The athletic department will listen to bobcat695.  I suspect next year there will much influencing of ozone language. 

I don't mind the occaisional "bullshit" cheer.  But, what we hear now is just not funny, is lacking in intelligence, and is just plain dumb.

What happened to staying home and watching the Oscars???

Joking aside, I agree that the a$$hole chant is too much. And anyone who is swearing at our own players on our own court or hasseling them doesn't belong in the OZone, or really, in the Convo at all.

Never said I was staying home but my wife, daughter and two grand kids did.  A friend in Toledo mentioned all of the empty seats on tv.

But, the point of this thread is the profanity.  When I said I would grab a few folks and head over there, I was serious but I would have done it in this fashion.  I'm a big chain of command guy, so my first conversation would have been with an usher.  From there it would have been OUPD then Jim Schaus.  I agree with 695, there's no need to threaten contributions or tickets but if enough like minded people express the feeling that the profanity has gotten out of hand, Schaus will make sure it stops.  Believe me when I say it is a huge source of embarrassment for him and for McDavis.

Probably the quickest way to put an end to it would be for John Groce to simply address it with them.  I'm not talking about taking the mic in the middle of the game although that would be quite effective and would get a tremendous cheer from the crowd.

The home season is over so hopefully between now and next year the few knuckleheads move on or the department addresses it.

And finally, whether you want to admit it or not, employers aren't real quick to hire this type of person.  I've passed on at least four of five of them in the last few years in my hiring decisions.

Too many students imitating Tucker Max.

Coming soon: an indepth report of every court appearance, traffic ticket, parking ticket, and ResLife right-up for every member of the O-Zone?

Count me as one who is disappointed by the lack of creativity that results in shouting A%$HOLE at the top of your lungs.  Sure, you're entitled to do it- just like you're entitled to walk into a job interview with your shirt unbuttoned and tails out.  The reason you shouldn't do it?  Because you would like to be taken seriously in life.

While we're on this general topic, however, I mostly want say that my greatest disappointment Sunday was hearing the entire O-Zone chanting "Your School Sucks" in the direction of the Zips students.  Really?  That's what you get from an athletic rivalry?  Again, creativity tops crudeness and cruelty every time.  This stuff is not worthy of the Ozone's legacy.

You're awfully high and mighty, and often try to look like quite a know-it-all considering how often you're just flat wrong.  At least four years.  And that's been discussed here before.  And yes, he did bring it up to the people doing it then.  On more than one occasion.
Ooooh, that trashy gangster music.  Seriously.  I don't care for much hip hop, just musically not my thing, but I always find this kind of thing amusing.  Oh, look at that rebel Elvis and how he shakes his hips!  This happens every generation, it is what it is.  Not sure you'll find much different at Marshall or Kent.  You might like Miami, there won't be anybody there to bother your nice quiet basketball experience.
That's a flat lie.
Yes indeedy, I'm sure we're all stupider as an entire generation than in 1960 when more than a quarter of high school students dropped out.

Honestly, people yelling at our own players ought to be dealt with and the rest left alone.  Nobody is threatening anyone, etc.  I find your sweeping post about my generation here more offensive than any word that has been thrown out during a game.  I'm not saying I would be sad if it stopped, but honestly, this is a prototypical generation-gap type of thing, and such things have been going on forever.

Self-righteousness, subtle racism, ageism, and insistence upon false facts. A masterpiece.

I finally figured out who they are chanting at now!

Well played, sir.

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Sniping aside, I'd like to say something honestly.

Complaining about the O Zone has been happening for years. Complaints about profanity and uncreativity have happened as long as the board existed. Every year, we hear how the O Zone isn't creative anymore, how they resort to saying profane and stupid things, how it's declining in quality. But it seems like there's a collective amnesia going on because, again, these things are said every year. Three years ago, people were saying the same things as they were now. The only difference now is that three years ago was the Good Old Days. (I will admit that this year really is bad. Everyone seems to agree on this.)

I've been around for the majority of the O Zone's existence. I would like to know when the golden era of only creative, unprofane chants was because I don't recall witnessing it. There have always been childish things going on in the O Zone. There have always been inappropriate chants. There have always been uncreative things. But there have always been creative things, too, and they stick out more than anything else in our selective memories.

Some of my friends here can back me on this: A lot of the worst stuff you guys never heard because we were able to cut it off. Do we approve of the %#^hole chant? No, and most of us didn't participate. But we also knew we had to pick our battles and exercise our leadership judiciously. We know a losing battle when we see one. That's what I said in the first post of this thread: You're fighting a losing battle. That's not saying you should be OK with it, it's saying you need to recognize it's not going away anytime soon and there isn't much you can do about it. Does it suck? Yeah, it does.

Also, 695 outlined things that are far worse in my mind and his post isn't getting enough attention.

For what it is worth, we had the same battles 30 years ago when I was the head of the Crazy Cats - a forerunner of the O-Zone.  You are always going to have students directing the f-bomb at a ref or opposing player - which to me is over the line - it becomes personal then.  But it happens when I go to Panther games here as well - and it is not college students. 

That said, the vast majority do not, will not, and will even tell the guilty party to cool it, but good luck with that.  I will also venture that most on this board at some time in their college career did in fact yell f@ck Miami" at the end of the little ditty after "stand up and cheer" - come on....you know you did - Hell, I did it at my wedding - along with the Ohio table.

Based on my experience, the only person that can cap things like this is the coach.  We would have sat in silence had Nee told us.  Of course Nee wanted us as rowdy as possible - which caused issues inside the athletic department.  Much of this comes with student sections.  And yes, Duke can be as bad, as is UNC - in fact UNC has moved the students around in an attempt to control it.

Wow, when and why did this happen?