Del:
Nope,my back is just fine.

I also agree with gedunkman.

The President changed how he felt about abortion.

I don't have a problem with that.

Why ?

I did too.

I was in college when the Supreme Court passed Roe v Wade.

At that time we all thought it was great.

If you got a girl pregnant,there was a legal "out".

Nobody really thought about the fact that you were taking a life.
Only that it provided a way to get out of a mistake.

When we were first married my wife got pregnant.
It wasn't planned, and I wasn't ready for it.
She started bleeding and it didn't look good.
Then she miscarried and needed to have a "D and C".
At first there was relief.
Then I thought about being able to hear the baby's heart beat,then nothing.

That really brought home the fact that a "fetus" is a living human being.

That was my "evolution" to pro life.

+1

And funny, many still want to talk about Hillary's "crimes", Bill's infidelity and at the same time ignore those issues in the current administration. Let's look at just the concept of fiscal austerity, where are all the cries about the growing deficit and debt? Now that the GOP is in control of all 3 branches, the amount of borrowing is skyrocketing, the debt is soaring in a time of a good economy and you couldn't find a Tea Party member or a fiscal conservative.

Don't worry about it, evangelicals turned on the Pope this week because he said something that was pro-gun control. Michael Flynn, Jr -- a guy who thinks there was a pedophile ring being run out of a pizza restaurant in DC -- tweeted that the Pope is an idiot and the right lapped it up.

https://twitter.com/mflynnJR/status/990668671755411459

Oh, cool. Nevermind, Rudy Guiliani is going to issue a new statement explaining how he got confused and that Trump didn't know about the Daniels payments and the conversations which he recounted, and the Trump's reaction, which he quoted word for word -- didn't actually happen.

Just innocent people acting innocently.

The FBI is full of stormtroopers, the deep state's taking the President down, and all of these repeated lies are nothing compared to the fact that Mueller's team has some Democrats on it.

It'd be awesome if some folks on the right could start showing even the slightest bit of respect for our country instead of just tearing up about how much they love the flag when football players kneel quietly in front of it.

Boom. No abortion has ever been as offensive as a bunch of rich white men making reproductive decisions for women they have never met.

1.Their body,their business,their choice.
That would be fine,except,their choice also affects the life of the child they're carrying.

2.No abortion has ever been as offensive . . .
Tell that to the unborn child.
Have you ever seen how an abortion is done.

3.I'm pro life.
Call it a fetus,unborn child,whatever you want,abortion is taking a life.
The Supreme Court ruled that a woman has the right to take that life and that the unborn child has no rights.
That's the law.
But for those of us who believe in an after life,we have to answer to a higher authority then the Supreme Court.

4.I struggled for as long time on the issue of accepting an abortion in the case of rape and incest.
I still do.

5.As far as carrying a child to term,then shooting it.That's not much different then some of the late term abortion procedures.

RP, I guess I was wrong. I thought this might be the thing that got you to change your mind about Trump. It's not that he "evolved" on the issue of abortion (which is something I have done by the way, albeit in the opposite direction. I used to be very anti-choice having bought the arguments coming out of the Catholic church). It's that he literally paid a woman to have an abortion. Of course, people speculated before the election that he may have done such a thing but now we have proof that his lawyer made a payment and it is very likely that it was on the behalf of Trump. Do you really think he evolved? Do you really think he actually cares about abortion one way or the other? All context points to no, and I'm shocked you'd buy into it.

There's also a lot of misinformation out there about abortions.

Around the world, in countries where abortion is illegal, it remains a leading cause of maternal death. An estimated 68,000 women worldwide die each year from unsafe abortions.

About 88% of the women who obtain abortions are less than 13 weeks pregnant. Only 1.4 percent of abortions happen at or after the 21st week of pregnancy. The number of abortions have dropped over time and they have dropped fastest in states that have the LEAST restrictions on them. If you really want to see a drop in abortions it turns out that the best thing you can do is encourage access to contraception and to vote for Democrats:


https://qz.com/857273/the-sharpest-drops-in-abortion-rate... /

Amen Brother!!! How anyone stands up and says we should not teach sex education and provide simple and affordable access (and understanding) to contraception, yet rails against abortion is beyond me.

Agree DFC - perhaps we need a place that helps women (and men) achieve parenthood in a means that provides affordable and healthy care.

The fact that we even need to discuss this is sad, just say no and no education is a failure, it was in the 50’s it is today. And just because a public figure claims they are pro-life in front of the press and TV does not mean they are (1.2 million dollars shows us that), as well as countless stories of secret abortions by the mistresses of some of these clowns.

This IS Siberia!

(Brrrr)

No he was lying during the campaign. Typical politician. Says what is necessary to get elected. Anyone who thinks any of these folks is for the common person is an idiot. All they care about is getting elected/re-elected and their own self advancement (trump, Obama, Cruz, rubio pick any). I was in a meeting with a congressman a while back. He pointed to his lapel pin (every representative gets a pin). Said it was the most expensive piece of jewelry I would ever see. Cost HIM $1 million. Guy is scum. Will be running fior Burr’s seat when his term is up. That’s all he cares about.

I think it’s fair to say that both sides have lost any credibility after this past election. Both are full of it. If everyone could just get off their team and come to the middle then we could solve most of the countries problems. Unfortunately everyone knows that’s not going to happen. Both sides are so stuck in their beliefs that they refuse to even consider the other side. This has just been escalating year after year. I’m sick of it. America is sick of it. Nothing will change until we get a third party to rise from this mess.

It’s fair to say because if you’ve done any research you’d see all of the corrupt things both sides have done. Based on your post you’re on the lefts team. You are only seeing the corrupt things the right wingers have done and have no interest in looking into anything corrupt the left has done. It’s a joke. Do research! It’s easy. Go on google or if you don’t like reading listen to some podcast. I’m not saying the right hasn’t don’t bad things. They have, they’re full of it, but hey guess what?! So have the left. Why can’t we realize that when Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are our choices to pick between presidents, that the supply chain of our democracy is broken. We need a 3rd party. If you still disagree with me and don’t want to do the research yourself then just say so and I will come up with a whole list of reasons the left and right are corrupt.