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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:43 AM
Not  a fan, especially of the slant O, that looks like it's the first O in our arch OHIO.  Other issue is that is not a registered mark of OHIO University Athletics, so when we want to talk about brands and such, we go out and do this.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 3:43 PM
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Not  a fan, especially of the slant O, that looks like it's the first O in our arch OHIO.  Other issue is that is not a registered mark of OHIO University Athletics, so when we want to talk about brands and such, we go out and do this.


Agreed. The slanted "O" has to go. We need the classic "O" as a standard hat, and the attack car can be used on the alternate cap. I'm fine with the other two.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 5:39 PM
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Not  a fan, especially of the slant O, that looks like it's the first O in our arch OHIO.  Other issue is that is not a registered mark of OHIO University Athletics, so when we want to talk about brands and such, we go out and do this.


Agreed. The slanted "O" has to go. We need the classic "O" as a standard hat, and the attack car can be used on the alternate cap. I'm fine with the other two.

Funny how people can have different opinions.  Of the three, I like the "O" best.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 7:36 PM
Dont like them. The attack cat hats look like something you can buy at the college book store, not game hats. The slanted O is the best of the 3.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:06 PM
BillyTheCat wrote:expand_more
Not  a fan, especially of the slant O, that looks like it's the first O in our arch OHIO.  Other issue is that is not a registered mark of OHIO University Athletics, so when we want to talk about brands and such, we go out and do this.


Was the squared off O that they used before this year a registered mark?

Either way, I always hated that stupid O that only baseball used, so I'm glad they're aligning with the rest of the teams by and large.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 9:57 PM
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Dont like them. The attack cat hats look like something you can buy at the college book store, not game hats. The slanted O is the best of the 3.
Bingo!
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:00 PM
Two of those hats are directly against the departments own guidelines for marks and logos. It bothers me we seem to be going backwards on our branding.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/ohio...
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Posted: 12/6/2012 10:19 PM

I really like all three of these hats. At first glance the slanted O really took me back. But it really makes good sense when you consider our use of the arch OHIO. As I think about it, I actually like the slanted O a lot better than the skinny O as it has a purpose, instead of just trying to be different than Ohio State (I believe we too used to have that block O, not sure what the story on that is though). 

Can't wait to go out and get me that green one with just the Attack Cat if they make it available.

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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:21 PM
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I really like all three of these hats. At first glance the slanted O really took me back. But it really makes good sense when you consider our use of the arch OHIO. As I think about it, I actually like the slanted O a lot better than the skinny O as it has a purpose, instead of just trying to be different than Ohio State (I believe we too used to have that block O, not sure what the story on that is though). 

Can't wait to go out and get me that green one with just the Attack Cat if they make it available.


I put my BINGO here.
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Posted: 12/6/2012 11:54 PM
Looks like they just went shopping at Lids at a mall
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Posted: 12/7/2012 12:41 AM
Besides being a personal preference about the slanted or block "O," the biggest issue here is the hat is two-toned (predominantly black at that). Most baseball clubs have their standard hat a something involving lettering. They are never too busy. The logo hats should be away and alternative options. Therefore, our most basic hat isn't even really the school's colors.

If the first hat is now considered the "main" hat, well, the Astros are the only MLB team I can think of that uses their logo for their main hat these days. Baseball has always been about keeping the main go-to hat basic with one or two letters. So either we are shying away from that, which I don't like, or we are going with a black hat and a green bill as the main hat, which I also don't care for.

I can live with the slanted "O" if it was otherwise a basic, standard hat in green. I'm still a firm believe in the block-O though, regardless of how much people might think it is too similar to Ohio State. We are, after all, OHIO.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 9:11 AM
You can please some of the people all the time.  All of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people all the time.  Seems like some people just got to find something to find fault with.  Not happy otherwise.  Me, I can't wait to get one.
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Posted: 12/7/2012 12:09 PM
Some just like a little tradition, and is it just me or may we just change our school colors to black?
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Posted: 12/7/2012 1:33 PM
I'm not really that excited about these hats.  

First, I don't really like the black at all.  Our school colors are Green & White.  On special occasions our teams wear black, but not every game.

Second, I don't mind the attack cat or really the slated O that much, but the attack cat with the Ohio is a little much.  Typically baseball hats are pretty basic.  Usually (at least in the MLB), teams use a letter or two (or 3 in the case with St Louis), and rarely are logos/mascots used on the hats.

Would have liked to have seen a white hat with a green O and green bill, and just switch the white to grey or green (like the old hats) for road games, and put a small attack cat on the rear of the hat.

I also love the old paw print, but I guess we can't use that anymore or have gotten away from it.

Also, I know with licensing and contracts it is probably impossible to do, but if I had the option I would switch back to the New Era hats rather than the Game hats.
Last Edited: 12/7/2012 1:33:45 PM by Its all Boeh's Fault
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Posted: 12/8/2012 1:35 AM
I would like to see what the arch OHIO in its entirety looks like. I understand Donuts' point, but it might work.
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Posted: 12/13/2012 11:45 AM
The slanted O is not for me.  How did that get approved by our "branding" police?    I too would like to see what the 'arch" Ohio would look like.  Anything but the slanted O !  I thought my sight was going bad when I first looked at it.  Thought maybe the seamstress was drunk when she sewed it on!
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Posted: 12/17/2012 12:04 AM
Look I'm more conservative than the next guy, a no re-play, if there needs to be an asterisk there doesn't need to be a discussion kind of guy. But has anyone considered the possibility that MLB teams don't put the full name on the hat because their city isn't four letters?
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Posted: 12/19/2012 3:02 PM
Well,  I think the slanted "O" makes us look  .......F A S T !
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Posted: 12/19/2012 5:24 PM
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Well,  I think the slanted "O" makes us look  .......F A S T !

There you go.
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Posted: 12/19/2012 10:38 PM
Each hat is worse than the other IMO. This staff is throwing any semblance of tradition in the garbage, and that's a real shame.

If their goal is to alienate alumni, they're doing a great job. And, no, I'm not just talking about the hats. A lot of bridges have been burned in a few very short months.

Just want until the season starts. If you think there's angst about Jim Christian, you ain't seen nothing yet. With completely unproven pitching, we could be in for one loooooong season. Andrew See will start looking pretty good come March 1!
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Posted: 12/19/2012 11:00 PM
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Each hat is worse than the other IMO. This staff is throwing any semblance of tradition in the garbage, and that's a real shame.

If their goal is to alienate alumni, they're doing a great job. And, no, I'm not just talking about the hats. A lot of bridges have been burned in a few very short months.

Just want until the season starts. If you think there's angst about Jim Christian, you ain't seen nothing yet. With completely unproven pitching, we could be in for one loooooong season. Andrew See will start looking pretty good come March 1!


He had a long line of pitching recruits coming in with experience to contribute right away?
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:25 AM
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[QUOTE=catfan28]
Just want until the season starts. If you think there's angst about Jim Christian, you ain't seen nothing yet. With completely unproven pitching, we could be in for one loooooong season.


If that ends up being the case, it will be because of the recruiting of the previous staff.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 7:27 AM
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Each hat is worse than the other IMO. This staff is throwing any semblance of tradition in the garbage, and that's a real shame.

If their goal is to alienate alumni, they're doing a great job. And, no, I'm not just talking about the hats. A lot of bridges have been burned in a few very short months.


Good grief man, give it a rest.
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Posted: 12/20/2012 9:05 AM
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6-4-3 wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=catfan28]
Just want until the season starts. If you think there's angst about Jim Christian, you ain't seen nothing yet. With completely unproven pitching, we could be in for one loooooong season.


If that ends up being the case, it will be because of the recruiting of the previous staff.


C'mon, Coach...That's the most bush thing I've read on here. 
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Posted: 12/26/2012 3:45 PM
Really?  Do you not think that recruiting plays a part in how good or bad a team is?
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Posted: 12/26/2012 5:57 PM
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Really?  Do you not think that recruiting plays a part in how good or bad a team is?


Coach,
I'll assume that's rhetorical.  However, I still find the remark about previous recruiting classes...well...classless (and still pretty bush as well) .  Happy Holidays
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Posted: 12/26/2012 6:45 PM
You mean - "You're" welcome...
"your" is possessive, not a contraction for "you are"

^^^^^
Most "Bush" thing I've seen on here!!
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Posted: 12/26/2012 7:02 PM
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Really?  Do you not think that recruiting plays a part in how good or bad a team is?


Coach,
I'll assume that's rhetorical.  However, I still find the remark about previous recruiting classes...well...classless (and still pretty bush as well) .  Happy Holidays

I was not making a remark about previous recruiting classes.  Go back and reread.  I was responding to a comment that catfan28 made.  He said that it was going to be worse here than the basketball board because our pitching was weak and had no experience.  It was going to be a looooog season.  I said if that happened, again IF, IF, I don't necessarily believe that it will, but If it did, then that would be just as much a reflection on the previous staff as the current staff.  And it would.

Now I get it.  There is a group of people on this board that are not happy with the hire.  I understand.  That is always the case when there is change.  I just don't get their desire that the baseball program crash and burn because of it.  I don't necessarily believe this will be a real great year (but OK), but I do believe that year 2 will be much better and year 3 will be real good.

By the way.  Talk about classless.  It is classless and condescending when responding to me as coach.
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Posted: 12/27/2012 2:01 AM
Catdude wrote:expand_more
You mean - "You're" welcome...
"your" is possessive, not a contraction for "you are"

^^^^^
Most "Bush" thing I've seen on here!!


So it's OK to get it wrong but not OK to correct it?
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Posted: 12/27/2012 9:03 AM
6-4-3 wrote:expand_more
[QUOTE=catfan28]
Just want until the season starts. If you think there's angst about Jim Christian, you ain't seen nothing yet. With completely unproven pitching, we could be in for one loooooong season.


If that ends up being the case, it will be because of the recruiting of the previous staff.


Sorry if my salutation sounds condescending or classless - that is entirely not the intent.  Once again - the screenname thing really rubs me the wrong way.  Not just you, but everyone.  That's why these are toxic most of the time.  But it's easier to take shots that way.  But anyway, I'd refer to you as 6-4-3 (or 4-6-3, what about 5-4-3?  Or, maybe 3-6-1?  That's the one that doesn't get the proper recognition...) in the future but regrettably I'm self-imposing a ban on my posts indefinitely beginning immediately.  And, not to mention, I think it's silly to address someone as a type of double play.

I took your advice and reread your comment.  I even quoted it above, and, I think you said "to move on" somewhere.  I'd find it but I'm on a deadline here.  

Just for the record, I'd never want ANYTHING at Ohio University to "crash and burn."  I spent way too much time in that program and on campus to categorically dismiss any loyalty to it.  That goes for my entire family as well - which began in Athens.  To assume that some scrutiny directed towards a hire in some way would diminish my passion for OU baseball is ridiculously pretentious.  I undertstand that change occurs all the time ("Without contrary there is no progression" - William Blake).  It's healthy.  

I mean this...seriously - congrats on the job.  Now do it.  There are hundreds of former players and coaches counting on you.  

With all due respect, stop worrying about what you cannot control.  It's not advisable to troll message boards either.  In addition, to start threads and then become passive agressive when posters don't do cartwheels, say, when new hats are unveiled.  When you worry too much about what fans think you end up sitting with them in their seats. 

Again, sorry if you misconstrued my sarcasm in posts. It won't happen again.  Happy Holidays and Go Bobcats.


Last Edited: 12/27/2012 9:03:50 AM by sorge
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