For the record, here’s the Lincoln quote that is sometimes paraphrased the way rpbobcat did. The paraphrase does capture the essence of the quote if you understand 19th Century speech patterns and the context of Lincoln’s statement before the Young Men’s Lyceum in Springfield, Ill.,1838, but it is certainly not a literal quote. It’s a very rough paraphrase of the following:

“When I so pressingly urge a strict observance of all the laws, let me not be understood as saying there are no bad laws.... but I do mean to say, that, although bad laws, if they exist, should be repealed as soon as possible, still while they continue in force, for the sake of example, they should be religiously observed.”

Yea, that's close enough. I thought he was referring to this quote from Grant that is often misattributed to Lincoln:

I shall on all subjects have a policy to recommend, but none to enforce against the will of the people. Laws are to govern all alike—those opposed as well as those who favor them. I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution.

Last night, at the rally in Duluth, Donald Trump said:

"Can you believe Obama put these children in cages? Unbelievable folks. Unbelievable. But we fixed that!"

I hope everybody who voted for him understands just how little respect he has for you. He lies to your faces in the most blatant ways possible and has literally no respect for your intelligence or ability to discern true from false.

Nice op-ed piece on patriotism.

http://www.dispatch.com/opinion/20180622/jack-daurora-wha...

They may have gone to school but I'd hardly consider them educated in the true sense of the word.

Literally three weeks removed from this administration, voiced by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, cheering the Supreme Court's decision to allow a private bakery owner to turn away gay customers because of personal beliefs, Sarah Huckabee Sanders has criticized a restaurant in Lexington, VA for refusing to serve her based on their personal beliefs.

And Trump supporters are rallying around her and whining about how unfair it is.

To be clear, my belief is that in the United States you should expect service and equal treatment wherever you go. It was the Right that fought to allow businesses to discriminate against customers and sadly, they won. Sarah Huckabee Sanders herself cheered the decision.

This is Republicans reaping what the've sown. They've fought for this version of America. It's not surprising to anybody that they don't like it. It's a shitty, divisive vision for our country and Republican appointed Supreme Court justices made it our reality. Congratulations on the America your policies have just created.

Incidentally, my folks live in Lexington. I've eaten at the Red Hen and it's quite good. It'd be a perfect stop on the way to Charlottesville from Athens for the UVA game. Right off of 64.

Yep, Friday night at the Red Hen with a stay in Lexington, a stop and King Family Winery on the way into Charlottesville Saturday morning, a stop at the Bobcat Bash before the game, and dinner down on the mall Saturday night. Sounds like a great Bobcat weekend in VA in September. Who knows, maybe Bob Glidden might be available for dinner Friday night.

https://youtu.be/FR7h1TzL47E

Interesting take on our current political situation.

I’d like to add too, that just because I might disagree with people on any number of ideas. Whether it be political debates in this tread or disagreeing with Monroe on Solich. At the end of the they’re just ideas, if I sat next to Monroe at a football game I would love him because we’re both cheering for the bobcats. We just have different ideas on what’s best for the bobcats. Same goes for politics, at the end of the day we’re all Americans and we’re on the same team. We all need to come together and unite as citizens and help eachother out regardless of the side we’re on.

How can this house be suitable for use? Thought the dewelling was going to be too expensive to fix? But it's not too expensive to remodel for a repourpose?

You know, I do not care a bit about the desire to change Presidential living arrangements, just be honest and upfront about it, and be ethical in the deal. Both of which the University failed at miserably.

O.U.'s explanation about it being too expensive to fix never made sense, especially since they never provided much in the way of specifics.

The only "issue" I remember was the bat infestation and the damage they caused.

One of the things I do is inspect homes/buildings prior to purchase, primarily for builders who buy single/multi family houses to "flip".

I've inspected some pretty disgusting places.

Many multi family tenements, especially in places like Paterson and Jersey City, were unoccupied and infested with roaches and rats.

But that wasn't a big concern to the purchasers.
One potential buyer told me "that's why they have exterminators".

They were primarily concerned with the condition of the foundation, especially in a wet area, and whether the building was structurally sound.

That wasn't an issue at O.U.

In most cases, the buyer has to gut, rewire and put in all new plumbing and HVAC.

Biggest issue to them is time.
They need to have a one/two family house redone within 30 days of closing, or they have to start making loan payments and losing profit.

When the "bat " issue came up I said to my wife that O.U. is just looking for an excuse to not have a presidential residence on campus.