My bet is they don't. Also, the local headlines and story on OUPD concluding the investigation was pretty much garbage and could have defended those who have had their reputations damaged.

My cousin was planning oncoming, but this basically shut down his recruiting. He ended up at Campbellsville.

Maybe this is the same MO that they use to rationalize tearing down perfectly good buildings that could be renovated. They do no maintenance on the building for years and then say it's in horrible shape and the cheapest alternative is just to tear it down. Neglect the wrestling program, make no effort to help it out of its problems, then declare it is beyond salvaging and then shut it down. Is that what's happening? Maybe there is a pattern here?

They're not going to eliminate wrestling. They learned a painful lesson after killing men's track - they have worked very, very hard to re-establish relationships (and giving) with former team members. They're not going to make the same mistake with wrestling. I'm sure there's much more to the story than we all know.

Were the accusations discredited? Above somebody said an assistant coach left the program -- were the accusations against that coach discredited?

I don't think the OUPD statement tells us one way or another, honestly.

What we know from it is that the OUPD interviewed witnesses, gathered medical records, and still felt there was enough there to share their findings with a doctor. His conclusion was "excessive but not egregious" and the OUPD's determination was there wasn't enough evidence to pursue criminal charges.

"Excessive but not egregious" is not an exoneration, and is not a conclusion that strikes me as "no there, there." The conclusion seems to be that the coaching staff was excessive, and people were injured. But that excess didn't rise to criminality.

If you couple that with the rumors you posted above, it sounds an awful lot like a coach physically disciplined a wrestler for getting in a fight uptown, and that the wrestler was injured in the process. "Excessive but not egregious" seems to actually verify that it happened.

Do you think that should be allowed?

I'm not following. Why is the fact that the kid who made the report left the program relevant?

I'm just wondering if it was the Assistant Coach whose behavior was excessive, and that he was asked to leave the program.

Edit: I'll also just add -- I went to the wrestling message board you mentioned and saw that the OU Wrestling team's really frustrated on Twitter. Totally get that. But one thing that I don't understand: this all happened in practice, right? Presumably the wrestling team was all there. It seems super strange to me that none of them have said outright "nothing happened." That seems like a pretty weird gap here. They have every right to be frustrated about the length of this, and not having coaches in place -- but it definitely seems strange to me that nobody on the team is saying "I was there, here's what happened, and it wasn't a big deal."

I don't know what happened. But also don't think I have enough info to conclude anything about the character of the kid involved, whether "excessive but not egregious" is acceptable behavior in a coach ("excessive implies that it was more than what's needed, at the very least), and I think anybody reading the OUPD statement who is willing to blame the kid and say "there's no there there" is showing their bias. Worth noting that you also posited that this was a conspiracy to shut down the wrestling program.
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What seems more logical here? That the University is trying to use an incident with no "there there" as cloud cover to shut down the program, opening themselves up to lawsuits from the impacted coaching staff, or that maybe a medical examiner stating that the coaching staff was "excessive but not egregious" has the University admin concerned?

The University has already shown themselves to be quite conservative in these matters with the 110 and Greek investigations. Isn't this just that same conservativism? That OUPD statement opens the University up to civil charges from the kid, unquestionably.

It may end up there was nothing to this. But right now, based on what's out there, I'm not sure how people are drawing that conclusion. Especially given that one assistant coach left the program.

Though neither of you know for sure what happened, I would tend to go with the interpretation of a poster who actually was a wrestler at the college level and has some idea from past experience how to interpret some of the statements made, particularly the one by the physician. Not saying he can't be wrong, but saying the odds are he's got the better take on the situation.