I've always held the belief that Archie, like his brother Sean, would hold out for a BIG job if he ever left UD. (i.e. not a lower level B1G school) The Alma Mater calling from the ACC is probably big enough to lure him out of Dayton.

N.C. St. is a tough, tough job. Just ask all the coaches who came after Valvano, and when Valvano coached there, it was a different era. He was not afraid to bend the rules.

If Archie were to leave, and I'm hearing that Dayton will do everything it can to keep him, Illinois would be a far better fit. Big 10 hoops should be an easier road to hoe over the next few years than the ACC, at least until Coach K and Ol' Roy move on...

TOS - often imitated, never quite duplicated!

Maybe, but if I'm Archie, I'm waiting on Indiana or Ohio State to open up. He's on the short list, IMO, and I think his landing spot is bigger than NC St.

It is amazing that Crean was brought in to get IU off the mat post Sampson. He has done that and made them credible again yet the general populace has ne er taken a shine to him. He gets booed at HS games and compared to Knight. He will never be Knight and that makes him not good enough for many . He called out some slackers on the team the other day for not leading and not contributing to anything but their dreams of the NBA and the public melted down. Calipari did the same thing and put his player through a 3 1/2 hour practice. Coach K took teeam gear away and barred them from the locker room but Crean gets chastised for calling Blackmon out for being self serving and screwing with the locker room.

Archie is the hot name for the last 8 weeks at NC St. Illinois would love to throw money at him and compliment the Lovie hire. New AD has the boosters blessing. He just made a stellar Vball hire for 300K. Dayton and those schools that lose an Archie or Cuonzo will be hustling as well.

This is going to be an interesting Coaching Carousel. Mizzou, Illini and a few more will be interesting to see how they go. There are a good many fanbases that are getting itchy.

I am not a Crean fan but he has righted that ship and has it headed in the right direction. They want National Championships and Blue Blood status restored. They will be looking for a saviour but I am not sure Glass will pull that string. Oddly enough Purdue and Painter are playing well enough to make any Hoosier fan livid

Yep.

You make a good point re: Itchy fan bases. This will be an interesting spring for sure. The IU thing is interesting because of where they were when Crean started. They were in a situation that compared to how Cronin started at UC - bottom of the barrel, with recruiting being in shambles. I think IU would be foolish to cut ties right now.

Unless something magical happens this Spring I'd have to say very unlikely.

The Reason Archie would leave is dollars, otherwise I agree with you bshott. He's in the $1mil range from what I understand. B1G and ACC schools would probably triple that.

Think about Shaka Smart, who was well paid and super successful at VCU. He held out for awhile until Texas came calling with, I think, around $3 million.

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/miller-highest-paid... /

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/08/26/texas-sha...

I'd say how much Gene Smith, or the NC State AD are willing to pay depends on how much pressure they are under to win, and what kind of outside the budget money they get to hire the right coach. I'm in agreement, and I'm biased - Archie is in one of the top 15-20% of jobs in college basketball. UD is a better job than some big money conference schools, although part of that is the result of what Archie and his staff have accomplished.

I would love to have enough money that you could justify giving up $250K a year to pay a coach. I wouldn't do it but I'd love to have that kind of money.

NC State and the boosters want Archie. If he ends up at State, he will make Gottfried money or more - I'm guessing $3 million as others will be throwing money at him as well.