The guy has played 60+ more games than Pistol Pete. It's kind of like Jim Brown. What was his per game average? Records today really don't mean much when you consider the number of games played.
You can always argue about opponent strength and all sorts of things. The record for total points is the record for total points. But these other considerations are why we have rate stats and advanced metrics.
Not arguing about anything. Simply stating a fact. College has a defined longevity unlike the pros. Pete could only play 3 years. This guy could play 5. While Davis may eventually be the all time leading scorer, there is more to the story than that. In other words, tell the whole story.
Exactly, just like Roger Maris, there should be an asterisk next to that record. It’s not the same. Of course, Pistol Pete had a father for a coach who had an offense built around feed the ball to my son and let him shoot, but that’ s different story, just like there’s more to Maris’ asterisk than might meet the eye:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-12-15-850...I don't think there is a record on Roger Maris any more. Most records were set with a 162 game schedule so singling out Maris would be silly. But saying the record doesn't tell the whole story is obvious. I can't imagine why anyone would claim otherwise. But my point is that's the case for every record. It doesn't tell the whole story. Do you want to put asterisk on every record that looks like this?
*He played in 17 more games that the second place holder. He missed 4 more games due to injury in his career due to injury than the second place holder. He played more weak completion but the strongest opponents he played were even stronger than the second place holders most difficult opponents. 7 of those extra games were a result of team accomplishments in advancing farther in tournaments rather than rule changes. The starting point guard he played with during his freshman and sophomore years was a very good passer though he missed 17 games one year due to an injury. During his later years he played with a more selfish point guard as also was the case for most of the backups he played with expect the backup during is senior season. He also was assisted by having a SF who was considered a very good passer for the position. The second place holder's coach often played him well into the game during games that were blowouts as was not the case with his coach except for one exception during his junior year. The sight lines for shooting in his home arena are regarded as better than the second place holder and the softness of the rims..............
We could make this billions of words long and still not cover everything. If we want to make this sort of asterisk for every record then go ahead. If not then I don't see why we do it for select ones. But we all know there are differences because we aren't idiots.
But we also can find the record for points per minute, points per game, homeruns in a 154 game season, the school or team record, the league record, all sorts of advanced metrics that take into account rates, and competition and everything else that they can, computer rankings..... But none of it can ever tell the whole story.
But the record for Homeruns in a major professional career is what it is (Oh)
In an MLB career (Bonds)
In an MLB season (Bonds)
In an MLB season with good drug testing (Judge? kind of arbitrary to define exactly what that means. I'd really need a longer description.)
In an AL season (Judge)
In a 154 game season (Ruth)
And so on and so on.
Last Edited: 3/2/2023 1:29:27 PM by Victory