Our team is impacted big time and will be for the foreseeable future but the portal & NIL are two genies that are not going back into the bottle.

I think allowing kids to transfer would alleviate that sense of inequality.

Like I said, there are many circumstances in which I think it's fair to transfer, but just simply allowing the hundreds of schools outside the P5 to just act as a farm system isn't any more fair.

I don't disagree with what he tweeted. I'm also a little confused with the deletion of the tweet. What is deleting, anyway? It's already out there, it's already been seen and copied. Other than a virtue signaling "my bad," what's the point of deletion? The words came out and they can't be un-said.

Same here. I'm not even so sure that the portal doesn't benefit non-P5 teams just as much, if not more, than P5s.

My 2 cents: This is much ado about nothing. Is anyone going to even remember this tweet/delete when next season starts? The fact Boals was a finalist for the Butler job a year ago was WAY bigger news, and I imagine most folks now hardly remember that dalliance even happened.

I, for one, am happy Jeff Boals is our coach and think he has done well through four seasons coaching his alma mater. Let's focus on the portal news now and move on from this thread.

I haven't seen the raw data, but shared this in another thread somewhere. Hard to believe, but the transfer portal thing has come up before on Bobcatattack.com.

Here's an interesting link: https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2021/coll... /

A few interesting things (assuming I'm interpreting this right):

1) Transfers were already way up before the new transfer rule. They rose 76% between 2012 and 2020.
2) Only 19% of transfers were "upward" -- meaning that a player moved from a mid-major or lower to a P5 school. Of that 19%, only 52 players (3.5% of transfers) moved from a mid-major to a P5 school.
3) More P5 players transferred to mid-majors than vice versa.
4) The largest group of transfers are "downward"
5) College athletes transfer at a much lower rate than college students in general. But only college athletes get accused of not caring about academics when they do it.


The link doesn't have data on this, but also very curious to know of the 52 players who transferred up from mid-major to P5, how many would have exhausted their eligibility without the Covid year. Worth remembering that we lost BVP, but without Covid he just graduates and that's that. I suspect that 52 number may actually be a little inflated as a result.

Edit: Realized that by the above link's definition, we're not a mid-major and are in the "other D1 schools group" -- they define mid-major as non P5 schools that had multiple NCAA tournament bids within the last 5 years. MAC doesn't qualify.

Hardly anyone yes. But the ones who do remember will the ones that it actually matters that they remember. That's why they'll make sure that they remember.

The data shared was only basketball players. So I suspect the answer is yes, unless football players transfer at a much, much higher rate than basketball players.

Another one I'd want to know - Players named to their conference's 1st, 2nd or all-freshman team AND would be eligible to play right away if they transferred following that season (meaning had not already used their one free transfer OR would be considered a grad transfer). What percentage of that group enters the portal vs stays put.

To me, it doesn't really matter if a player transfers up to P5 or makes a lateral move. Good players transferring out of Ohio hurts regardless of where they end up.

Example - Ryan Taylor leaving for Evansville.

The free transfer + NIL resources that the P5 have access to creates the system that allows big programs to poach from a conference like the MAC. Its not just NIL and its not just the transfer rule, its the combination of both that opens the door wide open and creates a clear disadvantage for schools that don't have the resources to pay up. I think everybody here can see that.

Having a player sit out a year would provide a little balance in the equation, IMO.

I don't have any issue when a player obtains their degree and decides to transfer. In that scenario, the player has fulfilled their commitment to the university.

"I also want to add that I'm not one to accept our program as a funnel to a P5 school. We're not a AAA baseball team. We win games in March no matter the opponent and that should be the standard for Ohio hoops forever."

+1 SpongeBob

I wish more people felt this way.

Non P5 schools like ours have always been at a disadvantage as we have never had the resources P5 schools have. We always hope for the NCAA tournament and a win, or maybe even 2, but when that happens our coach is poached by a P5. As for a transfer having to sit out a year I'm all for it as long as a head coach is required to do the same when moving on for greener pastures.