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Topic: Fire Jeff Boals!
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cbarber357
1/22/2026 9:53 PM
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Maybe your hubby will win two games next year, Brooke.
Truth hurts SBH! You were a huge supporter of the former AD and the way she mistreated employees. You know she treated Coach Boals differently. How else can you explain her making Boals the top paid coach in the league and ignoring what the two time MAC football coach of the year accomplished? Guessing you don't mind ending up as a fifth seed or an occasional third seed yearly for the amount of money Boals is earning? By the way, your memory must be slipping. I have told you before, no relation to Coach Albin. I'm just a fan who appreciated a MAC football title for the first time in over a half of century and an unprecedented three consecutive ten win seasons.
Hey, remember when you were constantly going on and on about how Bob Boldon getting a new contract was a travesty as well?

Maybe your bad opinions would be better as inside thoughts from now on. Literally nobody else cares to hear you go on and on about how Cromer was a bad AD because like 3 men you’ve (self) reportedly spoken to didn’t get along with their female boss.
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Alan Swank
1/23/2026 2:32 PM
Just saw our game with Miami has been moved to Friday night, Feb. 13 at 8:00. Yes moved, not flexed, whatever that means.
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M.D.W.S.T
1/23/2026 3:25 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Just saw our game with Miami has been moved to Friday night, Feb. 13 at 8:00. Yes moved, not flexed, whatever that means.
"Honey, I've got good news and bad news about our valentines day plans..."
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IceCat76
1/23/2026 3:58 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
Just saw our game with Miami has been moved to Friday night, Feb. 13 at 8:00. Yes moved, not flexed, whatever that means.
OU website says "flexed"

"Ohio Men's Basketball Game at Miami Flexed to Feb. 13 on ESPNU"
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/23/2026 10:05 PM
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Not a great sign for Jeff Boals that even his defenders can't make a case for his actual performance.
Don't know coach Boals at all. Seems very likeable. He's won the MACC and an NCAA game which got Ohio a lot of publicity. His teams regularly finish the MAC regular season in the top 4 including 2nd just last year. And, when you are top 4 team you are a threat to in in Cleveland. A coach like that doesn't need to be fired. At all. Don't need to make any sort of other detailed case.

Now, if there is a few years of 5-6-7th place finishes then the seat gets hot at Ohio for sure, no matter who the coach is.

These game by game overreaction posts crack me up. Settle down fellas. Its a struggle this year. Streaky team. Nobody knows what next year holds. Could easily bring in transfers and win the MAC. Nobody knows.....

Go Bobcats.
+1. These folks are pure entertainment.

Program seems to be in great shape. Top of the conference is 20 points better than us at home. We're 11-10, 5-4 in the MAC.

What's the case for Boals, exactly?
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FearLeon
1/23/2026 10:17 PM
Yes.

It’s gross to watch.

And it’s time.

How many non-division one basketball players is this coaching staff going to give scholarships too?

Boals is not built to coach or construct a roster in the NIL/Portal era.

Whatever NIL $$$$ coming in now will be less next year.

But Boals will get one lame duck year in 2026-2027.

Get ready for games next season against Athens Tech, Ohio Wesleyan, Ohio Northern and Cincinnati School For The Blind.
Last Edited: 1/23/2026 11:04:00 PM by FearLeon
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mid70sbobcat
1/24/2026 12:13 AM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Yes.

It’s gross to watch.

And it’s time.

How many non-division one basketball players is this coaching staff going to give scholarships too?

Boals is not built to coach or construct a roster in the NIL/Portal era.

Whatever NIL $$$$ coming in now will be less next year.

But Boals will get one lame duck year in 2026-2027.

Get ready for games next season against Athens Tech, Ohio Wesleyan, Ohio Northern and Cincinnati School For The Blind.
Can I pay for a few sessions of counseling for you?

College basketball is a "game", not a life-or-death situation.

His winning percentage is almost the same as John Groce. As they said the show Dragnet "just the facts ma'am."

The sun will rise tomorrow.
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Alan Swank
1/24/2026 9:37 AM
4422 against arguably your number one rival in basketball with your former coach coming to town and a game that was promoted as a Green and White game. Move it from a Saturday game that would have easily had twice as many fans and this is what you get. Plus that Adams guy - the color guy - I've not sure iI've heard so much hyperbole in my entire life. Just a miserable two hours unless you are an Akron fan.
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greencat
1/24/2026 9:45 AM
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[QUOTE=FearLeon] Yes.


College basketball is a "game", not a life-or-death situation.
While college hoops is not open heart surgery, when you have a 13,000 seat arena and the highest paid coach, it's acceptable to want better than whatever adjective you want to describe that first half last night.

I bet Indiana and Vanderbilt are happy they didn't settle for "oh well, let's just keep getting our ass kicked in football since we have a good school and educate the kids" when the option to also win is available.
Last Edited: 1/24/2026 9:52:32 AM by greencat
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Alan Swank
1/24/2026 10:46 AM
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[QUOTE=FearLeon] Yes.


College basketball is a "game", not a life-or-death situation.
While college hoops is not open heart surgery, when you have a 13,000 seat arena and the highest paid coach, it's acceptable to want better than whatever adjective you want to describe that first half last night.

I bet Indiana and Vanderbilt are happy they didn't settle for "oh well, let's just keep getting our ass kicked in football since we have a good school and educate the kids" when the option to also win is available.
It ceased being just a game when TV money became the driving force. It's now a business plain and simply with kids barely out of high school being moved like pawns on a chess board.
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Buckeye to Bobcat
1/24/2026 1:19 PM
Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
This is becoming a lazy argument with each season. Simmons’ agent is my classmate and he got a 6 figure deal to come here. He left a conference rival with a practice facility for Athens. You know, the same school we just lost to Tuesday (again) despite poaching its best player from a season ago.

We’re not flush with cash, but we’re certainly not crying poor either. Our entire portal class this past cycle consisted of 3 starters from better teams a season ago. Which of the top MAC schools could have said this in May? Breath came from a better conference as a 2 year starter and has gotten worse. Pending how you viewed the SBC, Connors has also gotten worse since coming here. This isn’t an NIL problem, it’s a coaching and roster construction problem.

On the flip side, Kent and Akron continue to remain at the top of the MAC with 4 year players like Gillespie, Lyles, and Johnson taking massive leaps this season. They’re all looking like 1st Team All MAC players. That isn’t NIL, that’s coaching and player development.

Boals hasn’t had a 4 year player of his own take that kind of stride during his entire tenure here. AJC went from preseason MAC POY to finishing on the 3rd team last year. Thats as close as it’s gotten. Sears was the last 1st Team player we had. But sure, a lack of money has caused this.

You don’t think in this era part of the vetting process includes how a coach will raise NIL? Regardless, give me someone who recruits all verticals, can develop, and actually runs a system to give us an identity. Something we haven’t had the last 4 seasons.

This program won’t be worse off without Boals because it isn’t very good with him and becoming more painfully obvious 20/21 was lightning in a bottle.
Agree completely. Since 2020, we've had more players on All MAC teams than anybody but Toledo. The idea that everybody better than us is buying talent we can't get just isn't well-supported.

We all watch it game-to-game. Players don't develop, rotations are baffling, and he's unable to consistently put the right role players around our best players.

The results are pretty hard to debate at this point.
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
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OhioCatFan
1/24/2026 2:37 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
While having a practice facility would be nice, I really don't believe that that is the root of our problem.
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greencat
1/24/2026 3:12 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
While having a practice facility would be nice, I really don't believe that that is the root of our problem.
Getting a nice new practice gym is important. HOWEVER...

Did we have one when..

Beating Michigan in the regional in Nashville or eliminating national champs UVa?

We need players tough and skilled enough to compete on a high level of D-1 hoops.

It didn't look like that so much last night. While mid-majors like fiami, George Mason, UNC-Wilmington, St. Louis, Utah State....all candidates for 30 win seasons.
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FearLeon
1/24/2026 3:22 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
While having a practice facility would be nice, I really don't believe that that is the root of our problem.
Getting a nice new practice gym is important. HOWEVER...

Did we have one when..

Beating Michigan in the regional in Nashville or eliminating national champs UVa?

We need players tough and skilled enough to compete on a high level of D-1 hoops.

It didn't look like that so much last night. While mid-majors like fiami, George Mason, UNC-Wilmington, St. Louis, Utah State....all candidates for 30 win seasons.
+1

Would a separate practice facility be nice…yes.

Does it mean instant success…no.

Bottom line…this staff has failed miserably in recruiting. Too many guys on full scholarship the last seven years who have no business playing division-one basketball.

That is the failure. And if you don’t think this is an accurate statement, go watch the Akron game from last night again. The gap between Akron and Ohio when it comes to just pure talent, athletic ability and basketball IQ is the size of the Grand Canyon.

Unless Boals walks away on his own, he is going to get a lame duck season next year. And if this is the case, the AD needs to tell him some significant staffing change needs to take place. The whole thing is stale. What have the assistant coaches done to improve recruiting and developing talent? Last night was not a good look in terms of answering that question.
Last Edited: 1/24/2026 3:43:33 PM by FearLeon
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Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
1/24/2026 3:37 PM
Who in the MAC has a dedicated practice facility at this point?

Given that during the off-season teams are only allowed to have basketball activities 8 hours per week, and during the season it's only 20 hours per week, is a whole building necessary?
Last Edited: 1/24/2026 3:41:05 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
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greencat
1/24/2026 3:48 PM
FearLeon wrote:expand_more
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
While having a practice facility would be nice, I really don't believe that that is the root of our problem.
Getting a nice new practice gym is important. HOWEVER...

Did we have one when..

Beating Michigan in the regional in Nashville or eliminating national champs UVa?

We need players tough and skilled enough to compete on a high level of D-1 hoops.

It didn't look like that so much last night. While mid-majors like fiami, George Mason, UNC-Wilmington, St. Louis, Utah State....all candidates for 30 win seasons.
+1

Would a separate practice facility be nice…yes.

Does it mean instant success…no.

Bottom line…this staff has failed miserably in recruiting. Too many guys on full scholarship the last seven years who have no business playing division-one basketball.

That is the failure. And if you don’t think this is an accurate statement, go watch the Akron game from last night again. The gap between Akron and Ohio when it comes to just pure talent, athletic ability and basketball IQ is the size of the Grand Canyon.

Unless Boals walks away on his own, he is going to get a lame duck season next year. And if this is the case, the AD needs to tell him some significant staffing change needs to take place. The whole thing is stale. What are the assistant coaches doing in recruiting and developing talent?
Three unrated recruits from the same high school is not going to change anything unless some of us are still using the delusional "Nate Springs = Kevin Durant" rating scale.

Problems not currently being fixed all unrelated to the practice gym issue:
Hadaway's attitude thing.
Guards shooting around 30% from the field, not from three... from the field at all.
Simmons shooting 15% from three. Why is he attempting any at all?
Breath shooting 41% at the FT line.
Burris with a higher average of turnovers than assists.
A "prized recruit" has played a total of 23 minutes.
Why are Evans and Kuany not better by now?
plus anything and everything Sheldon related.
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FJC31
1/24/2026 4:03 PM
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:expand_more
Welcome to the current state of college/semi-pro/AAU/always free agent/mercenary/pay for play athletics.

Athens, Ohio and Ohio University do not and will not have enough $$$ to compete. Sadly (and it may vary by sport and by season - and ultimately it may take years 10-12 to fully flesh itself out) - we don't even have enough $$$ to be in the top half of the MAC. Between urban populations, median household incomes and local business revenues - we're a bottom 1/3 of D1 program. This is our reality given the new normal.

You can argue this team is bad. It is.
You can argue Boals hasn't done a great job this year. I'd agree.
But Boals HAS done a good to above-average job in his tenure here....and I guarantee that if you fire him, unless money bags McGee shows up with the new HC, the results will only get worse not better.
This is becoming a lazy argument with each season. Simmons’ agent is my classmate and he got a 6 figure deal to come here. He left a conference rival with a practice facility for Athens. You know, the same school we just lost to Tuesday (again) despite poaching its best player from a season ago.

We’re not flush with cash, but we’re certainly not crying poor either. Our entire portal class this past cycle consisted of 3 starters from better teams a season ago. Which of the top MAC schools could have said this in May? Breath came from a better conference as a 2 year starter and has gotten worse. Pending how you viewed the SBC, Connors has also gotten worse since coming here. This isn’t an NIL problem, it’s a coaching and roster construction problem.

On the flip side, Kent and Akron continue to remain at the top of the MAC with 4 year players like Gillespie, Lyles, and Johnson taking massive leaps this season. They’re all looking like 1st Team All MAC players. That isn’t NIL, that’s coaching and player development.

Boals hasn’t had a 4 year player of his own take that kind of stride during his entire tenure here. AJC went from preseason MAC POY to finishing on the 3rd team last year. Thats as close as it’s gotten. Sears was the last 1st Team player we had. But sure, a lack of money has caused this.

You don’t think in this era part of the vetting process includes how a coach will raise NIL? Regardless, give me someone who recruits all verticals, can develop, and actually runs a system to give us an identity. Something we haven’t had the last 4 seasons.

This program won’t be worse off without Boals because it isn’t very good with him and becoming more painfully obvious 20/21 was lightning in a bottle.
Agree completely. Since 2020, we've had more players on All MAC teams than anybody but Toledo. The idea that everybody better than us is buying talent we can't get just isn't well-supported.

We all watch it game-to-game. Players don't develop, rotations are baffling, and he's unable to consistently put the right role players around our best players.

The results are pretty hard to debate at this point.
Once again, I beg the question if we are giving the proper resources to the basketball program. Until we have a practice facility where our players can practice at any time and not be interfered with by any other team in the athletic department we are going to continue setting up our team to fail in the development of our players.
The practice facility is also a lazy argument. As I stated above, Simmons left a program with a practice facility for one without. The only thing stalling this program is lack of identity and brand of basketball, leading to poor recruiting, followed by poor development, and coaching malpractice.
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Alan Swank
1/24/2026 6:16 PM
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.
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greencat
1/24/2026 9:41 PM
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It didn't look like that so much last night. While mid-majors like fiami, George Mason, UNC-Wilmington, St. Louis, Utah State....all candidates for 30 win seasons.
Speaking of St Louis, I notice they beat Bethune-Cookman 112-53

Not a typo. 112-53

Remember Bethune-Cookman? We played them. At home.
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OhioCatFan
1/24/2026 11:07 PM
greencat wrote:expand_more
It didn't look like that so much last night. While mid-majors like fiami, George Mason, UNC-Wilmington, St. Louis, Utah State....all candidates for 30 win seasons.
Speaking of St Louis, I notice they beat Bethune-Cookman 112-53

Not a typo. 112-53

Remember Bethune-Cookman? We played them. At home.
The prosecution rests its case!

[Might get a pass if they'd played better since. And, who was it that thumped St. Bonny a day or two ago?]
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greencat
1/24/2026 11:27 PM
Actually St. Bonaventure played St. Louis yesterday and lost 97-62.

St. Bonaventure is now 1-6 in their conference.
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OhioCatFan
1/24/2026 11:48 PM
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Actually St. Bonaventure played St. Louis yesterday and lost 97-62.

St. Bonaventure is now 1-6 in their conference.
That's what I was subtly (too much so, maybe) referring to. What looked like one of our best wins, now looks like the equivalent to a victory over Ball State. Oh wait, we didn't actually beat that juggernaut.
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SBH
1/25/2026 10:06 AM
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During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.
Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.
Last Edited: 1/25/2026 10:17:22 AM by SBH
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99Bobcat
1/25/2026 9:13 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.
Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.
Grover is right there with 2 courts inside. Obviously, not a wooded floor and not regulation size. Outdoor pursuits and the PE program use that space, but for a relatively small amount of money(compared to a new facility), it could be made over to be a decent practice area.
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Alan Swank
1/25/2026 10:04 PM
SBH wrote:expand_more
During the season, besides the two basketball teams, who practices in the Convo? Ping has five courts so one of those could be easily used if needed.
Not so. The rec center courts are not official NCAA size nor do they have enough free space between the baselines, sidelines and walls. The university's medical insurance for players requires full size courts with specified margins around the borders. To use the rec center in the past (summer), Boals has had to tape off boundaries of three courts sideways (and pay a heft rental fee). Plus, because the rec center is "owned" by the students, their needs get first preference when school is in session.
It's no more "owned' by the students than the Convo is. That was an urban myth perpetuated for years. Student fees go to pay for Ping and athletics. As for the insurance angle, I'd love to see that policy. Regardless, we've had great success without a practice facility and spending that type of money is no more a guarantee for success than paying big money for a coach.

And as for paying rent, all the president would have to say is "we're not doing that any longer."
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