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Topic: Official Game 25 Thread: Kent St.
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Cats5
2/14/2025 8:58 PM
I hope so. If he’s making mistakes like that, we should be playing Evans also.
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FearLeon
2/14/2025 8:59 PM
potstirred wrote:expand_more
Think the lazy pass inbounds and then the foul got AJC in Boals doghouse
He is either benched or Clayton pulled a Roberto Duran.
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GoCats105
2/14/2025 9:03 PM
We take some really dumb shots, man. Haven't had a basket since the 8 minute mark.
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Cats5
2/14/2025 9:05 PM
MAC refs at their finest
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Felix
2/14/2025 9:11 PM
Three road wins! Just life on the road with Jeff Boals!
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Bobcat Love
2/14/2025 9:12 PM
Abysmal loss.

We dribble the air out of the ball, make awful decisions, and don’t particularly care to rebound.

Disheartening.
Last Edited: 2/14/2025 9:12:37 PM by Bobcat Love
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OUbobcat9092
2/14/2025 9:18 PM
The no call that Boals was protesting cost us the game. It was a 4 pt swing.

If Pavs gets to shoot FTs on that, we are up several instead of down two and fouling.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
2/14/2025 9:24 PM
OUbobcat9092 wrote:expand_more
The no call that Boals was protesting cost us the game. It was a 4 pt swing.

If Pavs gets to shoot FTs on that, we are up several instead of down two and fouling.
We were down two at the time, so even if he makes both free throws we are tied, not up several.
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Bobcat1998
2/14/2025 9:29 PM
Truth is we will NEVER win with AJB and AJC scoring a COMBINED 14 pts with TWO FREAKING REBOUNDS!!
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Ohio69
2/14/2025 9:51 PM
t’s amazing Clayton is playing. Dude looks like he’s less than 50%. Maybe less than 25%….

Excellent effort tonight. Last 2 minutes sucked. Coulda taken that one for sure.

Keep fighting boys….
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MonroeClassmate
2/14/2025 10:00 PM
What's the record for causing shot clock violations in a half--good defense Bobcats.

That was a game the Bobcats gave a way with a hand from the refs. The inbounds pass, not getting a shot off before the half, Elliott missing the front end of a free throw and missing the back end of the next and Pat letting a 6'8" maul him 50 feet from the basket--how many guys were open on all the Kent double teams? DJ would have had 20 assists in this game the way the guys were shooting and all the doubling.

Sad one to attend when at about the 2 minute mark OHIO was in control of the results and crapped the bed.

Oh, and Reef was out for a while with what looked like a split lip and likely why he didn't get more shots off in the first half.
Last Edited: 2/14/2025 10:01:58 PM by MonroeClassmate
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FearLeon
2/14/2025 10:18 PM
I swear we lead the country in teams tying us up with the ball. This team is not strong with the ball. To sit Clayton for nearly the last 10 minutes of the game and then bring him in with 15 seconds left to shoot a three cold off the bench sure was something. If Clayton is only 50% healthy (who knows?) then why play him? Did Boals bench him or did Clayton ask to be taken out?
Last Edited: 2/14/2025 10:49:11 PM by FearLeon
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Ohio69
2/14/2025 11:28 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
If Clayton is only 50% healthy (who knows?) then why play him? Did Boals bench him or did Clayton ask to be taken out?
Would have preferred a play for Mitchel who showed up tonight big time. Sometimes you tell Kirk Gibson to warm up and then you send them out there.

Onward….
Last Edited: 2/14/2025 11:31:57 PM by Ohio69
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OhioCatFan
2/15/2025 12:24 AM
That "no call" on a first-class football move that reminded me of fullback knocking people over probably cost us the game, IMHO.
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MonroeClassmate
2/15/2025 8:10 AM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
That "no call" on a first-class football move that reminded me of fullback knocking people over probably cost us the game, IMHO.
What about the and one Kent guard number 11 made? Sure looked like he cleared Pav out with his left arm before flipping the ball up? Looked like an offensive foul from where I was sitting and Boals flew off the bench apparently feeling the same?
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MonroeClassmate
2/15/2025 8:19 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
I swear we lead the country in teams tying us up with the ball. This team is not strong with the ball.
You are right about that!

So frustrating watching knowing there was Kent help coming whenever an OHIO player tried making a move. Kent must know or think they know that OUr players cannot pass to the obvious unguarded teammate.

Clayton was benched.

I don't know why when Number 1 on Kent picked up number four and was removed by Sendi why Boals didn't have Clayton and Vic on the floor at the same time? Having two bigs out there may have limited the help defense that Kent employed so effectively.
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Bobcat1996
2/15/2025 8:53 AM
Tough loss! However, I can see the Bobcats going on a little run these next five or six games. Only drop one game and that gives them a shot at the three seed, no worse than four seed.
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
2/15/2025 9:05 AM
Last night's game was a pretty good encapsulation of this team. We shoot well, but our defense turns bad offensive teams into pretty good ones, and good offensive teams into elite teams.
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FearLeon
2/15/2025 9:20 AM
Bobcat1996 wrote:expand_more
Tough loss! However, I can see the Bobcats going on a little run these next five or six games. Only drop one game and that gives them a shot at the three seed, no worse than four seed.
With Akron, Toledo, and Miami on the schedule…you have to assume those are probably going to be three losses.


And you don’t want to play in the 4-5 game. Should we get lucky to win that game most likely against Kent, then you get Akron in the semifinals.


I’d rather finish sixth or seventh and yes, believe it or not, play Toledo in round one. This team does not have a prayer at finishing in third place. Finish sixth or seventh, you don’t get Akron in the semifinals. But at this stage with this team, just winning one game in Cleveland is going to be a huge accomplishment no matter the seeding
Last Edited: 2/15/2025 9:22:38 AM by FearLeon
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Pete Chouteau
2/15/2025 10:15 AM
I don't see any reason in seed wishes. Win every game, dammit.

There's 5 teams with winning conference records and chances are we have to run through 3 of those 5 to win the tournament.

Plotting for a seed simply delays the Akron Dragon and ignores the concept that whatever 2nd tier team knocks them off has found something that they're not showing right now.
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Clown Ohio Fan
2/15/2025 10:35 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Tough loss! However, I can see the Bobcats going on a little run these next five or six games. Only drop one game and that gives them a shot at the three seed, no worse than four seed.
With Akron, Toledo, and Miami on the schedule…you have to assume those are probably going to be three losses
You’re including Miami at home as an assumed loss when we nearly beat them without Clayton on the road?! I respect most of your posts but you’ve gone a little overboard lately with the pessimism even if some of it is deserved.

Miami at home is a toss-up. Toledo will be a tough road contest and Akron is always going to be a very hard game but assuming losses in all three is a bit much even if it does end up playing out that way.
Last Edited: 2/15/2025 10:37:31 AM by Clown Ohio Fan
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Clown Ohio Fan
2/15/2025 10:45 AM
Pete Chouteau wrote:expand_more
I don't see any reason in seed wishes. Win every game, dammit.

There's 5 teams with winning conference records and chances are we have to run through 3 of those 5 to win the tournament.

Plotting for a seed simply delays the Akron Dragon and ignores the concept that whatever 2nd tier team knocks them off has found something that they're not showing right now.
I agree 100%

There should only be one focus for this team right now and that’s to attempt to figure things out and play their best basketball heading into Cleveland. While I understand the point about playing for seeding, Ohio has been too inconsistent to truly believe any path will be beneficial outside of the very unlikely scenario they get the 3-seed and avoid Akron in the semis.
Last Edited: 2/15/2025 10:46:54 AM by Clown Ohio Fan
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spongeBOB CATpants
2/15/2025 11:07 AM
I agree this team is very weak with the ball, both rebounding and especially when the defense collapses. This film is going to hurt us, the way to stop the our 3 ball is to collapse on the dribble drive and cause a jump ball or steal. And its not just Pav that this happens too, they collapsed and doubled just about every time we drove within 7-8 ft of the rim and shut it down every single time.

We just don't have anybody outside of Reef that can beat their man off the dribble AND finish at the rim. The defense can expect a kick out and it was glaring last night.

Clayton has lost his powers. Its astonishing really. Thought that first 3 he hit was going to be a great sign but he just tanked after that. Sad to see because I like the kid a lot and would put him right up there with the best of them in regards to talent.
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GraffZ06
2/15/2025 12:01 PM
spongeBOB CATpants wrote:expand_more
We just don't have anybody outside of Reef that can beat their man off the dribble AND finish at the rim. The defense can expect a kick out and it was glaring last night.
I agree with all of your post except the above. We actually have 2 others who CAN even if they don't do it often.

AJ Brown and Elijah Elliott.

It's why I'm high on the idea of Elliott at PG next year, even if he hasn't blown the doors off statistically as a fr yet. He has great size for a PG. Great quickness. Can handle the ball. Can put in on the deck and get by people. And he's PLENTY athletic enough to finish around the rim.

What he lacks is assists (I think that comes with time and maturity) and outside shooting (which is why he would ideally be paired with a really good 3pt shooter at the 2 along with Brown at the 3).

AJ Brown, could be so much more than a catch and shoot 3pt guy who scores 12 a night. You saw flashes when Clayton was out and we basically had no other options. Multiple times he drove baseline and either got to the rim or got fouled (87% FT shooter, he should be trying to get there 10 times a night). And at 6'4 with decent hops and long arms he can elevate inside even if he isn't all that strong.

I think if you let Elliott break ppl down with the dribble and finish or kick to shooters (SG + Brown + Hadaway). Combined with a big who can post up and create easy buckets or post-post passes with Hadaway, or draw defense and kick to shooters. Then add AJB being "the man" and both driving and shooting. That becomes such a more balanced and intimidating offense that can do it all.

This year is a lot of drive and get stuffed/tied up/stripped in the paint or just launch 3s and hope.

Reef may be the only guy on this years team with the skills and guts to try and carry us come March. I think Jeff knows it too and it might be part of the reason Clayton is slightly less motivated/thrilled/engaged recently.
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bobcat 2000
2/15/2025 12:19 PM
a game like this one combined with all the other losses makes one question what boals is doing as a coach. he doesnt seem to be doing the best job so far.
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