go from wide eyed freshie to a seasoned professional right before our eyes.....Good stuff. Very well done.
Haha, appreciate it!  Think I chose the right field?
Last Edited: 12/25/2011 12:45:39 AM by anorris
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Posted: 12/25/2011 11:26 AM
Maybe Dick Vitale helped.  He posted this on ESPN's website on Wednesday:

"Santa, how about some national exposure for a few coaches doing a super job. They don't get enough ink, baby! Guys like Gregg Marshall at Wichita State, John Groce at Ohio University and Gary Waters at Cleveland State should get more publicity."

Yes, he needs to learn that "Ohio" is enough.

http://espn.go.com/espn/dickvitale/story/_/id/7376447/dick-vitale-hands-christmas-gifts-college-basketball
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