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Posted: 1/12/2013 10:26 PM
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I figured we should go-ahead and pin this thread to keep track of DJ's climb up the all-time assist leader list.

Player, Team Ht. Season Yrs. G Ast.

Bobby Hurley, Duke .......................................................... 6-0 1993 4 140 1,076
Chris Corchiani, North Carolina St. ............................ 6-1 1991 4 124 1,038
Ed Cota, North Carolina................................................... 6-2 2000 4 138 1,030
Keith Jennings, East Tenn. St. ....................................... 5-7 1991 4 127 983
Steve Blake, Maryland ...................................................... 6-3 2003 4 138 972
Sherman Douglas, Syracuse.......................................... 6-0 1989 4 138 960
Tony Miller, Marquette ..................................................... 6-0 1995 4 123 956
Aaron Miles, Kansas .......................................................... 6-1 2005 4 138 954
Greg Anthony, Portland/UNLV ..................................... 6-1 1991 4 138 950
Doug Gottlieb, Notre Dame/Oklahoma St. ........... 6-1 2000 4 124 947
Gary Payton, Oregon St. ................................................ 6-2 1990 4 120 939
D.J. Cooper....................................................................6-0 2013 4 143 934
Orlando Smart, San Francisco ...................................... 6-0 1994 4 116 902
Andre LaFleur, Northeastern......................................... 6-3 1987 4 128 894
Chico Fletcher, Arkansas St. .......................................... 5-6 2000 4 114 893
Jim Les, Bradley ................................................................... 5-11 1986 4 118 884
Frank Smith, Old Dominion ........................................... 6-0 1988 4 120 883
Scott Machado, Iona ......................................................... 6-1 2012 4 132 880
Taurence Chisholm, Delaware ...................................... 5-7 1988 4 110 877
Grayson Marshall, Clemson ........................................... 6-2 1988 4 122 857
Anthony Manuel, Bradley............................................... 5-11 1989 4 108 855
Pooh Richardson, UCLA .................................................. 6-1 1989 4 122 833
Chris Thomas, Notre Dame ............................................ 6-1 2005 4 128 833
Butch Moore, SMU ............................................................ 5-10 1986 4 125 828
Ronald Moore, Siena ........................................................ 6-0 2010 4 135 823
Chris Duhon, Duke ............................................................ 6-1 2004 4 144 819
Johnathon Jones, Oakland ............................................ 5-11 2010 4 135 819
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:05 PM
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It's interesting how many of the guys on the list are from the late-1980s and early 1990s.

It really was a golden age for basketball at the pro and college levels...even just stylistically.

Then the Pistons had to ruin it.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:31 PM
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It was before so many guys were leaving after one or two college seasons.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:55 PM
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We need a DJ Dime Night promotion as he climbs up this list. Pick a random Wednesday night game (EMU would be a good candidate). Sell upper bowl tickets for $.10 and give everyone a coupon to buy any concession item for $.10. There could be big dime cutouts in the OZone and someone could man a DJ's Dime Meter, adding a dime for each assist, similar to the strikeout meters at baseball games.
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Posted: 1/12/2013 11:59 PM
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No doubt his jersey should hang in the rafters. Imagine if him and Trent were together here at the same time. 
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Posted: 1/13/2013 12:16 AM
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No doubt his jersey should hang in the rafters. Imagine if him and Trent were together here at the same time. 


If those 2 were on the same team, we may be a national championship contender. That would be an unbelievable squad...wow!
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Posted: 1/13/2013 9:52 AM
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Tyler wrote:expand_more
We need a DJ Dime Night promotion as he climbs up this list. Pick a random Wednesday night game (EMU would be a good candidate). Sell upper bowl tickets for $.10 and give everyone a coupon to buy any concession item for $.10. There could be big dime cutouts in the OZone and someone could man a DJ's Dime Meter, adding a dime for each assist, similar to the strikeout meters at baseball games.


It would also be good to accept donations to the March of Dimes.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 11:51 AM
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That is a killer idea---Drop a Dime night---hello marketing??!!!! 
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Posted: 1/13/2013 1:55 PM
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Tyler wrote:expand_more
Sell upper bowl tickets for $.10 and give everyone a coupon to buy any concession item for $.10.


Watch out, the "tickets are too cheap" police will be coming for you! 
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Posted: 1/13/2013 4:45 PM
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I'm thrilled we have a player past Chris Duhon. He always rubbed me the wrong way.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 5:09 PM
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Agreed, JSF. The more I study this...it is amazing that we will have a player finishing among these guys. It's an absolute who's-who list of college basketball.

Hurley, Corchiani, Blake, Anthony, Gottlieb, and Payton? Are you kidding me? WOW. I don't think any of us truly realize how lucky we are to have DJ on our side.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 10:37 PM
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Some #'s

Currently at 125 games with 824 assists.
Last 5 games:  Averaging 10.4 apg

14 games left in the regular season.
At that pace, through the regular season he'd finish with 969.6.  Last year, we played 6 post season games.  If we did that again, he'd finish with 1032.  If he kept that pace up through the postseason, he'd need 16.7 games to break 1000.
Obviously the # of postseason games depends on our run in any postseason tourney we could potentially make and how many games we play in the MAC tourney.  Also, he isn't averaging 10.4 apg this season, he is averaging 8.3.  I am also assuming they count postseason games in all-time lists.  I have no clue if that is the case or not.
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Posted: 1/13/2013 11:26 PM
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I would be interested to see how many of these guys even approached DJ's PPG average. He is not only assisting but scoring as well, having his hand in most of the points scored on any given night.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 3:51 AM
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More all time top 25 stats that D.J. could have at the end of the year are games played (20 more games needed) and steals (26 more steals)
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Posted: 1/14/2013 8:19 AM
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cathead wrote:expand_more
That is a killer idea---Drop a Dime night---hello marketing??!!!! 


Love it.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 8:38 AM
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Anybody know if DJ is on schedule to graduate this spring? I would love to see his jersery retired relatively quickly.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:34 AM
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Not to be too great a dullard, but what is the origin of the term "dimes" for assists?  Back in the day, to "drop a dime" meant to give a tip regarding a crime.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:39 AM
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bornacatfan wrote:expand_more
I would be interested to see how many of these guys even approached DJ's PPG average. He is not only assisting but scoring as well, having his hand in most of the points scored on any given night.

Since I am waiting on a client to respond to some work, and I have no feet to treat – – took a look. 

 

Maintaining his current average puts him over 950 assists after 1 post season game – so top 10.  If you look at the top ten players – he would finish #3 in points per game and #2 in rebounds (fraction below Miller – chance he would pass him for #1).

 

He would be the only player in the top ten to also average double figures (14+ points) AND 4+ rebounds.

 

Player                                                       Assist            Points               Rebounds

Bobby Hurley, Duke ............................  ..1,076              12.4                         2.2
Chris Corchiani, NC St. ....................... ...1,038             11.5                           2.1
Ed Cota, North Carolina.......................  . 1,030               9.5                           4.1
Keith Jennings, East Tenn..................      ....983             15.7                          3.9
Steve Blake, Maryland ......................    ......972               8.3                          3.4
Sherman Douglas, Syracuse.................       .960             14.9                          2.2
Tony Miller, Marquette ........................      ..956               8.3                         4.6
Aaron Miles, Kansas .............................    ...954               8.6                         3.3
DJ Coooper, Ohio                                         950+           14.6                         4.5

Greg Anthony, Port/UNLV ................       ...950             12.6                         3.1

 

BTW - finding DJ's stats proved difficult:

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/cooper_dj00.html

really athletic department - that is how up to date you keep the site?

Last Edited: 1/14/2013 10:57:21 AM by cc-cat
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Posted: 1/14/2013 10:57 AM
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cc cat wrote:expand_more

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/cooper_dj0...

really athletic department - that is how up to date you keep the site?



The game notes are much better. Full page ad on DJ.

Game Notes

Including this:

HOW DOES 5 BECOME 1?
No player in the history of college basketball has ever recorded 2,000 points, 900 assists, 650 rebounds and 300 steals for a career. One current Bobcat has a chance to accomplish this feat.
 
In the history of college basketball, only 12 players have ever recorded 900 assists. That list is headed by names like Bobby Hurley, Chris Corchiani and Ed Cota, while also featuring Keith Jennings, Steve Blake, Tony Miller, Aaron Miles, Greg Anthony, Doug Gottlieb and Orlando Smart. Currently, Cooper has 818 assists and is just 82 assists shy of 900. At 820, Cooper will move into the top-25 all-time in NCAA Division I history in career assists.
 
Two players on the 900 assists list have surpassed 2,000 points. Those names are Sherman Douglas and Gary Payton. Of those two, only Payton had more than 300 steals. However, no one has ever reached 650 rebounds, until possibly this season.

To reach 2,000 points, 900 assists, 650 rebounds and 300 steals… D.J. Cooper would need to average in 35 games 11.6 ppg, 5.9 apg, 3.9 rpg, 1.2 spg.
 
Cooper has averaged at least 13.5 ppg for all three seasons and averaged 5.0 and 5.4 rpg during his freshman and sophomore seasons. His lowest spg total was 2.3 during his sophomore year, but during that time, he also averaged 7.5 apg. It stands to reason, that Cooper has a legitimate shot at putting up career numbers no one has ever seen before.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 11:00 AM
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Good stuff Ted, but the site should be updated from two years ago.  Especially helpful to media looking for quick info - ala is bio. 

The last paragraph of what you posted shows they probably looked at the site and pulled numbers - since they did not provide his junior year stats.  Quite lazy on their part.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 12:21 PM
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Bobcats_828 wrote:expand_more
No doubt his jersey should hang in the rafters. Imagine if him and Trent were together here at the same time. 


That would have been amazing. That's all that team was missing.   I was thinking about how much Leon Williams could have used him as well. 
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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:02 PM
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No doubt his jersey should hang in the rafters. Imagine if him and Trent were together here at the same time. 


What three players would you add to this team? Coach?
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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:14 PM
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Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
...Cooper has a legitimate shot at putting up career numbers no one has ever seen before.


 That is crazy. I had no idea of those numbers. I try to avoid math whenever possible, but this math I like.
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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:15 PM
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What three players would you add to this team? Coach?

PG - Coop
G - Esterkamp
G - Mychal Green
F - Hunter
F - Trent

Coach - Would it really matter?
Last Edited: 1/14/2013 1:15:46 PM by Ozcat
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Posted: 1/14/2013 1:22 PM
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cc cat wrote:expand_more

 

I would be interested to see how many of these guys even approached DJ's PPG average. He is not only assisting but scoring as well, having his hand in most of the points scored on any given night.

Since I am waiting on a client to respond to some work, and I have no feet to treat – – took a look. 

 

Maintaining his current average puts him over 950 assists after 1 post season game – so top 10.  If you look at the top ten players – he would finish #3 in points per game and #2 in rebounds (fraction below Miller – chance he would pass him for #1).

 

He would be the only player in the top ten to also average double figures (14+ points) AND 4+ rebounds.

 

Player                                                       Assist            Points               Rebounds

Bobby Hurley, Duke ............................  ..1,076              12.4                         2.2
Chris Corchiani, NC St. ....................... ...1,038             11.5                           2.1
Ed Cota, North Carolina.......................  . 1,030               9.5                           4.1
Keith Jennings, East Tenn..................      ....983             15.7                          3.9
Steve Blake, Maryland ......................    ......972               8.3                          3.4
Sherman Douglas, Syracuse.................       .960             14.9                          2.2
Tony Miller, Marquette ........................      ..956               8.3                         4.6
Aaron Miles, Kansas .............................    ...954               8.6                         3.3
DJ Coooper, Ohio                                         950+           14.6                         4.5

Greg Anthony, Port/UNLV ................       ...950             12.6                         3.1

 

BTW - finding DJ's stats proved difficult:

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/cooper_dj00.html

really athletic department - that is how up to date you keep the site?



cc:

Thanks for finding the info.  FYI career stats of currrent bobcats are available thru ohiobobcats.com here:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ohio/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2012-13/misc_non_event/CareerStats010913.pdf

The link is provided in the drop down menu under "Inside Men's Basketball."  See the pdf "Career Stats and Highs."  It has current players' career stats but hasn't been updated since the WMU game Saturday.
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