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Posted: 1/23/2012 12:52 PM
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Well I've never been amused by anything I've ever viewed on WOUB in my life, so I guess we are even.


HURRRRRRR

Please leave here and go be a fan of some other team.

The court-storming was the stupidest of all the ones I've ever known, and I do keep a catalogue of these things.


Great to know the head of the fan police is here. Please tell me everything about being a fan. I'd hate to disappoint you and be called stupid. Oh man, what a tragedy. I'm devastated. 
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Posted: 1/23/2012 1:53 PM
In my honest opinion, the Ozone just needs to learn to stay in tempo.  95% of the time, there are five or six different speeds going on during the chants and it just sounds like crap.  Stay in time, take a cue from the band and cheerleaders who have a pretty good grasp on that.  It really does sound a million times better when everything is cohesive.  Slow it down, keep it in sync.  The chants don't need to be FAST to be EFFECTIVE.  

The numbers are there for the Ozone, people just need to work together to make our house more intimidating.  And that means getting all the creative ones together in the same area and going from there.  

Just my two cents.  
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Posted: 1/23/2012 2:19 PM
I don't want dead quiet at a game.  I go to Cleveland for a few Cavs games each year. Talk about anything but the game! Two DJs rattling on non-stop, games at every break in the action, cheerleaders, male dance team, female dance team, quiz games, kiss cam, shooting t-shirts-then hot dogs-then mini basketballs, a model zeppelin flies around the arena and drops little pieces of paper where a few are worth a pizza- blasting music so that there is not one moment of quiet and you can never converse with the person on either side of you for the din. They used to stop the music when the action started but not anymore. They play it until the ball crosses half court. Then, strolling through the concourse will remind you of hucksters every five feet hawking their wares like a middle eastern bazaar. Oh by the way, Cavs lost if you remembered that a game was even played. I realize that I'm not their demographic and they don't market to me, but it seems like they don't even want you to watch the game.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 7:15 PM
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In my honest opinion, the Ozone just needs to learn to stay in tempo.  95% of the time, there are five or six different speeds going on during the chants and it just sounds like crap.  Stay in time, take a cue from the band and cheerleaders who have a pretty good grasp on that.  It really does sound a million times better when everything is cohesive.  Slow it down, keep it in sync.  The chants don't need to be FAST to be EFFECTIVE. 


Been saying that for years... moving the cheerleaders has really hurt.
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Posted: 1/23/2012 8:37 PM
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Been saying that for years... moving the cheerleaders has really hurt.


I can only imagine. With them in their old spot with the O Zone, the tendency to progressively speed up the chants was pretty consistent as it was.


Bball Jones wrote:expand_more
Let the kids have fun!! Too many old guys wanting to impose their thoughts and ideas on others.  No harm, no foul IMO!!


Well, it is a message board
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Posted: 1/23/2012 9:50 PM
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Let me add one more thing to JSF's comment about it's "sportz". It's anything but sports when you go to a game today. The only time you get to see just a game and not all the circus sideshows is a sandlot game at your local park, which is what I actually prefer these days.


Not what I meant. This is what I meant.

- I do believe Donuts is a former OU athlete, so...

- Yes, the "bounce, bounce, pass" cheer is old and needs to be at least used less... but... it's not like the O Zone is starting other cheers instead.
Good stuff - thanks for the link
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Posted: 1/23/2012 11:16 PM
We need to stop being so harsh on the O Zone, and be thankful for what we have. 

I just got back from the UC vs. Syracuse game tonight. Big Monday, on ESPN, sellout, former #1 team in the country in the house. 

Both "endzones" were full of students for UC, but 70% of them barely made any noise. The only noise the student sections made all night was "ohhhhhh" and the occasional "defense" and even those were pretty weak. 




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Posted: 1/24/2012 11:56 AM
Haven't been able to make a game since Robert Morris due to work/school scheduling conclusion.  But I wondered when the table would get in the way of a stampede of students.
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Posted: 1/24/2012 3:55 PM
You know what NOT amusing?

Telling people to stop having fun.

Rush the court.

Run on the court when we beat Miami by 30, 1, 3, 10, 12. Have fun. Be young.

If the mass media in the Sports' analysisphere has had any negative impression on our viewing of sports it begins with their nerdy rule writing about when and how much fun we should have at sporting events.

There are many places to be stoic and humble...beating Miami is NOT one of them.
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Posted: 1/24/2012 4:53 PM

I think they should do it EVERY. SINGLE. WIN. (but I do think they should come around the sides and not jump over anyone)

It shows camaraderie between the players and the fans. The Ozone really is the best 6th man in the MAC and it's great when they take ownership of that title.

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Posted: 1/24/2012 11:11 PM
Okay.  This is sort of embarrsing.  After all, redhawk is not that good and I feel that we should've beaten them rather soundly.

But when we came back to win on Gary Trent Day, I stormed my living room.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:35 PM
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The opportunity was there for the Ozone. sold out crowd, Miami, Trent and a thrilling win. Imagine if Charlie Coles had one upped the O-zone and pulled a Roy Williams and pulled his boys off the floor with a few seconds left to play for fear of the students trampling what remains of his roster.  The refs would have laughed at Charlie saying "you think they are gonna rush the court beating your 5-12 team".  Charlie would have told them..."You don't now the Ozone like I do. My last game here, Trent, packed house.....They gonna rush the dog gone court. Bet the house they rush the court.  I wished all three of our fans rushed the court when we beat Buffalo last week in Oxford"   



^ I chortled mightily at this, lol.

I personally am not against court storming.  At the same time, hearing about our storming the court against THIS Miami team, just makes me raise an eyebrow.  Like, what was the purpose really?  We were supposed to beat that team.  And b4 I get too far along, I am also amused by the occasional TD celebration.  But it better be good dammit, lol.

If I'm supposed to beat you (on paper), regardless of the way I did it = no court storming.  But no seriously, if the records were reversed and we won a close game.  Okay, that would make sense.  Storming the court against this Miami team is akin to a touchdown celebration, when your team is losing by 3TD's in the 4th qtr.  Well maybe not that bad, but you get the point hopefully.

I'm all for a loud raucous crowd.  Especially comprised of students, some of whom sound as though they had never attended a game in the Convo (which is even better).  But c'mon, they're 5-12, 1-4 in conference  .




 
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Posted: 1/25/2012 12:40 PM
Slimmy da'Bobcat wrote:expand_more
I'm all for a loud raucous crowd.  Especially comprised of students, some of whom sound as though they had never attended a game in the Convo (which is even better).  But c'mon, they're 5-12, 1-4 in conference  .




 


They are also FIAMI.  And sorry it's not like a touchdown dance when you are down three TDs. It's like a TD dance when you are up three TDs...against FIAMI.  Everything is acceptable against them.  It doesn't matter if we are supposed to beat them or not.  It won't happen tonight.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 1:11 PM
It sends a message that we are small time. Spin it any way you want, that there are no rules about having fun, etc. etc.

Let's say it's John Havlicek Day in Columbus and OSU is playing a 4-12 Michigan squad and squeeks out a win. They storm the court and you read about it or see it on ESPN. What do you think? That's what I thought.
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Posted: 1/25/2012 4:40 PM
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It sends a message that we are small time. Spin it any way you want, that there are no rules about having fun, etc. etc.

Let's say it's John Havlicek Day in Columbus and OSU is playing a 4-12 Michigan squad and squeeks out a win. They storm the court and you read about it or see it on ESPN. What do you think? That's what I thought.


I think I don't care. Let them do whatever they want. Is that really what you thought? "Big time" schools have students storm the court when they beat a team LOWER than them in the standings or rankings. Are they "small time"? Was Duke "small time" when they rushed the court after beating Virginia Freaking Tech a few years ago?
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Posted: 1/25/2012 7:03 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
It sends a message that we are small time. Spin it any way you want, that there are no rules about having fun, etc. etc.

Let's say it's John Havlicek Day in Columbus and OSU is playing a 4-12 Michigan squad and squeeks out a win. They storm the court and you read about it or see it on ESPN. What do you think? That's what I thought.


What it tells me is there a way too many people that take themselves and sports way too seriously.   Who gives a flying eff what anybody else thinks?  And I'm being completely serious.  The only thing I think is important was the huge smile on Reggie Keely and Nick Kellogg's faces. 
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Posted: 2/19/2012 5:02 PM
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Well I've never been amused by anything I've ever viewed on WOUB in my life, so I guess we are even.


Well, that's actually a good thing, because last time I checked WOUB's goal is not to be amusing, it's to provide news to the southeastern Ohio region and give experience to aspiring student journalists.

And for the record, there really is no reason to have put the Black seats in front of the O-Zone. They haven't done it in years past, so what kind of genius came up with the idea and why did he choose this year to do it? I respect the fact that the Bobcat Black patrons give our program money, but is it imperative that they be seated in front of the student section? No, it really isn't. And if they have a problem with the O-Zone's behavior, it could be worse: they could direct their insults at you. 
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Posted: 2/19/2012 6:15 PM
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Well I've never been amused by anything I've ever viewed on WOUB in my life, so I guess we are even.


Well, that's actually a good thing, because last time I checked WOUB's goal is not to be amusing, it's to provide news to the southeastern Ohio region and give experience to aspiring student journalists.

And for the record, there really is no reason to have put the Black seats in front of the O-Zone. They haven't done it in years past, so what kind of genius came up with the idea and why did he choose this year to do it? I respect the fact that the Bobcat Black patrons give our program money, but is it imperative that they be seated in front of the student section? No, it really isn't. And if they have a problem with the O-Zone's behavior, it could be worse: they could direct their insults at you. 


Are your questions serious?

a. Those seats didn't exist before
b. The athletic department did hours of research on where exactly to put those seats. The other options included putting them in front of the team benches, in front of the scorer's table, or really surprising our fans by putting them on the catwalk. As I understand it, the vote was very very close.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 7:43 PM
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Well, that's actually a good thing, because last time I checked WOUB's goal is not to be amusing, it's to provide news to the southeastern Ohio region and give experience to aspiring student journalists.


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Posted: 2/19/2012 9:01 PM
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Well I've never been amused by anything I've ever viewed on WOUB in my life, so I guess we are even.


Well, that's actually a good thing, because last time I checked WOUB's goal is not to be amusing, it's to provide news to the southeastern Ohio region and give experience to aspiring student journalists.

And for the record, there really is no reason to have put the Black seats in front of the O-Zone. They haven't done it in years past, so what kind of genius came up with the idea and why did he choose this year to do it? I respect the fact that the Bobcat Black patrons give our program money, but is it imperative that they be seated in front of the student section? No, it really isn't. And if they have a problem with the O-Zone's behavior, it could be worse: they could direct their insults at you. 


Are your questions serious?

a. Those seats didn't exist before
b. The athletic department did hours of research on where exactly to put those seats. The other options included putting them in front of the team benches, in front of the scorer's table, or really surprising our fans by putting them on the catwalk. As I understand it, the vote was very very close.


They didn't need those seats and by and large, they weren't purchased.  It's an endless cast of characters occupying those seats (no offense to anyone who actually bought the seats).  It's basically who can they parade down there to occupy those seats.  And as anyone who has sat there will tell you, other than the seats behind the roller board, those seats suck unless you enjoy looking at the backside of a ref.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 10:10 PM
I purchased 4 seats and have sat in them every game except one. The officials are rarely in my line of sight. I wrote a large check for the right to purchase them, as did everyone else in those seats. It is extra revenue for the athletic department that was not there last year. That is the reason those seats are there. Every major program in the nation has seats like these.

Overall, I would say the OZone is fine as a whole, but there a several individuals that rub me the wrong way. I'm amazed at this point in the season how uninformed some of our student section is. We are asked to sit down during the beginning of each half by the students in the front row even though everyone in the Convo is standing for defense. The irony is the students stand the entire game. Is it too early in the season for our student section to know who the players on the team are? I was also unimpressed with the dip*hit in the front row during the BG game taunting Reggie Keely the entire 40 minutes. I can't understand why a fan would relentlessly taunt one of your own team's starters. I hope Reggie heard him and finds him on campus some time after the season.

Bottom line is this regarding the student section: I have maintained for years that OU has the best student section. As a whole they are very good. There are some individuals that have lost my respect. The students have a right to be idiots, but I think a greater responsibility to help the Convo be a tough environment. Some of the behavior does not reflect well of Ohio University. I watched the ESPN3 replay this morning. As an alum, I was not especially proud of what I could clearly hear on the broadcast. I can see a point in the future where the OZone is put on a shorter leash with the administration. I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Posted: 2/19/2012 11:10 PM
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I purchased 4 seats and have sat in them every game except one. The officials are rarely in my line of sight. I wrote a large check for the right to purchase them, as did everyone else in those seats. It is extra revenue for the athletic department that was not there last year. That is the reason those seats are there. Every major program in the nation has seats like these.

Overall, I would say the OZone is fine as a whole, but there a several individuals that rub me the wrong way. I'm amazed at this point in the season how uninformed some of our student section is. We are asked to sit down during the beginning of each half by the students in the front row even though everyone in the Convo is standing for defense. The irony is the students stand the entire game. Is it too early in the season for our student section to know who the players on the team are? I was also unimpressed with the dip*hit in the front row during the BG game taunting Reggie Keely the entire 40 minutes. I can't understand why a fan would relentlessly taunt one of your own team's starters. I hope Reggie heard him and finds him on campus some time after the season.

Bottom line is this regarding the student section: I have maintained for years that OU has the best student section. As a whole they are very good. There are some individuals that have lost my respect. The students have a right to be idiots, but I think a greater responsibility to help the Convo be a tough environment. Some of the behavior does not reflect well of Ohio University. I watched the ESPN3 replay this morning. As an alum, I was not especially proud of what I could clearly hear on the broadcast. I can see a point in the future where the OZone is put on a shorter leash with the administration. I hope it doesn't come to that.


Aaron, where you sit behind the advertisement board isn't where officials normally set up.  I'm talking about the black seats to your right and on the baseline.  Those are very often obstructed by an official.  As for the folks sitting in the latter set of seats, many did not pay for those.  They've been asked to occupy those so that they appear full.  Different folks are in those seats every game.

As for the Ozone, I'm with you on that and am in the process of setting up a meeting with some of them to address what can best be described as profanity laden behavior.  Do the research on players girlfriends and the like but get rid of the cursing.  It's starting to get real old.


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Posted: 2/19/2012 11:18 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
As for the Ozone, I'm with you on that and am in the process of setting up a meeting with some of them to address what can best be described as profanity laden behavior.  Do the research on players girlfriends and the like but get rid of the cursing.  It's starting to get real old.


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Posted: 2/19/2012 11:39 PM
Alan, I have two of those seats but, living distant in L.A., have yet to be able to use them.  So, others get them.  Such purchases could explain much of your 'constantly changing cast of characters.'

In Las Vegas, I sat first row about six seats off the baseline to see the 'Cats play Kansas and Santa Clara.  Then, to see Kansas play Arizona (in which it took about four minutes to be wowed by Derrick Williams).  A ref obscued the view occasionally a bit.  But those seats were tasty.  Why do you think they carry the heftiest price?
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Posted: 2/20/2012 10:47 AM
Not sure where Alan got the info about the Black seats, but a very good percentage of the available seats were sold. Yes, there are different people in them, often because some of us can't attend every game.

I have two seats beneath the basket and they are excellent - a great viewing experience.  And every seat on the baseline was sold for the season.


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