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Posted: 4/1/2013 1:52 PM
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3)  In psy 221 we call what NIU did an 'outlier.'  A LOT had to go right last season for NIU to get where it got, and after the way they got pasted, a lot MORE will have to go right for a MAC school to do it again.


Under the BCS bowl format that is going along with the 4-team playoff model starting in 2014-15, the top ranked "other" conference champion (that is the champions of the leagues not named SEC, Pac12, Big12, Big10) WILL go to one of the big name access bowls. IIRC it will be the Orange Bowl. In other words, under the future system, rather than this year's BCS system, NIU would have played in the Orange Bowl. In years going forward, the top ranked non-BCS conference champion will go big-time bowling (though likely not in the 4-team playoff). All that need happen for a MAC school to "do it again" in the future is being ranked higher than the winners of the CUSA, the MWC, and the SunBelt (the WAC being defunct)


So now we're going to a different bowl that nobody outside of us will care about.  Throwing BCS in the bowl name somewhere doesn't matter if there is a play-off, we're still on the outside looking in.  We just have a better window to look through.


Yep, NOBODY cared about that Orange Bowl game last year (which was QUITE a bit more of a game than the 2012 edition, featuring WVU and Clemson), it wasn't the best viewed of any of the non-championship game bowls (a 6.5 ratings share), and it certainly had lower viewship than the aforementioned WVU/Clemson game (2012 ratings share: 4.5, 2013 ratings share: 6.5). Oh, and its not like it would come with a pile of cash or publicity or weeks of analysis in the press or anything.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:07 PM
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mf279801 wrote:expand_more
3)  In psy 221 we call what NIU did an 'outlier.'  A LOT had to go right last season for NIU to get where it got, and after the way they got pasted, a lot MORE will have to go right for a MAC school to do it again.


Under the BCS bowl format that is going along with the 4-team playoff model starting in 2014-15, the top ranked "other" conference champion (that is the champions of the leagues not named SEC, Pac12, Big12, Big10) WILL go to one of the big name access bowls. IIRC it will be the Orange Bowl. In other words, under the future system, rather than this year's BCS system, NIU would have played in the Orange Bowl. In years going forward, the top ranked non-BCS conference champion will go big-time bowling (though likely not in the 4-team playoff). All that need happen for a MAC school to "do it again" in the future is being ranked higher than the winners of the CUSA, the MWC, and the SunBelt (the WAC being defunct)


So now we're going to a different bowl that nobody outside of us will care about.  Throwing BCS in the bowl name somewhere doesn't matter if there is a play-off, we're still on the outside looking in.  We just have a better window to look through.


Yep, NOBODY cared about that Orange Bowl game last year (which was QUITE a bit more of a game than the 2012 edition, featuring WVU and Clemson), it wasn't the best viewed of any of the non-championship game bowls (a 6.5 ratings share), and it certainly had lower viewship than the aforementioned WVU/Clemson game (2012 ratings share: 4.5, 2013 ratings share: 6.5). Oh, and its not like it would come with a pile of cash or publicity or weeks of analysis in the press or anything.


Nobody cares about it if there's ALSO a play-off.  Kinda like nobody cares about the NIT now..sept thoes teams still in it.

Can't tell me how easy it would be in the new future, then compare it to the past.

Edit to add:  Btw, how does this thread have over 16k views?
Last Edited: 4/1/2013 2:12:28 PM by OrlandoCat
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:21 PM
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Has the Gang of 5 (now 4, with WAC demise) agreed to the BCS Consolation Bowl?  The last I heard it had been proposed by the Big Six but the Gang's legal eagles were looking over the fine print, and there was a hint of a law suit unless the Gang had certain conditions met.  I don't recall the details, but the general  concern, again, was in the area of anti-trust violations.  Perhaps these issues were resolved and the Gang has signed on the dotted line.  If so, does anyone know the details?  If not, I wonder how the negotiations are going.
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Posted: 4/1/2013 2:59 PM
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OrlandoCat wrote:expand_more
Edit to add:  Btw, how does this thread have over 16k views?


Maybe the mere talk of going to a larger conference has generated more outside interest in this thread.  
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Posted: 4/2/2013 6:23 PM
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If you take all of the personal preference of football or basketball out of your decision making, I recommend you replace it with the a view on how money influences the sport.  Also look at how that money also influences the end of the season and National Championship (what the overall goal of each and every program should be).  

There is a big difference between the two, and fairness and legitimacy in the championship is obvious. 


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Posted: 4/4/2013 3:48 PM
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https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/319868977272721408

Apparently UIC is now in the MVC and Oakland moves to the Horizon.
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Posted: 4/4/2013 7:01 PM
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UIC? Whaaaat?
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