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Posted: 3/14/2012 2:59 AM
Regardless of what we think..we are getting BIG TIME PUB thanks in part to Brady Hoke and his joke against OSU. 
http://annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-coach-brady-hoke-says-ohio-not-disrespectful-to-bobcats-wont-stop-using-it/
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Posted: 3/14/2012 7:38 AM
He needs to get a letter from our legal team.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 8:11 AM
I think there isn't much we can do.  It pretty clearly is disprestful.  He says the refers to us as "The Bobcats," which goes to show where his priorties are.  He thinks Universities exist for the sake of sports.  If I apply for a job and the ask me where I got my Bachelor's Degree and everyone assumes because of jerks like him that "Ohio" and "Ohio State" both mean Ohio State am I supposed to say that I attended "the Bobcats?"  Then ask how is it noe disrespectful.

If a member of the Post ever gets a chance to ask him a question I hope that is what they ask.

Where the legal team teams to get involved is when Michigan fan bloggers write things like "Ohio placed on Football probation."  That's libel.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 8:42 AM
Actually if you read the article he says "Ohio University" and "The Bobcats". He actually calls it like it says on your university web site "Ohio University" at the very top where it says "Ohio University". He has been calling Ohio State "Ohio" for along time (over 40 years) so it isn't something new. It is new to most because he is the head coach at Michigan now.

Also you cannot make somebody just say "Ohio" for your university ... sorry it was a state first (which I live in) before it was ever a college so you cannot sue somebody for saying the word "Ohio". Also hard to sue somebody when he says actually what your college recognized as "Ohio University" and your mascot is the Bobcat.

Anytime somebody says "Ohio" they could mean several things such as the state, the river, the college, etc.

Like the original post stated it is getting you a lot more pub than ever and people might start thinking there is another college in the state besides the one in the middle of the state -- Ohio State which is a good thing. It would actually be nice if some of the other colleges in the state would raise their level and start competing with Ohio State such as Cincinnati and all the MAC programs.

Looking through many of the posters here you would think some would have a problem with the usernames here as well. I hardly see many that have "Ohio" in them, but I have seen a lot of "OU", "Bobcat", "Cat", etc...

As others have mentioned in previous threads many people who have went there previously still call it "OU". One of our writers for our site went to Ohio University, was a member of the 1970 baseball team and he says when they have their alumni gatherings that everybody calls it "OU".

Your getting a lot of pub about this and probably just as much as your last incident that made the news

Ohio University Bobcat, took off on a dead run from the 15-yard line and tackled Ohio State's Brutus Buckeye  Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/09/23/mascot-wars/index.html#ixzz1p5rAF2q8

Was looking at some of the stories getting some information from the official "University of Ohio" web page and found this interesting. Are they sending mixed message as well?

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www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031312aac.html

The official Ohio University athletics watch party will be held at Buffalo Wild Wings on Union Street this Friday for the men's basketball team's trip to the NCAA Tournament in Nashville, Tenn.

Come cheer on the Bobcats as they take on Michigan. The watch party begins at 7 p.m. Fans who attend the watch party will be treated to drink specials and prizes.

Team autographed jerseys, basketballs and other fan gear will be raffled off to those in attendance.

The Bobcats punched their ticket to the NCAA Tournament for the second time in three years after it defeated Akron 64-63 in the 2012 MAC Championship title game. Ohio enters the tournament with a school-record 27-7 record, surpassing the previous mark of 25 wins set by the 1993-94 squad.

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Posted: 3/14/2012 8:55 AM
ErocWolverine wrote:expand_more
Also you cannot make somebody just say "Ohio" for your university ...


Actually and legally the name "Ohio" when referring to universities is exclusive to those of us in Athens.

...now if you call us Francis, that's another story...
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:11 AM
OHIO as University legally refers to us.  You can't make statements referring to Ohio State by using Ohio anymore than we can make statements referring  to Michigan State just using Michigan. 
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:12 AM
Wow.  All these years I thought it was just stupid and arrogant O$U fans who couldn't figure out why The Ohio University wanted to be called Ohio.  Now I see Michigan fans are the same thick headed bunch.

It's not about "Bobcats" or "OU."  It's about calling our school by its name, which is Ohio.  I REALLY hope Michigan State starts calling themselves Michigan, since it's petty and all, who cares.

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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:28 AM
It is not about what you call us that irks us.  It is what you call TO$U that irks us.  We don't want you to use OUr name when referring to OUr little brother to the north.  We don't like them any more than you like MSU.  Using OUr name to belittle TO$U is a slap in the face to us.  And telling me that it is not disrespectful is not for you to decide.  It is for us to decide if we are being disrespected.   
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:29 AM
What if it were reversed and Meyer started referring to them as Eastern Michigan? 
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:34 AM
ErocWolverine wrote:expand_more
Anytime somebody says "Ohio" they could mean several things such as the state, the river, the college, etc.


This seems especially ignorant given the person posting goes to a school named after a state with another in state school called "State name" State. 

I'd be curious what Michigan fans would think if Thad Matta started calling Michigan State "Michigan" and insisted on calling the Wolverines "The University of Michigan" instead. 
Last Edited: 3/14/2012 9:48:19 AM by HeHateMiami
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:34 AM
I think the whole thing is bizarre.  The bizarre part is that he says he does it because it irks OSU fans.  I guess I don't get that they care.  Why would they do "O-H-I-O" cheers, while wearing hats with the letter "O" only on them, and get pumped up about a band spelling out "Ohio" in "Ohio" stadium, then get "irked" when he calls them "Ohio"? 

At least it's raising attention to the whole "Ohio" vs "Ohio State" issue, even though he comes off as a juvenile douche.  It's nice to see even some Columbus media refer to us as the "Real Ohio".
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:39 AM
HeHateMiami wrote:expand_more
Anytime somebody says "Ohio" they could mean several things such as the state, the river, the college, etc.


This seems especially ignorant given the person posting goes to a school named after a state with another in school school called "State name" State. 

I'd be curious what Michigan fans would think if Thad Matta started calling Michigan State "Michigan" and insisted on calling the Wolverines "The University of Michigan" instead. 


Well if you look at my profile it clearly states I live in the state of OHIO which is right under my username! I am a Michigan fan.

This is what is kind of funny that people are looking at it for their own perspective. This is something Coach Hoke has been calling Ohio State for more than 40 years. Not something he just made up as the head coach at Michigan.

Also I would think it would be funny if Thad Matta or anybody else started calling "The Wolverines" .. "The University of Michigan" ... since they are the University of Michigan and they are the "Wolverines" ...  ... got yourself a little confused there .
Last Edited: 3/14/2012 9:45:34 AM by ErocWolverine
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:42 AM
Bobcat110 wrote:expand_more
I think the whole thing is bizarre.  The bizarre part is that he says he does it because it irks OSU fans.  I guess I don't get that they care.  Why would they do "O-H-I-O" cheers, while wearing hats with the letter "O" only on them, and get pumped up about a band spelling out "Ohio" in "Ohio" stadium, then get "irked" when he calls them "Ohio"? 


I don't get it either. I can't fathom why it would bother an Ohio State fan in the least.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:45 AM
This was Brady's idea. He must have reasoned that OSU fans would find It demeaning to them because they consider themselves so much better than OHIO. The man is too arrogant and/or stupid to see how it could be disrespectful.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:46 AM
Eroc, none of what you said changes the fact that we are OHIO and osu is ohio STATE. It's only because of osu's arrogance that they have cheers and bands and flags and other crap that can only spell ohio. Will Hoke say "Beat Michigan" when you play Michigan State? You can ramble on all you want about the school's relative national profile, but that's EXACTLY THE SAME THING. If you think that you're different from Michigan State, then you should be supporting this argument wholeheartedly.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:49 AM
Felix wrote:expand_more
This was Brady's idea. He must have reasoned that OSU fans would find It demeaning to them because they consider themselves so much better than OHIO. The man is too arrogant and/or stupid to see how it could be disrespectful.


Yes, he was a mastermind at the age of 10 and knew some day he would be head coach at "The University of Michigan -- Home of the Wolverines" ... lol ... and knew this would not only bother Ohio State fans, but also Ohio University fans as well and create a war between those two schools to finally have a duel of the death in a match of thumb wrestling.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:51 AM
If Hoke REALLY wants to get under the skin of OSU fans, he should refer to OSU as Ohio A&M.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:54 AM
ErocWolverine wrote:expand_more
This was Brady's idea. He must have reasoned that OSU fans would find It demeaning to them because they consider themselves so much better than OHIO. The man is too arrogant and/or stupid to see how it could be disrespectful.


Yes, he was a mastermind at the age of 10 and knew some day he would be head coach at "The University of Michigan -- Home of the Wolverines" ... lol ... and knew this would not only bother Ohio State fans, but also Ohio University fans as well and create a war between those two schools to finally have a duel of the death in a match of thumb wrestling.

He should stop acting like a 10 year old. He was probably a bully then, too.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 9:59 AM
Here's the thing... Hoke being a douche about this... is the one thing that might actually cause me to root for osu next time you guys play. And I've NEVER done that.

As a matter of fact, I just threw up a little in my own mouth.

(Don't throw up in your own mouth. Switch to DirecTV)
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:01 AM
ErocWolverine wrote:expand_more
Yes, he was a mastermind at the age of 10 and knew some day he would be head coach at "The University of Michigan -- Home of the Wolverines" ... lol ... and knew this would not only bother Ohio State fans, but also Ohio University fans as well and create a war between those two schools to finally have a duel of the death in a match of thumb wrestling.


It appears he's selling it and you're buying it...but come on now...you're really picturing little Brady in 3rd grade on a Dayton playground running around "irking" other 3rd graders saying "Ohio Buckeyes..Ohio Buckeyes"  and the other kids actually being irked by this?  Maybe they were just being polite thinking he was a slow learner and saying, "No little Brady, it's The Ohio State Buckeyes."
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:12 AM
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Here's the thing... Hoke being a douche about this...


How by calling your school "Ohio University" and "The Bobcats"?

I wonder how many people actually that go to Ohio University call themselves "Ohio" only?

I am guessing not many.

I am willing to bet most call themselves OU, Ohio University, or Ohio U when asked where they went to school. At least the ones I know say one of those three.

Like I said in my very first post about this yesterday ... to many people are taking this way out of context ... to many people are to sensitive nowadays ... to many people want to be "PC" nowadays.

Think about it this way. If Coach Hoke didn't make those comments this game wouldn't be getting the attention it did for the tournament. People wouldn't be writing articles about it and talking about the game and I am willing to bet it will be brought up within the first five minutes of the telecast as well. Probably be mentioned several times.

Seems like Ohio University is getting a lot of attention over this entire deal especially for a #4 vs. 13 match-up.

Let's stop talking about it and settle it on the court Friday night.

Let's talk about the game which seems to be the farthest thing from most of your minds since there isn't much talk about it here. That is why I came over here in the first place was to talk about the game, but guess people would rather talk about Coach Hoke the football coach at Michigan than about the NCAA Tournament basketball game Ohio University vs. The University of Michigan.
Last Edited: 3/14/2012 10:13:30 AM by ErocWolverine
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:15 AM
ErocWolverine wrote:expand_more
Here's the thing... Hoke being a douche about this...


How by calling your school "Ohio University" and "The Bobcats"?

I wonder how many people actually that go to Ohio University call themselves "Ohio" only?

I am guessing not many.

I am willing to bet most call themselves OU, Ohio University, or Ohio U when asked where they went to school. At least the ones I know say one of those three.

Like I said in my very first post about this yesterday ... to many people are taking this way out of context ... to many people are to sensitive nowadays ... to many people want to be "PC" nowadays.

Think about it this way. If Coach Hoke didn't make those comments this game wouldn't be getting the attention it did for the tournament. People wouldn't be writing articles about it and talking about the game and I am willing to bet it will be brought up within the first five minutes of the telecast as well. Probably be mentioned several times.

Seems like Ohio University is getting a lot of attention over this entire deal especially for a #4 vs. 13 match-up.

Let's stop talking about it and settle it on the court Friday night.

Let's talk about the game which seems to be the farthest thing from most of your minds since there isn't much talk about it here. That is why I came over here in the first place was to talk about the game, but guess people would rather talk about Coach Hoke the football coach at Michigan than about the NCAA Tournament basketball game Ohio University vs. The University of Michigan.


Sounds good Sparty. Break it down for us.
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:24 AM
ErocWolverine -- Come on dude.  The University of Michigan is called just Michigan over and over and over.  And Michigan State is Michigan State.  There's and Ohio, and an Ohio State.  Those are the facts, not opinions.  Its that simple brother.  

I despise Ohio State.  Hate 'em.  I root for Michigan in that game every year.  And, Brady Hoke is jerk and is disrespecting Ohio.  We own the rights to Ohio and we should make him change his stupid sign and hassle him and MIchigan endlessly for any use of Ohio.  


Last Edited: 3/14/2012 10:27:12 AM by Ohio69
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:29 AM
How many times do we have to say it?!?!?!?!?!?!

It is not about what you call us, it is about what you call Ohio State.
It is not about what you call us, it is about what you call Ohio State.
It is not about what you call us, it is about what you call Ohio State.
It is not about what you call us, it is about what you call Ohio State.
It is not about what you call us, it is about what you call Ohio State.

If you respond with another example of how we don't refer to ourselves as Ohio 100% of the time I might vomit.  The point is we call Ohio State "Ohio" 0% of the time!
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:32 AM
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What if it were reversed and Meyer started referring to them as Eastern Michigan? 


And to switch around the posted article, here is what it would sound like if Urban Meyer were doing the same thing:

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Meyer has called the Wolverines "Eastern Michigan" since he was a 10-year-old in Flint, Michigan. He started doing it to irk buddies, who were Wolverine fans, he said. Even then, growing up in the heart of Michigan, he was an Ohio State fan.

 He never gave it up. And, after refusing to use "Michigan" in a news conference after his hiring, it has become more or less institutionalized at Ohio State. "Eastern Michigan" was used on the scoreboards at the Horseshoe and Value City Arena. Fans chant "Let's beat Eastern," rather than the old refrain "Beat Mich -i - gan."
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Would Michigan Fans care? Probably not. But tell me Eastern Michigan wouldn't take that as a slap in the face. I'm going to call you "Eastern Michigan" to irk you?

Eroc, Ohio University hasn't been inconsistant at all about what they request the media refer to us as. The request in our media guide is to refer to us as Ohio or Ohio University, not Ohio U. or O.U. The Bobcats is perfectly acceptable. Fans of opposing teams call us many other names as well. That's all in good fun.

And honestly, I don't really buy the 10 year old story. Mr. Hoke coached at Ball State where he was unsuccessful against Ohio. He knows us well. Calling Ohio State, "Ohio" wouldn't "irk" any 10 year old in Dayton, Ohio.

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