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Alan Swank
4/2/2016 12:56 PM
Check out this one. I thought Casa shows started late. How about 10:30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVID-CROSBY-GRAHAM-NASH-1973-OHI...
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rpbobcat
4/2/2016 4:16 PM
Would love to know what the set list was for the 1973 Bruce show.
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rpbobcat
4/2/2016 4:22 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Check out this one. I thought Casa shows started late. How about 10:30.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVID-CROSBY-GRAHAM-NASH-1973-OHI...
I worked that concert as an usher on the floor.
To be honest,I don't remember it starting that late.
I do remember it being a great show and the band going uptown after it.

The worst concert I worked I was Sly and Family Stone.
He showed up,over 2 hours late,and looked stoned out of his mind.
Then he wouldn't go on until he got a pizza.

When he did go on,he only did about a 45 minute set.
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Alan Swank
4/2/2016 4:31 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Would love to know what the set list was for the 1973 Bruce show.
It was the Greetings From Asbury Park tour with the album released in January of 1973 so that might help. I just picked up that album in near mint condition at a record show in Nelsonville.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greetings_from_Asbury_Park,... .
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bobcatsquared
4/2/2016 4:35 PM
Setlist for this show is missing at sites that have setlists for most of his shows dating back to when he was in high school, circa mid-1960s.

Did find this:

Festival appearance with Blood, Sweat and Tears, the Eagles and Billy Preston. A fairly impressive 9-artist roster with Bruce and the band receiving near bottom billing. They play early on the first day of this 2-day festival held indoors at the school's Convocation Center. The Eagles co-headline. Eagle Don Henley has commented on this show: "I'd first heard about Springsteen from Jackson (Browne), who raved about him. Then we ended up on the same bill as Bruce at a festival out in Ohio. So I sort of wandered in alone and checked out his set. He was just a warm-up act at that this show. After watching him I remember thinking to myself that this was a guy that wasn't gonna be warming up the crowd for us - or for anybody - for very long".

The setlist is unknown, but a fan who was present said : "I was at the show April 27th, 1973 at Ohio University in Athens, Oh. I was going to school there, and my resident assistant at the dorm was on the concert board. He was telling me about who all was going to be on the bill for the festival, and I said that I had never heard of Bruce Springsteen. He told me that Bruce was going to be something big, and he gave me a copy of the "Greetings from Asbury Park" album so that I could listen to it. I was blown away. I went to the concert looking forward to hearing tunes from the album, and seeing what this new guy was all about. People in the audience were asking "Who is this guy?". By the time Bruce's set was over, they were converted fans. I don't remember many of the songs from that night, but I do remember "Growin' Up", and I also recall Bruce jumping up onto the piano and singing. What energy! The show was excellent. I have been a big fan ever since".
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Alan Swank
4/2/2016 4:55 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Setlist for this show is missing at sites that have setlists for most of his shows dating back to when he was in high school, circa mid-1960s.

Did find this:

Festival appearance with Blood, Sweat and Tears, the Eagles and Billy Preston. A fairly impressive 9-artist roster with Bruce and the band receiving near bottom billing. They play early on the first day of this 2-day festival held indoors at the school's Convocation Center. The Eagles co-headline. Eagle Don Henley has commented on this show: "I'd first heard about Springsteen from Jackson (Browne), who raved about him. Then we ended up on the same bill as Bruce at a festival out in Ohio. So I sort of wandered in alone and checked out his set. He was just a warm-up act at that this show. After watching him I remember thinking to myself that this was a guy that wasn't gonna be warming up the crowd for us - or for anybody - for very long".

The setlist is unknown, but a fan who was present said : "I was at the show April 27th, 1973 at Ohio University in Athens, Oh. I was going to school there, and my resident assistant at the dorm was on the concert board. He was telling me about who all was going to be on the bill for the festival, and I said that I had never heard of Bruce Springsteen. He told me that Bruce was going to be something big, and he gave me a copy of the "Greetings from Asbury Park" album so that I could listen to it. I was blown away. I went to the concert looking forward to hearing tunes from the album, and seeing what this new guy was all about. People in the audience were asking "Who is this guy?". By the time Bruce's set was over, they were converted fans. I don't remember many of the songs from that night, but I do remember "Growin' Up", and I also recall Bruce jumping up onto the piano and singing. What energy! The show was excellent. I have been a big fan ever since".
Thanks squared. Some of my fondest memories are of concerts through the years going all the way back to Pink Floyd at Blossom in June of 1973. With the improved roads to Athens, you would think that we could get some bigger Convo shows these days. Hopefully the new president is a rock and roll fan and a golfer.
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giacomo
4/2/2016 5:40 PM
Does anybody remember when Haffa's went out of biz? I loved that place.
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Alan Swank
4/2/2016 6:26 PM
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Does anybody remember when Haffa's went out of biz? I loved that place.
https://www.facebook.com/haffasrecords /
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bobcatsquared
4/2/2016 6:59 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Thanks squared. Some of my fondest memories are of concerts through the years going all the way back to Pink Floyd at Blossom in June of 1973. With the improved roads to Athens, you would think that we could get some bigger Convo shows these days. Hopefully the new president is a rock and roll fan and a golfer.
Fall of 1979, my first quarter as an Ohio University student, saw three national acts performing in the Convo. I'm unable to remember the three acts, although one was REO Speedwagon and Michael Stanley Band was a warmup act for one of the shows. (MSB was a Cleveland-area rock band and, as mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, anything big in Cleveland tends to translate to being big in Athens).
I came home for winter break that December thinking that my college years in Athens would include several big-name concerts per year. However, The Who concert that month in Cincinnati where several fans were trampled to death supposedly changed all that. Three Convo concerts in one quarter became maybe three Convo concerts the remaining 3 2/3 years. Rumor was the tragedy in Cincy altered planning concerts at Ohio University thereafter.
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Joe McKinley
4/2/2016 7:19 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Thanks squared. Some of my fondest memories are of concerts through the years going all the way back to Pink Floyd at Blossom in June of 1973. With the improved roads to Athens, you would think that we could get some bigger Convo shows these days. Hopefully the new president is a rock and roll fan and a golfer.
Fall of 1979, my first quarter as an Ohio University student, saw three national acts performing in the Convo. I'm unable to remember the three acts, although one was REO Speedwagon and Michael Stanley Band was a warmup act for one of the shows. (MSB was a Cleveland-area rock band and, as mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, anything big in Cleveland tends to translate to being big in Athens).
I came home for winter break that December thinking that my college years in Athens would include several big-name concerts per year. However, The Who concert that month in Cincinnati where several fans were trampled to death supposedly changed all that. Three Convo concerts in one quarter became maybe three Convo concerts the remaining 3 2/3 years. Rumor was the tragedy in Cincy altered planning concerts at Ohio University thereafter.
Fall 1979 Convo shows were Styx, Kansas & Foreigner. The Styx show was the only one that made decent money and that was because 5,500 of the 11,288 tickets sold happened in Columbus and Marietta. Kansas drew around 6,000 and Foreigner sold just north of 5,000. There were so many shows that fall because JAM out of Indianapolis was trying to break into Ohio and compete with Belkin.

There were problems reported on campus/uptown after the Styx show and a nasty accident involving alcohol that put underage concert goers in the hospital. So, out of town ticket sales were restricted to 2,500 thereafter. In addition, a Concert Review Committee (including the Dean of Students, OU Police Chief, local fire chief, city reps, student programming staff and a few students) was established to review the contracts and eventful arrangements.

Other Pop Concert Committee shows that school year were Southside Johnny & The Asbury Jukes, The Bar-Kays, Marcel Marceau and in the Convo Waylon Jennings & Buddy Holly's Original Crickets.

The REO Speedwagon show was winter 1980 and sold just north of 9K tickets. They had the #1 record in the country at the time - thought they'd sell more. The band and some road crew members played hoops at Grover post show until the loadout was done.

Michael Stanley Band played Mem Aud fall 1982. The show broke even.

Good times.
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bobcatsquared
4/2/2016 7:24 PM
Thanks, Joe. Obviously a better memory than mine. Do you think that The Who tragedy in Cincy had any effect on future concerts in Athens? Or just rumors?
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Joe McKinley
4/2/2016 8:36 PM
bobcatsquared wrote:expand_more
Thanks, Joe. Obviously a better memory than mine. Do you think that The Who tragedy in Cincy had any effect on future concerts in Athens? Or just rumors?
Thanks, friend. I was very involved in campus programming as a student volunteer from sophomore through senior year. Some of my best education and long-terms friendshipshappened as a result. So, my memories come from being heavily involved.

I'm sure The Who concert tragedy gave pause to anyone putting on major events. But I don't think it had an impact on number of shows or how/where they were done in Athens.

We never had GA/festival seating at the Convo. I think shows/tours were impacted by a horrible economy from 1980-84, especially for young people, and the growth of stadium shows for top acts.

BTW - One of my best Bobcat buddies was at The Who show and has vivid, sobering memories of the whole night.
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RSBobcat
4/3/2016 2:06 AM
Best show ever in Athens - Mem Aud - J Geils winter of '78. Houseparty, Motor City Shakedown, Southside Shuffle, Musta Got Lost, etc. Full house-everybody on their feet-funky dancin'- balcony shakin'- non-stop 2+hours......

http://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen73ohio#page/66/mod...

I think I have seen Geils live about 20 times over the years. Every show great - and the one at Mem Aud may have been the greatest.
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Monroe Slavin
4/3/2016 2:27 AM
Springsteen on cover of Time and Newsweek (simultaneously, as I recall) during spring vacation...returning to Spring quarter to find out he was playing Mem Aud on, as I recall, the first day of spring quarter--such short notice that individual seats could not be printed.

So, festival/no-assigned-seat seating and the big rush when the MemAud doors opened, with a couple being ripped off their hinges from the rush of the crowd. But we sat about half way back in the balcony with our legs over the seats in front of us.
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bobcatsquared
4/3/2016 7:42 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Springsteen on cover of Time and Newsweek (simultaneously, as I recall) during spring vacation...
Springsteen, a relatively unknown at the time, was on the cover of Time and Newsweek on Oct. 27, 1975, a couple of months after Born to Run was released.

He changed the lyrics to "Rosalita" at a concert a few months later to: "Tell him now it’s his last chance, Rosie / Tell him I ain’t no freak / ‘Cause I got my picture / On the cover of Time and Newsweek!’
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OUVan
4/3/2016 10:40 AM
RSBobcat wrote:expand_more
Best show ever in Athens - Mem Aud - J Geils winter of '78. Houseparty, Motor City Shakedown, Southside Shuffle, Musta Got Lost, etc. Full house-everybody on their feet-funky dancin'- balcony shakin'- non-stop 2+hours......

http://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen73ohio#page/66/mod...

I think I have seen Geils live about 20 times over the years. Every show great - and the one at Mem Aud may have been the greatest.
That was a great show. Serious energy. I also thought Eddie Money was fun the next year.

Another big show in 1978 or 79 was Billy Joel.

The concert lineup didn't start well for my freshman year though. The homecoming headliner in the Convo was Helen Reddy. I didn't go but reports were that it sold 300 tickets.
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OUVan
4/3/2016 10:52 AM
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The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
There are still plenty of good songwriters/lyricists out there in nearly every genre. You just aren't going to find many/any on the radio. Pandora and other similar sites have enabled me to find quite a few artists that I never would have found otherwise.
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Alan Swank
4/3/2016 11:38 AM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
The lyrics have been lacking for many years. Cole Porter, the Gershin boys and The Great American Songbook is my speed. I picked up my appreciation for the music as a freshman. I traded all my rock n roll records at Haffa's for jazz and vocalists. I would hang out at CJs when Richard Syracuse would play.
There are still plenty of good songwriters/lyricists out there in nearly every genre. You just aren't going to find many/any on the radio. Pandora and other similar sites have enabled me to find quite a few artists that I never would have found otherwise.
Radio, or at least traditional radio is something I never listen too. It's all Rhapsody for me and of course when I want to hear it real clear, a dive into the CD collection.

As for finding artists I've not heard, that's what I like about the artist station function on Rhapsody.
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Alan Swank
4/3/2016 12:03 PM
Joe McKinley wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=Alan Swank] Thanks squared. Some of my fondest memories are of concerts through the years going all the way back to Pink Floyd at Blossom in June of 1973. With the improved roads to Athens, you would think that we could get some bigger Convo shows these days. Hopefully the new president is a rock and roll fan and a golfer.


There were problems reported on campus/uptown after the Styx show and a nasty accident involving alcohol that put underage concert goers in the hospital. So, out of town ticket sales were restricted to 2,500 thereafter. In addition, a Concert Review Committee (including the Dean of Students, OU Police Chief, local fire chief, city reps, student programming staff and a few students) was established to review the contracts and eventful arrangements.
Thanks Joe. I was a dorm director from 79 - 81 and till had lots of friends in residence life for a few more years. The "word on the street" was that the dean of students office wanted to kill off concerts. The university had been successful in ending the spring riots of the last 70's and getting rid of big concerts was just one more step in eliminating the party image. The next time I see Joel Rudy, I'll have to ask him if that was truly the case or just rumors from the street. Either way, big Convo shows pretty much disappeared overnight.
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rpbobcat
4/3/2016 4:54 PM
OUVan wrote:expand_more
Best show ever in Athens - Mem Aud - J Geils winter of '78. Houseparty, Motor City Shakedown, Southside Shuffle, Musta Got Lost, etc. Full house-everybody on their feet-funky dancin'- balcony shakin'- non-stop 2+hours......

http://archive.org/stream/spectrumgreen73ohio#page/66/mod...

I think I have seen Geils live about 20 times over the years. Every show great - and the one at Mem Aud may have been the greatest.
That was a great show. Serious energy. I also thought Eddie Money was fun the next year.

Another big show in 1978 or 79 was Billy Joel.

The concert lineup didn't start well for my freshman year though. The homecoming headliner in the Convo was Helen Reddy. I didn't go but reports were that it sold 300 tickets.
I saw a lot of great concerts at O.U.,but this reminded me of a couple of "clunkers".

1.Santana played the Convo the night before a show at OSU.
No lead singer, so we had what seemed like one long guitar solo.

2.The James Gang played the convo the same week Joe Walsh left the band.
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Joe McKinley
4/3/2016 5:05 PM
I was in Concert Review Committee meetings with Joel, Jimmy Matthews and others. None were against shows. The most significant questions typically had to do with pyrotechnics and staging.

I served as a SpringFest Committee member for three years and had friends lead it the next couple. We had a lot of latitude and earned the trust of the administrators with whom we worked. The change in drinking age, though, changed the cost model and liability significantly.

The 2,500 ticket limit on out of town sales might've been a damper for promoters considering Convo shows, knowing that our history of on campus sales suggested it would be difficult to sell enough seats to turn a profit. A Tom Petty show, late in spring quarter 1981 was cancelled due to lack of sales in Athens.
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The Optimist
4/3/2016 7:03 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=Alan Swank] Thanks squared. Some of my fondest memories are of concerts through the years going all the way back to Pink Floyd at Blossom in June of 1973. With the improved roads to Athens, you would think that we could get some bigger Convo shows these days. Hopefully the new president is a rock and roll fan and a golfer.


There were problems reported on campus/uptown after the Styx show and a nasty accident involving alcohol that put underage concert goers in the hospital. So, out of town ticket sales were restricted to 2,500 thereafter. In addition, a Concert Review Committee (including the Dean of Students, OU Police Chief, local fire chief, city reps, student programming staff and a few students) was established to review the contracts and eventful arrangements.
The "word on the street" was that the dean of students office wanted to kill off concerts. The university had been successful in ending the spring riots of the last 70's and getting rid of big concerts was just one more step in eliminating the party image.

"One more step to eliminate the party school image" -Official motto of Dean of Students office for the last century

Students still a step ahead.
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giacomo
4/3/2016 7:55 PM
Thanks! I just assumed they were closed and just a relic of my good old days. How wonderful and will pay a visit next time I visit.
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OhioStunter
4/3/2016 11:09 PM
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A Tom Petty show, late in spring quarter 1981 was cancelled due to lack of sales in Athens.
Because of that, I bet he don't come around here no more.
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ytownbobcat
4/4/2016 12:04 AM
Springstein will be forever known as a punk that tried to be relevant
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