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Bobcat Love
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Posted: 5/22/2012 6:29 PM
Remember her twitter tag when you read the links.

"Sports reporter for Fox8- Cleveland. Proud Ohio University Alum. Goal is to always be challenged. God, family, basketball...that order."

Apparently God gets his or her rocks off from bar fights and bribing law enforcement. This family reminds me of Drop Dead Goregous. Class personified.

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2012/0...

So sick of these religious hypocrites. Another one to the list. Quit hiding behind the religious babble jabble. Just own it.
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Posted: 5/22/2012 8:14 PM
Her boyfriend Joe Smith got into some type of argument/scuffle at a bar.  Her Mom held out a stack of money to a cop.  What did Allie do wrong again?
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Posted: 5/22/2012 8:21 PM
BuddyLee wrote:expand_more
Her boyfriend Joe Smith got into some type of argument/scuffle at a bar.  Her Mom held out a stack of money to a cop.  What did Allie do wrong again?


I would say a sports reporter dating an athlete she covers is a no no, both professionally and ethically.  
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Posted: 5/22/2012 8:45 PM
Okay maybe you can argue there is a professional conflict of interest based on who she is dating, but that was not the tone of the original post.  The original post was an attack on her personal and religious character based on the actions of other people around her.  Don't see the connection.
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Posted: 5/22/2012 8:46 PM

Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
So sick of these religious hypocrites. Another one to the list. Quit hiding behind the religious babble jabble. Just own it.


Own what? That she makes mistakes like all human beings? I'm sure she'd admit to that.

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Posted: 5/22/2012 8:59 PM
Too bad, I had high expectations for her. As far as her career goes shes toast in Cleveland and possibly everywhere else now too. She better stick with Joe and hope his next contract is a big one.
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Posted: 5/22/2012 10:44 PM
Odds Allie Laforce is most well-known Bobcats hoop player in 15 years?
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Posted: 5/22/2012 11:33 PM
Love...I don't know Allie personally, but Ill make the general observation that just because someone casually and generically uses the term "God", that does not mean that the person is a committed religious person. Remember, performers at the awards programs and successful athletes often "thank God" for their success despite the fact that their lives sometimes don't evidence any commitment to God.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 5:48 AM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Love...I don't know Allie personally, but Ill make the general observation that just because someone casually and generically uses the term "God", that does not mean that the person is a committed religious person. Remember, performers at the awards programs and successful athletes often "thank God" for their success despite the fact that their lives sometimes don't evidence any commitment to God.


Oh stop, you're ruining his narrative!
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Posted: 5/23/2012 8:23 AM
And I will add that you have been clear that you think all Christians claim they are perfect morral beings...when in fact the very basis of Christianity is the opposite...That we are all wretched sinners and are saved by a merciful God.  We strive to live up to God's standard but we all fail, without exception.  Any true biblical Christian will tell you that. 
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Posted: 5/23/2012 8:32 AM
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Love...I don't know Allie personally, but Ill make the general observation that just because someone casually and generically uses the term "God", that does not mean that the person is a committed religious person. Remember, performers at the awards programs and successful athletes often "thank God" for their success despite the fact that their lives sometimes don't evidence any commitment to God.


Oh stop, you're ruining his narrative!


And what difference would it make if she were a "committed religious person"?
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Posted: 5/23/2012 8:39 AM
Perhaps it's unfair, but haven't been a fan since she worked at Red Brick and spent more time flirting with basketball and football players than serving drinks.

I'll take my sports news/puff pieces from STO's Katie Witham instead, thanks.

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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:25 AM
Religious or not, this is pretty funny.  Next time I get ID'd at a bar, I'm just going to say I'm a pitcher for the Indians.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:49 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more
Love...I don't know Allie personally, but Ill make the general observation that just because someone casually and generically uses the term "God", that does not mean that the person is a committed religious person. Remember, performers at the awards programs and successful athletes often "thank God" for their success despite the fact that their lives sometimes don't evidence any commitment to God.


Oh stop, you're ruining his narrative!


And what difference would it make if she were a "committed religious person"?



The difference would be that it might possibly lend credence to the "hypocrisy" charge. 
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:01 AM

Except that she, herself, didn't do anything (according to the story). So whether she's religious or not religious, I don't see where she's being hypocritical.

Unless BL is talking about the mom. If so, his post is misleading.

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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:03 AM
Robert Fox wrote:expand_more

Except that she, herself, didn't do anything (according to the story). So whether she's religious or not religious, I don't see where she's being hypocritical.

Unless BL is talking about the mom. If so, his post is misleading.




Good point.  Upsan speaks wisdom. 
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:15 AM
Her offense isn't that she necessarily did anything THAT night.* Her offense is that she (in the admission of her station) is dating someone she's employed to cover. This fails basic journalism ethics. Now, that last statement forces me to admit (at least tacitly) that local TV news is actually journalism, but you get my point. You can't do what she's doing. A reporter from her station was on the radio up here this morning and said - in his defense of her - that nobody knew of the relationship. This makes it even worse. If you feel you must keep it secret, there's something to be said for the perceived ethics of it. Once you add the obvious sexism inherent in sports media and her problems only compound. How can she objectively report on the Indians going forward with everyone knowing that she's dating one of the players? It's wrong, and she should know that.

* That her mom didn't get arrested for what she allegedly did is beyond mystifying. And (again allegedly), THAT is the source of hypocrisy.
Last Edited: 5/23/2012 10:16:47 AM by BobcatJH
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:30 AM
Why is it unethical for a reporter to date an athlete?  As a TV sports reporter, she only does 30 second pieces on the action on the field most of the time anyway.  It's not like she is a federal judge dating a defendant.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:37 AM
Say Joe Smith goes out and gives up 10 runs and she's tasked with reporting objectively on the game and his performance. It's wrong, flat-out.

Adding, a reporter dating an athlete, in the abstract, isn't the issue. A reporter dating an athlete she's paid to cover (and whose team she's paid to cover OBJECTIVELY) is wrong.
Last Edited: 5/23/2012 10:38:50 AM by BobcatJH
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Posted: 5/23/2012 10:46 AM

SOmetimes life's experience teach us.....and we get smarter.

My gramps had 2 sayings I use daily.

"wisdom is based on experience.

Experience is the name we give our mistakes"

the other thing he said right after that was "the only fool in life is the man who don't (sic) learn from his mistakes"

In my profession my residency director taught us about life in a profession....

"don't sh*t where you eat and never dip your pen in company ink"

I hope she comes out better onthe other side of this....

she would be well served by remembering the easiest of all..."if it don't look good on the front page (or evening news in this case) ......Don't do it"

Good Luck Allie you will be better for the experience .....in the bigger game of life this is a small bump...there are people out there doing far worse things daily....but if you choose to live in the public eye your poop can't stink.

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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:08 AM
Love, I know the off-seasons for football/basketball makes for some really boring Attacknews but Good God(pun intended) you've conducted far better "Crusades" than this one!
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:11 AM
With all due respect, it's not a crusade (no pun intended, right?). It's all over the news up here. Rightly or wrongly, it affects our alma mater, so it's a valid story. If you don't think it is, then I never want to hear any stories about player arrests on this site again.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:17 AM
BobcatJH wrote:expand_more
With all due respect, it's not a crusade (no pun intended, right?). It's all over the news up here. Rightly or wrongly, it affects our alma mater, so it's a valid story. If you don't think it is, then I never want to hear any stories about player arrests on this site again.


Ha .....

a portent observation methinks.....
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:30 AM
The news is relevant.  The Love's obvious distaste for "religious types" is not.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 11:32 AM
BobcatJH wrote:expand_more
With all due respect, it's not a crusade (no pun intended, right?). It's all over the news up here. Rightly or wrongly, it affects our alma mater, so it's a valid story. If you don't think it is, then I never want to hear any stories about player arrests on this site again.


How is it affecting OU? I would assume most of the reporting about this story is not including the tidbit that this woman graduated from OU. Is it? How would that info be relevant to the story?
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