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colobobcat66
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Posted: 12/25/2013 12:29 PM
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Bobcat Love wrote:expand_more
I pull for Akron big time. You are a fool if you don't in the OOC. Only helps us.

Fool? There are reasons that are not foolish to not pull for Akron,including recruiting and not diverting attention (good press, etc)from Ohio to Akron because they're win these games. Not nice to call people fools because they see things differently
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Posted: 12/25/2013 12:33 PM
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In Love's defense, he calls me a fool to my face. But, then again, he's an idiot for thinking we should ever root for Akron.
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Posted: 12/25/2013 11:19 PM
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Akron is loaded and deep with talent, but something is missing.

Tonight Kronistan stunk up the gym in the second half vs. South Carolina. Zips led at the half, but were listless, tired and outhustled in the second half.

Seemed a half step slow and lacked quickness. They are very strong and powerful inside, however.

I would still rate Kronistan as the odds on favorite to win the MAC this season. But Ohio potentially could beat them IF we take advantage of our superior quickness and speed. The Zips are a lot stronger than us physically, so we have to take them out of their game somehow.
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Posted: 12/26/2013 10:38 AM
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Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
Seemed a half step slow and lacked quickness. They are very strong and powerful inside, however.

I would still rate Kronistan as the odds on favorite to win the MAC this season. But Ohio potentially could beat them IF we take advantage of our superior quickness and speed. The Zips are a lot stronger than us physically, so we have to take them out of their game somehow.


I don't know about that Jeff.  I think their flaws in the half court offense are so big that teams that spend a lot of time scouting them will be able to beat them.  We have issues at point guard but nothing compared to Akron.  Their offense right now consists of offensive rebounds and fast breaks.  It appears that they have given up on Betancourt since he's played a total of 5 minutes in the last 4 games.  Nyles Evans has the talent to be the answer but I don't think he has it in him mentally.  He's had some stretches where he looks good but he always reverts back to what he is which is a guy who doesn't pay attention to his teammates on the court.  We have five guys who have more assists than Evans. They have a nice collection of spot shooters who can't get their shots off because the ball never arrives when it should.  So they play Diggs there and while he's a good player he's not a PG.

They have an impressive front court but they are a terrible perimeter defending team. I think this just as much as the lack of a point guard is going to be their undoing.   They are going to win some games but I just can't see them winning the MAC.  Good coaches will be able to exploit them IMO.  
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Posted: 12/28/2013 8:27 PM
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Watched Kron vs University of South Carolina in the NBA format of playing the same team twice in a couple of days (12/25 and 12/28)

First there was Dumb and Dumber, now, 

Lousy and Lousier

20 turnovers, benchings, going to a zone D late to stop the onslaught, 18 minutes of no basket...had USC scored on some of the missed first half layups and the second half stayed the same this would have been a 40+ beatdown.  

The way Kron finished the football season with a victory over the Rockets and their most wins in quite a while and now  this happening in basketball, I wonder how long before their fans ask when does football season start?

 
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Posted: 12/28/2013 10:38 PM
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that team has a lot of quit in them.
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Posted: 12/28/2013 10:53 PM
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I like Akron's non-conference schedule. They aren't afraid to play the big boys. I also saw Eastern playing Duke and Syracuse back to back. It should help Akron down the road.
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Posted: 12/29/2013 8:10 AM
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perimeterpost wrote:expand_more
that team has a lot of quit in them.


No question, Treadwell was essentially going through the motions for most of the game.  So much so that the announcers even mentioned it. They could put all the pieces together during the MAC season but they also have the potential to absolutely implode.
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Posted: 12/29/2013 10:12 AM
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giacomo wrote:expand_more
I like Akron's non-conference schedule. They aren't afraid to play the big boys. I also saw Eastern playing Duke and Syracuse back to back. It should help Akron down the road.

I think EMU's and Akron's schedules worked for them, but I would have hated those schedules for Ohio.

I like that Akron played a holiday tournament, but beyond that their schedule is awkward. 3 AM West Coast road game... 1 OOC home game (on a Friday night) when Ohio students are in town. Now, Akron isn't Ohio... They don't rely on a student crowd for attendance, so it makes more sense for them... But not us. Also, HUGE gap of no games from November 16th to December 7th.

As for EMU... I would like to play a Duke or Cuse level team on the road every year (we did that, OSU), but piling up on those games for paydays is only worthwhile to me if you use the money to schedule some quality home games. 3 of 8 EMU home games were non-D-1's... The meltdown from season ticket holders on this board if Ohio did that would be well-justified, IMO. Again, EMU isn't Ohio. Fanbase interest has very little impact on their program.
I think EMU is scheduling to maximize their stake in the new MAC men's hoops money distribution. The exact formula hasn't been released but newspaper reports have stated it rewards high RPI (playing road games like Cuse and Duke and Purdue help there even with loses) lots of wins (non-D-1's count AND those games don't hurt their RPI) and also lots of home games (again 3 non-d-1's to bump up their count of total OOC wins without spending much money they got from playing pay road games)
It really is brilliant scheduling from their perspective. They are going to get a nice stake in the MAC distribution.
 
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