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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:13 AM
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Posted: 6/27/2014 7:58 AM
I'm sure its at Quicken Loans. Not really a true road game.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 8:44 AM
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There are so many Bucknuts in Cleveland that it's almost as bad a Columbus. Make no mistake -- it's a home game for them. They'll probably get a big cut of the gate and throw a bone to their massive fan base in NE Ohio at the same time. CSU is not a very big threat to beat them, so there's almost no downside to a quick trip up north.
 
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Posted: 6/27/2014 8:46 AM
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Pick a team you know you can beat handily.  Demand most of the gate.  And then turn around and tell everyone you played an in-state opponent on the road.  Brilliant.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 9:02 AM
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Pick a team you know you can beat handily.  Demand most of the gate.  And then turn around and tell everyone you played an in-state opponent on the road.  Brilliant.


Bucknut scheduling at it's finest.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 10:30 AM
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Pick a team you know you can beat handily.  Demand most of the gate.  And then turn around and tell everyone you played an in-state opponent on the road.  Brilliant.


Bucknut scheduling at it's finest.


Agreed. Sort of like Syracuse playing Fordham at MSG or Barclays.  No downside at all.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 10:56 AM
That said, I'd take a game at The Q or Nationwide against the Buckeyes over a game at the Schott.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 11:07 AM
Story in the PD today says CSU considering eliminating the upper bowl of their arena and building a floor of classrooms.  The facility has been a huge money drain since it was built.


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Posted: 6/27/2014 12:41 PM
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That said, I'd take a game at The Q or Nationwide against the Buckeyes over a game at the Schott.
I'm pretty sure that Ohio State will play at least one home game at Nationwide this season since there will be second/third round tournament games there in 2015. I wouldn't be surprised if North Carolina-Wilmington plays in Columbus right before the game at the Convo.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 2:49 PM
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Story in the PD today says CSU considering eliminating the upper bowl of their arena and building a floor of classrooms.  The facility has been a huge money drain since it was built.


That's a shame. It's a really nice arena.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 3:46 PM
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Story in the PD today says CSU considering eliminating the upper bowl of their arena and building a floor of classrooms.  The facility has been a huge money drain since it was built.


That's a shame. It's a really nice arena.

All of this is true. At the time the arena was planned, the Cavs still played in Richfield and CSU had outgrown its gym (and it really, really was a gym). They were on the rise after the mid-80s Sweet Sixteen run and playing their bigger games at the Public Hall, which seats 10,000 but isn't really ideal for hoops and is not on campus. They needed to do something, so they did something big. At the time, it made sense.

CSU has been trying for decades to get away from its commuter school roots and image, and the arena was an early and big part of that effort. They've since done great work to improve the campus and the school, but the projections for the arena never came to fruition because the Quicken Loans Arena opened three years after their arena. Compounding the problem of a newer, bigger and better competing facility is the fact that the Vikings are largely unloved and ignored in Cleveland. This is a town that plays that &*^%$#*( Sloopy song at every baseball game, and the crowd goes wild every time.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 4:45 PM
How well does the Wolstein Center do in securing things like concerts, rodeos, Disney on Ice, etc.? I would think removing an entire upper deck essentially kills those efforts.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 5:35 PM
The upcoming events page is pretty bare: http://www.wolsteincenter.com/all-upcoming-events.aspx
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Posted: 6/27/2014 6:53 PM
What I find funny here is that if we agreed to play Cleveland State at their place it would also be a home game for us. Lots of Bobcats in NEO.
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Posted: 6/27/2014 10:50 PM
I thought this was an interesting quote on the Wolstein Center Wikipedia page-

"Cleveland State used revenues from its 1986 NCAA men's basketball tournament run to help build what is now the Wolstein Center"

who knew a single Sweet 16 run could fund a $55m arena?
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Posted: 6/28/2014 8:14 AM
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How well does the Wolstein Center do in securing things like concerts, rodeos, Disney on Ice, etc.? I would think removing an entire upper deck essentially kills those efforts.


The Q being down the street is really what kills those efforts. At roughly the size of our own Convo, the Wolstein Center is too big for acts that want a theater setting. Those choose from more than 10 smaller venues within a few miles of CSU. The bigger acts want the Q for its size, amenities and location next to hotels, transportation and restaurants. Wolstein is the exact wrong size and place for most acts.

Honestly, the Wolstein Center would be fine if CSU could draw. They can't. It's been years since they've had the whole arena open (they use a Millett-style curtain), and even when Butler was in the Horizon and the Vikings had a great team competing for a championship, they didn't sell out a crucial late-season game against Butler. That was a team with Norris Cole, and that was failing to sell out a curtained arena on a Saturday against a team that made the Final Four. It's too bad because the team is usually pretty good, the arena is nice, the tickets are cheap, the beer (yes, beer) is cold, and the games are fun.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 8:34 AM
Also - Cleveland is a pro sports town.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 4:15 PM
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Also - Cleveland is a pro sports town.


It supports college sports just fine. The MAC tournament is a decently big deal every year, the NCAA has the NCAA tournament there all the time (including the women's final four a couple years ago), and if Ohio State was near Cleveland, you'd better believe it would be just like Columbus. The Buckeyes would be behind only the Browns.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 5:01 PM
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Also - Cleveland is a pro sports town.


It supports college sports just fine. The MAC tournament is a decently big deal every year, the NCAA has the NCAA tournament there all the time (including the women's final four a couple years ago), and if Ohio State was near Cleveland, you'd better believe it would be just like Columbus. The Buckeyes would be behind only the Browns.


Got to agree with 69 on this one and acknowlege JSF's points but at the end of the day, folks in northeast Ohio are all about the Browns, the Indians and then the Cavs - in that order.  After that, and I hate to say it, it's osu.  Sure it's been almost 40 years since I lived there but at family reunions and talking with relatives who still live in Akron, their allegiance is to the Browns and Indians and Akron U.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 5:04 PM
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It supports college sports just fine. The MAC tournament is a decently big deal every year, the NCAA has the NCAA tournament there all the time (including the women's final four a couple years ago), and if Ohio State was near Cleveland, you'd better believe it would be just like Columbus. The Buckeyes would be behind only the Browns.


Pathetically, Buckeye football IS only behind the Browns in Cleveland.
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Posted: 6/28/2014 8:31 PM
I agree... Browns, 0$U Football, Indians, Cavs with the last 2 being interchangeable depending on which one is doing better.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 5:56 AM
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Also - Cleveland is a pro sports town.

Sure it's been almost 40 years since I lived there but at family reunions and talking with relatives who still live in Akron, their allegiance is to the Browns and Indians and Akron U.

Akron U. 

I'm crying because I am laughing.
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Posted: 6/29/2014 5:08 PM
Don't know why Alan refuses to refer to UA correctly.
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Posted: 6/30/2014 3:34 PM
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It supports college sports just fine. The MAC tournament is a decently big deal every year, the NCAA has the NCAA tournament there all the time (including the women's final four a couple years ago), and if Ohio State was near Cleveland, you'd better believe it would be just like Columbus. The Buckeyes would be behind only the Browns.


Pathetically, Buckeye football IS only behind the Browns in Cleveland.


Absolutely correct. And it is pathetic. The Cleveland media, especially the newspaper, treats o$u football like a hometown team. Staff of shills. One TV station plays the o$u fight song when they show highlights. "Hang on Sloopy" is played at Browns, Indians and Cavs games and the crowds go wild. o$u played Cleveland State in basketball at the Q several years ago and it was a largely pro-o$u crowd.   
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Absolutely correct. And it is pathetic. The Cleveland media, especially the newspaper, treats o$u football like a hometown team. Staff of shills. One TV station plays the o$u fight song when they show highlights. "Hang on Sloopy" is played at Browns, Indians and Cavs games and the crowds go wild. o$u played Cleveland State in basketball at the Q several years ago and it was a largely pro-o$u crowd.   


Pretty much justifies their playing up OSU like the home team, no?  Let's get over it...OSU is the dominant Div. I program in the state and always will be.  
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