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Posted: 2/18/2017 10:39 PM
I'm not cutting on Campbell or suggestion he was holding us back. But when your best player goes down the only way to replace him is as a team...realizing the power of five instead of five relying on the power of one. This group has learned to appreciate how to play together which bodes well for this year and next.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 7:10 AM
cc-cat wrote:expand_more
I'm not cutting on Campbell or suggestion he was holding us back. But when your best player goes down the only way to replace him is as a team...realizing the power of five instead of five relying on the power of one. This group has learned to appreciate how to play together which bodes well for this year and next.
And I dont know if Mike Laster takes such a huge step if Tone doesnt go down. Do i want Tone back? Yes. Would we be better than 17-8 and 9-5 with Tone? Yes. But for next years purposes this was a strange scenario that has helped us.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 9:45 AM
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You mean when the 110 was doing the chant. The 110 (required attendance) was the largest student group there. The ROTC (required attendance) was 2nd...and the remaining group was being led by 3 old guys. Sorry, I know best in the MAC yada yada but it pains me to be able to count 60 students that voluntarily went to the game on a campus of 25,000.
You do realize the student section is that entire side of the arena? Easily 1,500-2,000 total students there...although the ones up top are generally pretty disinterested.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:03 AM
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Posted: 2/19/2017 10:42 AM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
You mean when the 110 was doing the chant. The 110 (required attendance) was the largest student group there. The ROTC (required attendance) was 2nd...and the remaining group was being led by 3 old guys. Sorry, I know best in the MAC yada yada but it pains me to be able to count 60 students that voluntarily went to the game on a campus of 25,000.
You do realize the student section is that entire side of the arena? Easily 1,500-2,000 total students there...although the ones up top are generally pretty disinterested.
This is correct. I know current students who never go in the Ozone because they want a chairback, they want to sit, and they don't want to be told what to do during a game. They love hoops, love the team, enjoy the games, but they're not "facepainters." I really wish we could stop obsessing over how other people enjoy games.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 11:26 AM
catfan28 wrote:expand_more
You mean when the 110 was doing the chant. The 110 (required attendance) was the largest student group there. The ROTC (required attendance) was 2nd...and the remaining group was being led by 3 old guys. Sorry, I know best in the MAC yada yada but it pains me to be able to count 60 students that voluntarily went to the game on a campus of 25,000.
You do realize the student section is that entire side of the arena? Easily 1,500-2,000 total students there...although the ones up top are generally pretty disinterested.
Sorry but your estimates are tremendously off. I understand some students sit higher, but scan that area and look at the faces. It's thin and littered with non-students. There is no way there were more than 500 students there yesterday that weren't required to be there.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:46 PM
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Why did Wiggins sit the bench for over 10 minutes in the second half?
Denny too. They each played about 20 mins for the game with no foul trouble.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 2:00 PM
Bobcat1998 wrote:expand_more
I'm not cutting on Campbell or suggestion he was holding us back. But when your best player goes down the only way to replace him is as a team...realizing the power of five instead of five relying on the power of one. This group has learned to appreciate how to play together which bodes well for this year and next.
And I dont know if Mike Laster takes such a huge step if Tone doesnt go down. Do i want Tone back? Yes. Would we be better than 17-8 and 9-5 with Tone? Yes. But for next years purposes this was a strange scenario that has helped us.
Laster has always had the ability - he just didn't get to play enough to show it and you can't play looking over your shoulder. With roughly a 7.5 man rotation, he can play his game and not worry about a thing.

With 7 of our first 8 coming back next year, things should be just tine if we can get any production from the incoming freshmen.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:27 PM
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With 7 of our first 8 coming back next year, things should be just tine if we can get any production from the incoming freshmen.
I think we will see addition by subtraction next year if we can find a big man to come in and allow Carter to take over for KK at the four. Not sure if that's Doug Taylor or Gareri or someone else not currently on the roster.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 3:30 PM
Andrew Ruck wrote:expand_more
You mean when the 110 was doing the chant. The 110 (required attendance) was the largest student group there. The ROTC (required attendance) was 2nd...and the remaining group was being led by 3 old guys. Sorry, I know best in the MAC yada yada but it pains me to be able to count 60 students that voluntarily went to the game on a campus of 25,000.
You do realize the student section is that entire side of the arena? Easily 1,500-2,000 total students there...although the ones up top are generally pretty disinterested.
Sorry but your estimates are tremendously off. I understand some students sit higher, but scan that area and look at the faces. It's thin and littered with non-students. There is no way there were more than 500 students there yesterday that weren't required to be there.
Andrew, what made you change your estimate from 60 to 500? That's quite a leap. Just curious. Crowd was decent yesterday, whoever they were.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:04 PM
After years of faithfully following along on webcasts and catching games when we have played around Northeast Ohio, it felt great to be back in the Convo yesterday. Jaaron is an absolute joy to watch distribute the ball to his teammates. Given some of the leads we have coughed up this year, I didn't relax even when we were up 20+. There was some palpable tension when it got down to 10, but hats off to the team for settling down and running BG out of the gym to finish strong. If Saul was smiling during "winning team/losing team," I think that show of fortitude from the players was one reason why.

Last note: I unapologetically loved Lou's "slamurai warrior" call on Jason Carter's dunk late in the game. I'm not normally a fan of PA announcers doing shtick, but Lou is really, really good.
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Posted: 2/19/2017 4:46 PM
That one got a chuckle out of me too.
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Posted: 2/20/2017 8:37 AM
GroverBall wrote:expand_more
You mean when the 110 was doing the chant. The 110 (required attendance) was the largest student group there. The ROTC (required attendance) was 2nd...and the remaining group was being led by 3 old guys. Sorry, I know best in the MAC yada yada but it pains me to be able to count 60 students that voluntarily went to the game on a campus of 25,000.
You do realize the student section is that entire side of the arena? Easily 1,500-2,000 total students there...although the ones up top are generally pretty disinterested.
Sorry but your estimates are tremendously off. I understand some students sit higher, but scan that area and look at the faces. It's thin and littered with non-students. There is no way there were more than 500 students there yesterday that weren't required to be there.
Andrew, what made you change your estimate from 60 to 500? That's quite a leap. Just curious. Crowd was decent yesterday, whoever they were.
The 60 I mentioned initially was my breakdown of students actually in the Ozone section. And it wasn't an estimate, I counted them. But yes, I wrongly said "went to the game" instead of "sat in the Ozone"

Beyond that, it is hard to say, but judging off what I saw above the Ozone in the 100 section and 200 sections, I would say less than 500 easily. But I understand they could be scattered everywhere. There's just no chance at all there was 1,500-2,000 active non-100, non-ROTC students there.

Yes the overall crowd was good, no complaints. When I complain about student crowd I am fearing for the future. I can't envision alumni who never went the game as students will become super fans after graduation. Falling student numbers doesn't bode well for future fan support.
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Posted: 2/20/2017 9:06 AM
That's funny

I pulled down my original post as I said in response to the poster above it ..."there is probably not many who are more astute about who is where and how many than Mr Ruck. He can probably tell you when the band moved up and how much of the seating they replace...all told he probably counted them"

Thanks for verifying.

I share your concerns as the loud , boisterous and vocal bunch that left a mark on Pollitz, multiple Can't players, and many others is..... leaving the building....
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