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Posted: 3/8/2013 11:41 PM
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co-champs - does this change things for POY?


I'm pretty sure the voting has already been done.  They announce the women's All-MAC teams today and I could be wrong but I think the voting is all done at the same time.  They just announce them this week and next.


Jason Arkley tweeted early during the game tonight that Zeke's lack of contributions offensively to that point could sway some MAC Player of the Year voters, so from that, I'd gather that voting hasn't been completed yet.
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Posted: 3/8/2013 11:57 PM
The game shouldn't have been as close as the final.  Could Kent play any worse in the final 9 minutes--save for their foul shooting? 
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Posted: 3/9/2013 12:43 AM
As I said before, Akron might appear down but you can't count them out 'til they're beaten. They were down 15 at the half, but pulled within 3 toward the end and could have won tonight without their #1 or #2 PG! Thankfully, the Flashes finally woke up and secured the W. The MACC is still very much up for grabs. If OUr Bobcats should end up in the final against Akron, they will have to play a full, hard 40 minutes and perhaps even OT to put them away. A 20 point lead at some point in the 1st half, or even early in the 2nd half, just means nothing. Go OHIO! 
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Posted: 3/9/2013 1:13 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
co-champs - does this change things for POY?


I'm pretty sure the voting has already been done.  They announce the women's All-MAC teams today and I could be wrong but I think the voting is all done at the same time.  They just announce them this week and next.


Jason Arkley tweeted early during the game tonight that Zeke's lack of contributions offensively to that point could sway some MAC Player of the Year voters, so from that, I'd gather that voting hasn't been completed yet.


If Cooper has a solid game tomorrow, I'd say that the MAC POY is a 50/50 shot for either Zeke or Cooper.  It really depends on the voters though.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:07 AM
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haha we always get under their skin


I can deal with the loss. We showed an extreme amount of fight.

What I cannot deal with is the fact that those Ohio University losers think they've won something, and with a win against Miami tomorrow, will get to hang a banner for sharing the MAC regular season championship with us.

That might be the biggest tragedy of all. Can't beat us in 2 attempts but they sure get to celebrate like they've won something. puke.gif


To be fair, the only one posting anything about us outside of the MAC Tournament is this guy, who has that overdone "guy peeing on (insert here)" graphic as a signature.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:09 AM
Fosslaw wrote:expand_more
As I said before, Akron might appear down but you can't count them out 'til they're beaten. They were down 15 at the half, but pulled within 3 toward the end and could have won tonight without their #1 or #2 PG! Thankfully, the Flashes finally woke up and secured the W. The MACC is still very much up for grabs. If OUr Bobcats should end up in the final against Akron, they will have to play a full, hard 40 minutes and perhaps even OT to put them away. A 20 point lead at some point in the 1st half, or even early in the 2nd half, just means nothing. Go OHIO! 


Agreed.  After watching their second half against Kent, I'm just as worried as I was before Abreau was out.  Then again, they had a great home atmosphere behind them.  I'll be interested to see what happens when they have several thousand Bobcat fans in the house against them.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:19 AM
l really don't see how Betancourt is going to handle playing 2 nights in a row in the tourney when he couldn't make it thru one game last night.

That said, Akron is still dangerous team. And Kent is even more dangerous. OUr team needs to take care of business.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:36 AM
BlockedPunt wrote:expand_more
haha we always get under their skin


I can deal with the loss. We showed an extreme amount of fight.

What I cannot deal with is the fact that those Ohio University losers think they've won something, and with a win against Miami tomorrow, will get to hang a banner for sharing the MAC regular season championship with us.

That might be the biggest tragedy of all. Can't beat us in 2 attempts but they sure get to celebrate like they've won something. puke.gif


Kind of a douchey post.

CO champs are co champs. YOu are probablyone fothe douches that thought Indiana cutting the nets after a loss was a travesty. They stil are co champs and had the same number of losses as their other co champs.

I am not a big fan of being conference champs as very few people outside the U remember who won the conference but EVERYone remember who went to the round of 16 in 2012 and beat G Town in 2010 ...and a lot more han most think will remember who got stepped on in the first round of the NIT.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:44 AM
UpSan Bobcat wrote:expand_more
co-champs - does this change things for POY?


I'm pretty sure the voting has already been done.  They announce the women's All-MAC teams today and I could be wrong but I think the voting is all done at the same time.  They just announce them this week and next.


Jason Arkley tweeted early during the game tonight that Zeke's lack of contributions offensively to that point could sway some MAC Player of the Year voters, so from that, I'd gather that voting hasn't been completed yet.


I stand corrected then. That's some pretty solid evidence I'm wrong.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 8:48 AM
bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
haha we always get under their skin


I can deal with the loss. We showed an extreme amount of fight.

What I cannot deal with is the fact that those Ohio University losers think they've won something, and with a win against Miami tomorrow, will get to hang a banner for sharing the MAC regular season championship with us.

That might be the biggest tragedy of all. Can't beat us in 2 attempts but they sure get to celebrate like they've won something. puke.gif


Kind of a douchey post.

CO champs are co champs. YOu are probablyone fothe douches that thought Indiana cutting the nets after a loss was a travesty. They stil are co champs and had the same number of losses as their other co champs.

I am not a big fan of being conference champs as very few people outside the U remember who won the conference but EVERYone remember who went to the round of 16 in 2012 and beat G Town in 2010 ...and a lot more han most think will remember who got stepped on in the first round of the NIT.


I think he was quoting a post from the Zips board.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:12 AM
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH 

sorry abut that


still a douchey post from the Alron poster but apologies to BP. Read it like he had flipped to the dark side and was pulling double duty like a couple of our other posters.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:43 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
co-champs - does this change things for POY?


I'm pretty sure the voting has already been done. They announce the women's All-MAC teams today and I could be wrong but I think the voting is all done at the same time. They just announce them this week and next.


Jason Arkley tweeted early during the game tonight that Zeke's lack of contributions offensively to that point could sway some MAC Player of the Year voters, so from that, I'd gather that voting hasn't been completed yet.


I stand corrected then. That's some pretty solid evidence I'm wrong.
Here is Arkley's tweet: (at least the one I saw)
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Abreu absence also offers potential flaw for MAC PotY voters who leaned Marshall's way. He's been fairly absent on offensive end
He wrote 'leaned' not 'leaning' which makes it sound to me like the vote has taken place.

#MACPotYConclave
Last Edited: 3/9/2013 9:44:50 AM by Scott Woods
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Posted: 3/9/2013 9:59 AM
'kron's habit of falling way behind before a comeback--can't see that working in tough, tense tournament game given the losses of Abreu, Kretzer.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 10:08 AM
Kretzer played against Kent, and didnt show any effects of the issues he was having.  He played pretty well last night, but nothing like his game in the Convo.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 10:50 AM
Akron's offense looked really bad last night. They were only able to get close because of rebounding and some generous calls. A week isn't nearly long enough to get ready.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 11:23 AM
Betancourt looked like one of those fainting goats when their legs lock up.
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Posted: 3/9/2013 11:27 AM
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Akron's offense looked really bad last night. They were only able to get close because of rebounding and some generous calls. A week isn't nearly long enough to get ready.


and short of IV fluids is not enough time to get a frosh PG to respond to 2 nights in a row carrying the load. . Coop had some similar problems early on with cramps.

DO I think Kron can figure out a different scheme the Butler has had to do with the loss of Chrishawn Hopkins....yeah I do ....I think they have enough coaching smarts and player talent to turn that offense inside out and have different guys handling the ball successfully. McAdams and Kruetzer hitting shots really gives them complimentary weapons to Zeke, Hrney and Treadwell that takes a lot of pressure off the primary PG if they move the ball and use passes and run the ofense in the absence of a true ball handler.

Kent really tweaked their ofense inthe first half to keep zeke high on D (no pun intended) and clear out the entire key and baseline free of his presence. Why they went away from that in the second half and reverted to undisciplined forays into traffic is beyond me.....Sendy looked like he was Coach of the year in te first half and then reverted to himelf pissing down his leg like someone else I know in the 2nd.
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Posted: 3/10/2013 12:05 AM
I attribute my sentiments to never having been a college basketball player and  I really don't understand, but....


This week I stood on my feet 8 hours on a hard restaurant floor, went straight to running a 10 mile hill workout and then did a 75 P90X Workout of Legs/Abs--and I'm in my mid-40's and have beat up legs from having run 40-70 miles a week for the last 25 years.

How in the world does an 18-19 year old who plays basketball all the time not be able to make it through 20 minutes of hoops without his legs giving out on him?  Especially considering we're 95% into the season, he's been practicing all year and it's not like his legs are beat up from the rigors of a long season? 
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Posted: 3/10/2013 10:33 AM
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How in the world does an 18-19 year old who plays basketball all the time not be able to make it through 20 minutes of hoops without his legs giving out on him?  Especially considering we're 95% into the season, he's been practicing all year and it's not like his legs are beat up from the rigors of a long season? 


GOod question and I am sure one of our esteeemed physiologists can come up withthe right answer. COmbinations of fast twitch fibers, glycogen stores, mitochondrial efficiencies and personal eating and hydration habits all at play here.

Sounds like a good doctoral thesis.

The game is wholly different than endurance event and truly conditionis different from coach to coach. YOu and I competing in Cross Country, Triathlons and endurance events understand what we were doing every workout and all about building base milage and anaerobic fitness. These kids do whatever they can to get out of running and the personal invesment in getting in shape is not as big. WHen groce came the kids were put through an off season conditioning program they had never seen before. I remember Tommy saying "why is that every coach I play for seems to thnk we are a track team?" . His only year that he did not have a coach like that was under TOS. Mike was agreat strength a nd conditioning coach and continues to be at Uof I. They had the room stocked with Muscle Milk, Fruit and lots and lots of fluids.

I can not speak for Akron and how they condition athletes but hoopers have a whole different idea of how they whould be getting inshape as opposed to those of us who grew up in endurance events or played for a coach who thought Cross Country and track were they ideal way to get and keep players in shape. I suspect as we keep the game moving toward more strength training it wil be at the expense of aerobic conditioning.
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