Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame
10/11/2017 3:58 PM
The public has every right to exert that pressure. The President -- our head of state -- shouldn't. You'd think small government proponents would agree.
Also: I never expected you to be aghast. I've seen enough of you in these threads to understand that policy has nothing to do with your political support. You're the fish. Trump's the guy with the gun standing next to the barrel.
Funny,I seem to recall former president Obama trying to exert pressure in favor of social issues he felt important.
This is the problem. Conservatives in this country have rewritten (very recent!) history in their minds. In no way, shape, or form did Obama ever behave like this. I can disagree wholeheartedly with the Bush administration and not have to make up stuff about George W. Bush the man. Why do we insist on making things up about Obama and pretending they're gospel? Remember when liberals were up in arms about Chick-fil-a and calling for boycotts? You know what the official line from Obama was? No you don't, because when asked about it he declined to comment. Because he was the President of the United States.
The Ckick-fil-a example is a particularly interesting one, because Conservatives were on the exact opposite side that they now are re: the NFL. If you recall, the Mayor of Boston made a statement basically saying that Chick-fil-a wasn't welcome in Boston.
And the right, and organizations like the ACLU, rightfully criticized the Mayor's overreach. But when Trump threatens the NFL's tax status? Whole different story.
I can you give you several examples,including Obama's blasting the actions of police officers.
But, they'll be reasons why that was different,or I misunderstood,or took something out of context.
Same thing,Eminmen comes out with a profanity laced tirade against President Trump and he gets praised by people in the entertainment industry and people like Kapernick and Lebron.
What would have happened had a singer gone on a similar rant against Obama ?
Yeah, you mentioned Obama and police officers once already in this thread and were asked to provide evidence. So, knock yourself out. Show me when Obama "blasted police officers."
Also, if a singer went on a crazy rant about Obama, he'd be invited to the White House by a sitting President:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/20/us/politics/sarah-pali... .
But this interaction actually brings us to the crux of my point about you: you're not interested in an honest analysis of policy or Obama's actions and words relative to Trump's. You've been asked to provide examples, avoided doing so, and defended that avoidance by falling back on this notion that even if you had done so, somebody would respond with "reasons why that was different,or I misunderstood,or took something out of context."
In other words, you're explaining that you don't have to support your views, or have a conversation about them, because if you do, your views might be challenged.
Trump, despite all of his numerous flaws (which begins with his being completely unfit for the job) is an incredibly effective demagogue and incredibly good at weaponizing emotion and cultural issues to rile up his base and let them feel, constantly, like victims. Or to even feel victimized on others behalf, like in this instance. It's silly. Incredibly so. Just a bunch of snowflakes vainly hugging their own hurt feelings, too naive to understand that they were conned by the President into playing the role of PC police. And why? As a distraction from his complete and utter inability to govern. It's not a coincidence that this ramped up when he tripped over his own feet on healthcare again. And it's not a coincidence that he's attacking the press, and the very idea of the first amendment, now that the Russia stuff's looking particularly damning.
Which brings me back to the fish/barrel comment. He knows his base won't hold him accountable on actual governance so long as he keeps these culture wars going. And so here we are.