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Topic: The Paw
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Alan Swank
5/15/2015 3:52 PM
Looks like it is officially back. Got a link to this tote in an official OU email today:

http://bobcatstore.ohioalumni.org/paw-tote-bag/
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Mike Johnson
5/15/2015 10:13 PM
I just received a photo of my 6-month-old grandnephew wearing a paw shirt. His mom is an OHIO alum.
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Mark Lembright '85
5/16/2015 6:43 PM
LONG LIVE THE PAW!!!
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Deciduous Forest Cat
5/17/2015 10:40 AM
I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now.
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Alan Swank
5/17/2015 6:26 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now.
I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
5/18/2015 9:54 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now.
I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years.
From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio.
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OhioCatFan
5/20/2015 8:32 PM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio.
+1

The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-)
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OhioStunter
7/24/2015 8:54 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now.
I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years.
There are many things I didn't like about Boeh, but the new logo wasn't one of them. Where he missed the mark, was not allowing the paw as a secondary logo and not reaping merchandising benefits from both logos.
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BillyTheCat
7/24/2015 9:30 PM
OhioStunter wrote:expand_more
I think the paw has been re-integrated into licensed merchandise for a few years now.
I wonder how much tom boeh's great idea to get rid of it cost us in licensed merchandise over the years.
There are many things I didn't like about Boeh, but the new logo wasn't one of them. Where he missed the mark, was not allowing the paw as a secondary logo and not reaping merchandising benefits from both logos.

I believe the separation was necessary to establish the brand, get as many Paw people to accept the new logo, by either choice or it wears on you, and get media all on the same page. I also see the rebranding years later as a good move and the right time. Just MO
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Alan Swank
8/18/2015 6:25 PM
OhioCatFan wrote:expand_more
From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio.
+1

The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-)
OCF - I hope you're not boycotting homecoming over this:

https://www.ohio.edu/homecoming /
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OhioCatFan
8/18/2015 8:02 PM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
From a branding perspective, it was the right call and I guarantee there were significant net gains in those years that followed. The Paw is where it belongs, a piece of nostalgia and a niche product for Ohio.
+1

The Paw is so damn generic and high schoolish that I'm starting to get embarrassed when I see it. The only college of note that uses it is Clemson. If you like, Ohio is willing to take your money. I'm OK with that. ;-)
OCF - I hope you're not boycotting homecoming over this:

https://www.ohio.edu/homecoming /
Hmm . . . guess they are just trying to appeal to students who were here
during the "lost years" of Cleve and PapaL I won't boycott. My last Bobcat Boycott was after the second or third game of the PapaL Era. I walked out of the stadium in the second quarter, I think it was, and never came back the rest of year.
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TWT
8/18/2015 9:14 PM
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
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Mark Lembright '85
8/18/2015 9:52 PM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.

HERESY!! The PAW and Dr. Ping are fantastic. Of course, I'm a 1985 grad.........
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OhioCatFan
8/18/2015 10:09 PM
Charles J. Ping had a lot on his plate when he became president, and he brought the university successfully out of near bankruptcy. He's a good and honest man, but I will not deny that he made a mess of ICA, and not just in the financial area. He made some other bonehead decisions in relation to athletics. It's not so much that he wanted to de-emphasize athletics but more that this was just not his area of expertise and he sometimes intervened in decisions that were best left to others. On the whole, though the Ping Administration gets very high marks from this Bobcat fan.
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Alan Swank
8/19/2015 8:34 AM
Uncle Wes wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking).
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shabamon
8/19/2015 8:59 AM
The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar.
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The Optimist
8/19/2015 10:47 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking).
MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently.
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Alan Swank
8/19/2015 10:53 AM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking).
MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently.
I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
8/19/2015 11:08 AM
shabamon wrote:expand_more
The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar.
The Paw we used was very much based on an actual Bobcat footprint.
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Alan Swank
8/19/2015 11:27 AM
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:expand_more
The Clemson paw works because it's an actual print from a tiger with paint on its paw. That's why there are so many imperfections on the logo's edges. There's even an indentation from where the tiger had a scar.
The Paw we used was very much based on an actual Bobcat footprint.
http://www.bear-tracker.com/bobcattrackphotos.html
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The Optimist
8/19/2015 11:45 AM
Alan Swank wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking).
MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently.
I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too.

I agree that athletes play for championships and fans expect championships. That doesn't change my point at all. ICA is valuable to a University far beyond the results on the field for one game or one season.

A MAC championship is not the only way to measure the value ICA brings to Ohio University. The value Ohio Athletics has brought to Ohio University the last decade is 100-fold compared to the decade prior, and that is without a MAC Championship in football.
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Alan Swank
8/19/2015 12:49 PM
The Optimist wrote:expand_more
"The Paw" was only an Ohio University trademark from 1977 to 1995. "The Attack Cat" has already outlived the paw. The paw is synonymous with the presidency of Charles Ping and his disregard for the ICA. Its a rebel flag for those who don't care for modern Ohio Athletics. A paw print is a stain on the carpet. It looks appropriate for a dog walking service advertisement.
Wow! Those are rather strong and I would say irrational statements. We won just as many MAC football titles under Dr. Ping as we have since. As for men's basketball, there were a few titles while he was here. And I don't know about you but a paw looks very nice on the back of those shorts they sell uptown (I'm ducking).
MAC championships are not the only measuring stick. MAC titles are not why ICA is supported at the levels that it is. The argument for that support revolves around generating national exposure for the University, and there is no argument we've been better off there recently.
I wonder what Monroe's reaction to that would be. Athletes play for championships and fans expect those too.

I agree that athletes play for championships and fans expect championships. That doesn't change my point at all. ICA is valuable to a University far beyond the results on the field for one game or one season.

A MAC championship is not the only way to measure the value ICA brings to Ohio University. The value Ohio Athletics has brought to Ohio University the last decade is 100-fold compared to the decade prior, and that is without a MAC Championship in football.
I can't/won't disagree with that but can you give us 5 objective and measurable examples of the value that you cite?
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