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bornacatfan
3/29/2017 10:23 AM
OU_Country wrote:expand_more
I'm not sure they're building a new arena. I was of the understanding they were renovating the Palumbo Center that's there now.
I liked the Palumbo Center. Nice locker rooms, weight room is open and airy, Practice Gym!, comfy seats (not but a 1000 regualrly used), good sightlines and easy to navigate, Coaches offices are easy to find and nice. I think it could use some renovations but that is not gonna help till you get a vision from the AD and a coach.....oooops. OK. Hmmmm....
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Ted Thompson
3/29/2017 11:03 AM
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Well, at least our football team is better than Gonzaga's.
And yet where are we (& the MAC) wasting resources where it's more difficult to get national exposure? Football.
So Football is where we're wasting resources? What about hockey, soccer or any other program? If football goes away, do you think that money gets allocated to other sports? If an activity in a budget goes away, then that money goes away. The MAC has a TV contract because of football.

I would argue the MAC receives most of its exposure due to football. It has alumni who are stars in the NFL, major Bowl games, etc. You're competing against 120 schools instead of 350. The advent of the one-and-done has really impacted MAC basketball.

Again, the decision to support basketball is independent. Gonzaga invests in basketball because basketball brings in real revenue. Unfortunately, that is not the case in the MAC.
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Recovering Journalist
3/29/2017 11:34 AM
Ted Thompson wrote:expand_more
Well, at least our football team is better than Gonzaga's.
And yet where are we (& the MAC) wasting resources where it's more difficult to get national exposure? Football.
So Football is where we're wasting resources? What about hockey, soccer or any other program? If football goes away, do you think that money gets allocated to other sports? If an activity in a budget goes away, then that money goes away. The MAC has a TV contract because of football.

I would argue the MAC receives most of its exposure due to football. It has alumni who are stars in the NFL, major Bowl games, etc. You're competing against 120 schools instead of 350. The advent of the one-and-done has really impacted MAC basketball.

Again, the decision to support basketball is independent. Gonzaga invests in basketball because basketball brings in real revenue. Unfortunately, that is not the case in the MAC.
Thread derailment coming...

I think you're both right, but the long-term trends in football are not good. It's become an impossible race to even remotely keep up with the Power Five in football, especially long-term. Western Michigan was the best MAC team that I've ever seen, and an OK Wisconsin squad took them out. The whole program will likely fall back to earth this year. It's unsustainable.

Beyond that, football is slowly dying. They have not solved the concussion riddle and probably never will, which will lead to fewer kids playing, fewer fans watching and massive legal liabilities for the programs that soldier on. The entertainment wing has similarly reached the busting point of its bubble, with ugly long-term prospects. The systems that overinflated its value are falling apart. TV is changing and fewer and fewer people are paying for ESPN and the bloated cable packages that sustain both the D1 bluebloods and the bottomfeeders in the G5. Attendance is down, TV ratings are down. Investors look at long-term trends. As such, if football were a stock, it would be a sell in my book.
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OU_Country
3/29/2017 12:01 PM
Ted, RecovJourno, both of you make legitimate points. I side on the side of The MAC is never going to be able to keep up with the Joneses in football. The system is fully rigged against The MAC and conferences like it to be able to compete with "the big boys". Spending money trying to do so, to me, feels like a waste for that reason alone.

And, I see how much and extra 500k-1mil spent in basketball can make a difference in recruiting/scheduling, if spent wisely. Of course that's assuming the money is directed in such a manner away from football to other sports including basketball. You're right that it might just go away completely rather than be spent across all other sports. I also hear the point about the notoriety given to MAC Alumni in the NFL, something basketball doesn't get much anymore as you noted.
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