Ohio Basketball Topic
Topic: WKU is much better than last season unfortunately
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greencat
12/12/2017 3:19 PM
As isolated as Murray/Martin seems, it's only 94 miles from Martin to Austin Peay which isn't far from WKU to the north or Vandy/Belmont/Lipscomb/TSU to the south. A swing through that part of the world could easily yield 3 or 4 road games with a minimal of travel expenses. TSU is maybe the one to avoid because of the "part of town" it's in and nobody goes to their games. Ohio at Belmont back when JC was coach didn't sell out but it was pretty full. Lipscomb would be thrilled to get a good MAC team to visit their place. They played road games at Texas and Alabama this season but the only decent visiting team was Belmont which is literally up the street from them.
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bshot44
12/12/2017 4:00 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
however, eastern is not much east at all. Western is farther west than eastern is east.
Actually not. EKU (Richmond, KY) is just a little over 100 miles from WV border (the next state east of KY)

WKU (Bowling Green, KY) is actually almost 200 miles from Illinois/Missouri border (the next state west of KY)

I, too, lived over in that area for about 5 years. Longest five years of my life, ha!

It certainly has a culture all its own ... no doubt about that!
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bshot44
12/12/2017 4:09 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
As isolated as Murray/Martin seems, it's only 94 miles from Martin to Austin Peay which isn't far from WKU to the north or Vandy/Belmont/Lipscomb/TSU to the south. A swing through that part of the world could easily yield 3 or 4 road games with a minimal of travel expenses. TSU is maybe the one to avoid because of the "part of town" it's in and nobody goes to their games. Ohio at Belmont back when JC was coach didn't sell out but it was pretty full. Lipscomb would be thrilled to get a good MAC team to visit their place. They played road games at Texas and Alabama this season but the only decent visiting team was Belmont which is literally up the street from them.
Austin Peay used to be a great game to get ... but they have fallen to the bottom of the OVC. Clarksville is just up the road from Nashville.

Lipscomb wouldn't really be a game Ohio should travel for. They're on the lower end of the D1 scale.

TSU, while it's not in a great part of town, it's not that bad. I've been in far worse places. They have a decent arena ... but you are right ... rarely does anyone ever show up. But they've far more competitive the last five years in that league than Peay.

UTM is also a team Ohio should not travel too. They rarely, if ever, get a decent team to come to their place. Arkansas State is about as good as it gets for them. That's a team that should be traveling to the Convo for a game ... not the other way around, ha!

Honestly, Ohio should not be traveling to any OVC team with maybe the exception of Murray, Belmont, EKU or Morehead. Outside that, the rest of the league is pretty bad. And EKU/Morehead would only be for proximity sake.

If Ohio is going to hit the open road (theoretically) ... maybe a Valpo/Butler/Purdue/IU/IPFW/ND swing wouldn't be a bad idea...some combo of two of those (mid major/P5)

Same thing for Pitt/Duquesne/Robert Morris/Penn State ... or head to Philly for Drexel/St. Joe/Temple/Villanova/Lasalle/Penn

Or Maryland/GW/Towson/Geo Mason/Georgetown/Navy

This is why I'd love to sit in on scheduling ... seems like a lot of potential opportunities for somewhat easy bus trips .... I'm very curious why they don't work out? Why we didn't do another game when we were in Maryland is a head-scratcher?
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OhioCatFan
12/12/2017 4:25 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
however, eastern is not much east at all. Western is farther west than eastern is east.
Actually not. EKU (Richmond, KY) is just a little over 100 miles from WV border (the next state east of KY)

WKU (Bowling Green, KY) is actually almost 200 miles from Illinois/Missouri border (the next state west of KY)

. . .
Well, it depends on how you measure it. I was looking at the distance from the geographical center of Kentucky, which is very close to Nicholasville. From Nicholasville to Richmond is about 24 miles. From Nicholasville to Bowling Green is about 150 miles. All a matter of perspective, I guess.
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Jeff McKinney
12/12/2017 7:48 PM
bshot44 wrote:expand_more
As isolated as Murray/Martin seems, it's only 94 miles from Martin to Austin Peay which isn't far from WKU to the north or Vandy/Belmont/Lipscomb/TSU to the south. A swing through that part of the world could easily yield 3 or 4 road games with a minimal of travel expenses. TSU is maybe the one to avoid because of the "part of town" it's in and nobody goes to their games. Ohio at Belmont back when JC was coach didn't sell out but it was pretty full. Lipscomb would be thrilled to get a good MAC team to visit their place. They played road games at Texas and Alabama this season but the only decent visiting team was Belmont which is literally up the street from them.
Lipscomb wouldn't really be a game Ohio should travel for. They're on the lower end of the D1 scale.
I disagree about Lipscomb. I realize you have to look at the long term and overall place of the school in the Div I food chain, but competitively, they're good. They are certainly on a par with Florida Gulf Coast now in their league. I had a chance to see them play at Austin Peay last season. I was really impressed. I would have no problem with a home and home with them. And it would be good to schedule another game or two while in that area. As others have pointed out, its absolutely rich with mid major schools. Of course, you also have Vanderbilt.
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greencat
12/12/2017 7:57 PM
Jeff McKinney wrote:expand_more
As isolated as Murray/Martin seems, it's only 94 miles from Martin to Austin Peay which isn't far from WKU to the north or Vandy/Belmont/Lipscomb/TSU to the south. A swing through that part of the world could easily yield 3 or 4 road games with a minimal of travel expenses. TSU is maybe the one to avoid because of the "part of town" it's in and nobody goes to their games. Ohio at Belmont back when JC was coach didn't sell out but it was pretty full. Lipscomb would be thrilled to get a good MAC team to visit their place. They played road games at Texas and Alabama this season but the only decent visiting team was Belmont which is literally up the street from them.
Lipscomb wouldn't really be a game Ohio should travel for. They're on the lower end of the D1 scale.
I disagree about Lipscomb. I realize you have to look at the long term and overall place of the school in the Div I food chain, but competitively, they're good. They are certainly on a par with Florida Gulf Coast now in their league. I had a chance to see them play at Austin Peay last season. I was really impressed. I would have no problem with a home and home with them. And it would be good to schedule another game or two while in that area. As others have pointed out, its absolutely rich with mid major schools. Of course, you also have Vanderbilt.
Lipscomb swept two from perennial big dance Belmont already this season and APSU has a new coach...their two best players are freshmen and the one named Taylor looked like he could play for anybody when I saw them in person.

Or the scenic more mountainous swing of Radford/ETSU/UNC-Ashville or Appy St. or ut-Chattanooga early when the leaves are turning. I would try to make the time to be at those...enjoying both basketball and scenic mountains. Yes, I do have a selfish agenda in this!! LOL!
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greencat
12/12/2017 8:06 PM
Before somebody asks,

ETSU to UNC Asheville is 59 miles.
ETSU to Appy State is 55 miles.
Appy to UNC-A is 83 miles.
Radford to ETSU is 145 miles.
Radford to Appy is 146 miles.

ut-Chattanooga not all that close after all.
Last Edited: 12/12/2017 8:08:21 PM by greencat
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yamaha45701
12/12/2017 11:38 PM
The geographical center of Kentucky is on the McDaniels farm just northwest of Lebanon, Kentucky in Marion County. No where near Nicholasville. One day a carload of surveyors showed up in 1965 and put a pin just past the barn. I know because I knew the family. We don’t have much down in Lebanon/Marion County besides Makers Mark whiskey, pretty women, and beautiful country vistas, so we’re not going to let those Nicholasvillians take credit for being the center of Kentucky!
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OhioCatFan
12/13/2017 12:51 AM
yamaha45701 wrote:expand_more
The geographical center of Kentucky is on the McDaniels farm just northwest of Lebanon, Kentucky in Marion County. No where near Nicholasville. One day a carload of surveyors showed up in 1965 and put a pin just past the barn. I know because I knew the family. We don’t have much down in Lebanon/Marion County besides Makers Mark whiskey, pretty women, and beautiful country vistas, so we’re not going to let those Nicholasvillians take credit for being the center of Kentucky!
Well, I just went with what Google Maps told me was the geographical center. I'll accept your revision as being more accurate, since you have first-hand experience with that carload of surveyors. I'll assume that they weren't drunk like the surveyors that plotted the OHIO campus where it is rather than where it was supposed to be -- in what is now The Plains. And, my Mom always told me not to argue with a carload of surveyors! ;-)

I've recalculated the mileage, and I'm happy to report that BG is still farther away from the true center of the state -- Lebanon -- than is Richmond. The approximate numbers (within +/- 5 percent) are: Lebanon to Richmond, 62 miles; and Lebanon to BG, 110 miles.
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greencat
12/13/2017 9:54 AM
I can assure you both that Kentucky has always been known for fast girls and pretty horses. But I hope UK names the next arena something other than "Rupp." (yes, I know it's not on campus)
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greencat
12/13/2017 9:58 AM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Before somebody asks,

ETSU to UNC Asheville is 59 miles.
ETSU to Appy State is 55 miles.
Appy to UNC-A is 83 miles.
Radford to ETSU is 145 miles.
Radford to Appy is 146 miles.

ut-Chattanooga not all that close after all.
And I left one out.

UNC-A to Larry Hunter's WCU... 54 miles
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crackerbaby00
12/13/2017 12:28 PM
I'd be game for Asheville, Boone, or WCU. I can make those trips pretty easily from Raleigh
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J.B.Hoy
12/13/2017 12:43 PM
yamaha45701 wrote:expand_more
The geographical center of Kentucky is on the McDaniels farm just northwest of Lebanon, Kentucky in Marion County. No where near Nicholasville. One day a carload of surveyors showed up in 1965 and put a pin just past the barn. I know because I knew the family. We don’t have much down in Lebanon/Marion County besides Makers Mark whiskey, pretty women, and beautiful country vistas, so we’re not going to let those Nicholasvillians take credit for being the center of Kentucky!
Sorry, can't resist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqGdKo2TZE
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