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Alan Swank
4/1/2016 8:12 AM
Since it's still basketball season, this is going here. Enjoy Steveland:

http://www.thepostathens.com/opinion/letter-bruce-springs...
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bobcatsquared
4/1/2016 9:36 AM
One of my older brothers was a freshman living on East Green at the time. He tells me how he walked up Jeff Hill late that night, entered Mem Aud toward the end of the show w/o a ticket and caught the last few songs standing just a few feet from the Big Man.

Thanks for posting, Alan.
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Bobcatbob
4/1/2016 9:49 AM
No mention of the famous Swanky's drop-in? Somebody must have actually been there that night.
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Alan Swank
4/1/2016 10:43 AM
Bobcatbob wrote:expand_more
No mention of the famous Swanky's drop-in? Somebody must have actually been there that night.
Yep, probably one of the folks who was also at Woodstock.
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The Optimist
4/1/2016 10:45 AM
1976: Bruce Springsteen headlines at MemAud
2016: Fetty Wap headlines at #Fest
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shabamon
4/1/2016 11:01 AM
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.
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The Optimist
4/1/2016 11:17 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.

I agree with you. #Fest takes a lot of heat for a wide variety of reasons, but when you look at the list of performers over the years, it is actually pretty impressive. Many people may not like the style of music, but the artists who have played #Fest often ended up having huge commercial success in the years following their #Fest performance. Fetty Wap has already had pretty huge commercial success.
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Alan Swank
4/1/2016 11:33 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.

I agree with you. #Fest takes a lot of heat for a wide variety of reasons, but when you look at the list of performers over the years, it is actually pretty impressive. Many people may not like the style of music, but the artists who have played #Fest often ended up having huge commercial success in the years following their #Fest performance. Fetty Wap has already had pretty huge commercial success.
You hit the nail on the head - style of music. It will be interesting to see in 40 years if the stuff being played at #Fest is still on anyone's play list. The stuff from the 70's certainly is. Only time will tell.
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OUs LONG Driver
4/1/2016 11:51 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.

I agree with you. #Fest takes a lot of heat for a wide variety of reasons, but when you look at the list of performers over the years, it is actually pretty impressive. Many people may not like the style of music, but the artists who have played #Fest often ended up having huge commercial success in the years following their #Fest performance. Fetty Wap has already had pretty huge commercial success.
You hit the nail on the head - style of music. It will be interesting to see in 40 years if the stuff being played at #Fest is still on anyone's play list. The stuff from the 70's certainly is. Only time will tell.
People thought Rock & Roll was the devil but somehow it's still around and the generation that follows it the closest seems to be OK for the most part. I don't understand why some folks who fought with their parents to listen to Rock now look down on those who prefer Hip Hop (not saying you necessarily do Al).

Lots of playlists feature hip hop from the 80's & 90's. Sirius added XM FLY last year to their lineup which is hip hop/R&B from the 90's & early 2000's. I rarely need to change the channel.
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Alan Swank
4/1/2016 2:47 PM
OUs LONG Driver wrote:expand_more
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.

I agree with you. #Fest takes a lot of heat for a wide variety of reasons, but when you look at the list of performers over the years, it is actually pretty impressive. Many people may not like the style of music, but the artists who have played #Fest often ended up having huge commercial success in the years following their #Fest performance. Fetty Wap has already had pretty huge commercial success.
You hit the nail on the head - style of music. It will be interesting to see in 40 years if the stuff being played at #Fest is still on anyone's play list. The stuff from the 70's certainly is. Only time will tell.
People thought Rock & Roll was the devil but somehow it's still around and the generation that follows it the closest seems to be OK for the most part. I don't understand why some folks who fought with their parents to listen to Rock now look down on those who prefer Hip Hop (not saying you necessarily do Al).

Lots of playlists feature hip hop from the 80's & 90's. Sirius added XM FLY last year to their lineup which is hip hop/R&B from the 90's & early 2000's. I rarely need to change the channel.
Let's take disco for example. Can't say that I've ever been to a party or dinner at someone's house where they had a disco playlist. Even for those who today listen to the music that you cite, I wonder if they'll have a play list of it in 30 years. There is some music that I won't play for my grand kids (The Pusher comes to mind), but not much from 1965 - 1980.
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Bobcatbob
4/1/2016 2:57 PM
I don't know; Disco is pretty popular on Mars and Disco Inferno still makes me get out of my chair - every d%$# time!
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OUs LONG Driver
4/1/2016 3:40 PM
Disco wasn't around nearly as long as Hip Hop has been. 30 years ago it was RUN-D.M.C., The Beastie Boys, Ice T, Salt n Pepa, Biz Markie, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, Eric B & Rakim, etc. Not too hard to find a station with those songs still playing. Some of those people are still relevant in the entertainment world to this day.

No doubt there are a lot of songs not meant for kids, but my money is on the hip hop world still going strong in another 30 years.
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Brian Smith (No, not that one)
4/1/2016 3:59 PM
OUs LONG Driver wrote:expand_more
Say what you will about Fetty Wap and #Fest, but the fact that a couple years ago, Kendrick Lamar performed in Athens is something to be proud of.

I agree with you. #Fest takes a lot of heat for a wide variety of reasons, but when you look at the list of performers over the years, it is actually pretty impressive. Many people may not like the style of music, but the artists who have played #Fest often ended up having huge commercial success in the years following their #Fest performance. Fetty Wap has already had pretty huge commercial success.
You hit the nail on the head - style of music. It will be interesting to see in 40 years if the stuff being played at #Fest is still on anyone's play list. The stuff from the 70's certainly is. Only time will tell.

I don't understand why some folks who fought with their parents to listen to Rock now look down on those who prefer Hip Hop
Feel free to skip this. I'm going to roam.

It's frustrating, too, because I feel like this younger generation is so much more appreciative — almost reverential — of previous generations' music than their parents and grand-parents. It's not reciprocated.

It takes curiosity, and sadly it seems the human mind has less room for curiosity as it ages. I don't mean that as harshly as that probably reads. It's normal, but I guess I had hope that a generation that produced such a wonderful library of music would remain more malleable.

I try to appreciate it all, see it as artifact of its age. I'll encounter this music of a previous time and be just as mystified to its charm as my parents are Killer Mike or Kendrick Lamar. But I take the time to figure it out. I'll listen to stuff I don't find compelling until I get it. Until it clicks. And suddenly I can listen to a scratchy old blues record and it's in Technicolor. And suddenly Bob Dylan in 1966 isn't a guy who can't sing, but the producer of the richest, most profound music I own. And Joy Division goes from droning to mournfully cathartic.

I like to remember that one of the last things Lou Reed wrote was a glowing review of Yeezus and that David Byrne is 63 years old and writes more hopefully about music than anyone 30 years his junior. It give me grounds for believing I can hold off becoming calcified or narcissistic about music, or really a whole lot of other things in life.
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west side cat
4/1/2016 4:38 PM
Long live The Boss! Missed ou show by 10 years but have seen him over a dozen times since. Most recently last month with my daughter who graduates from ou this year. Just as good now as he was 30 years ago. Hope to have half his energy at 66 years old. Great story about his show in athens.
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bornacatfan
4/1/2016 4:55 PM
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well done Brian. Here's To those who are still looking for the next awesome thing be it Rap, Hip Hop, Blues, Opera, Orchestra, Techno or any genre not yet invented.

I can't think of anything more sacred to me than WXRT on New Music day. 1977 a new band named The Police and then over the years new bands and new releases from REM, Talking Heads, Indigo Girls and more recently Alabama Shakes and similar. Always listening to what my boys are listening to from hip hop to country to progessive/alternative and finding my youngest playing Quadrophenia through the Bluetooth in the truck which is oddly comforting to me. As soon as something goes mainstream I find myself moving on trying to understand the next thing. Maybe that goes back to my P's making us stay up to watch some band on the Ed Sullivan show that they insisted was going to have a huge impact on music...some band called the Beatles.

I like my XRT...progressive when I was 17 and still is.... http://wxrt.cbslocal.com / good source for new music as well. Download section is pretty nice.

thanks Brian. I like it.
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giacomo
4/1/2016 4:56 PM
The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
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Alan Swank
4/1/2016 5:40 PM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
Lyrics - now there's a story. Give me the great singer song writers and I'll be happy till midnight (all the later I can stay up in longer). Take songs like Harry Chapin's Mr. Tanner and Corey's Coming. Springsteen's The River or Mary Chapin Carpenter's Grand Central Station and Mrs. Hemmingway. Newer folks like the Milk Carton Kids or Darlingside or Della Mae. They paint a picture of all of our feelings - good, bad, joyful and painful. There was something unifying about it. Going back to the Boss and a famous Carneige Hall quote from 1987 - "now you've got your music, I've got mine, the guy down the street's got his"- things are a bit fractured now and that's why I don't think you'll have the same depth and breadth of songs from the last 20 years being cued up in 30 more.
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Mike Johnson
4/1/2016 8:29 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
Lyrics - now there's a story. Give me the great singer song writers and I'll be happy till midnight (all the later I can stay up in longer). Take songs like Harry Chapin's Mr. Tanner and Corey's Coming. Springsteen's The River or Mary Chapin Carpenter's Grand Central Station and Mrs. Hemmingway. Newer folks like the Milk Carton Kids or Darlingside or Della Mae. They paint a picture of all of our feelings - good, bad, joyful and painful. There was something unifying about it. Going back to the Boss and a famous Carneige Hall quote from 1987 - "now you've got your music, I've got mine, the guy down the street's got his"- things are a bit fractured now and that's why I don't think you'll have the same depth and breadth of songs from the last 20 years being cued up in 30 more.

Did you per chance watch the PBS telecast of the White House tribute to Carole King? I didn't want it to end.
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Monroe Slavin
4/2/2016 1:08 AM
Hip hop and rap and such may well be here in 20 or 40 years.

But I think that many of the tunes (mostly rock) that came out from the early 60's through, at least, the 80's will be played forever or could come out now and be hits.

Is that true of a lot of rap and hip hop, of rap and hip hop from many years ago?
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The Optimist
4/2/2016 8:49 AM
About this time last year the movie "Straight Outta Compton" was released drawing its name from the album by the same name released in August of 1988. That group has been widely credited with creating the Gangsta Rap genre. We are approaching 30 years now from that release... I'm sure we will keep hearing about how it won't last for another 30 years.
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OhioCatFan
4/2/2016 9:50 AM
giacomo wrote:expand_more
The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
Kind of a kindred soul here, giacomo. I have an XM radio in my car and for music I usually listen to the 50s Channel, which tends to focus on music from the late 50s into the early 60s. I occasionally go up a decade to the 60s channel or down to the 40s channel. Seldom venture into the 70s channel or beyond. My two older children, who were born in the '70s, hate anything musically or culturally that came out of that decade. I don't exactly understand why. My iPhone is filled with a variety of music from classical to pop to Christian to folk, and, of course, a lot of Civil War Era music.

In the latter category there is a song that has recently been rattling around in my brain. It's a strange song. It was written by Henry Clay Work, an abolitionist, who also wrote Kingdom Coming, Marching Through Georgia, and many years later, My Grandfather's Clock. But, the song, "Wake Nicodemus!" is so different. It's very deep and multilayered that you must listen to it repeatedly and immerse yourself in the culture of the day to appreciate its metaphysical significance.

For those interested, here's a recording of two of its four verses. It's hard to find all four verses recorded in one rendition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPw1hzS_HdY

An African American group, called the Carolina Chocolate Drops, has done an interesting adaption of it it as well, but there are no links to an online recording.
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rpbobcat
4/2/2016 11:10 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since it's still basketball season, this is going here. Enjoy Steveland:

http://www.thepostathens.com/opinion/letter-bruce-springs...
The Mem Aud concert was a big deal.
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Who out there remembers when Bruce was like the fifth act at O.U.'s 1973 Music Fest?

I was supposed to work the show as an usher,but got sick,so my roommate worked it instead.

I always wondered if playing there is what gave him the idea to come back and play Mem Aud.
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Alan Swank
4/2/2016 12:24 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Since it's still basketball season, this is going here. Enjoy Steveland:

http://www.thepostathens.com/opinion/letter-bruce-springs...
The Mem Aud concert was a big deal.
BUT
Who out there remembers when Bruce was like the fifth act at O.U.'s 1973 Music Fest?

I was supposed to work the show as an usher,but got sick,so my roommate worked it instead.

I always wondered if playing there is what gave him the idea to come back and play Mem Aud.
How about the 9th act. Here's a link to the poster. Once you left NJ, NE Ohio with the help of WMMS was one of the strongest Springsteen outposts in the country. In the 70's they used to play Born to Run every Friday evening precisely at 6. With the strong OU alumni base in Cleveland, it's no wonder he was such a hit here too.

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/152796
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perimeterpost
4/2/2016 12:39 PM
I'll just add- 40 years and the man is still rocking his heart out every night. Amazing.
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The Optimist
4/2/2016 12:45 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Since it's still basketball season, this is going here. Enjoy Steveland:

http://www.thepostathens.com/opinion/letter-bruce-springs...
The Mem Aud concert was a big deal.
BUT
Who out there remembers when Bruce was like the fifth act at O.U.'s 1973 Music Fest?

I was supposed to work the show as an usher,but got sick,so my roommate worked it instead.

I always wondered if playing there is what gave him the idea to come back and play Mem Aud.
How about the 9th act. Here's a link to the poster. Once you left NJ, NE Ohio with the help of WMMS was one of the strongest Springsteen outposts in the country. In the 70's they used to play Born to Run every Friday evening precisely at 6. With the strong OU alumni base in Cleveland, it's no wonder he was such a hit here too.

http://expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/152796
Cool poster.
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