$830,000 to rectify the construction defect that facilitates the bat issue and make the home residentially habitable, $1.8MM to $2.1MM to upgrade the home for commercial use, not including the cost to remove the bats if they don't voluntarily leave once the construction starts. For those who are keeping score.
http://www.thepostathens.com/news/future-of-park-place-ou...No matter what is happening with 29 Park Place, they have to pay that $830,000 or considerably more to irresponsibly tear it down and replace it.
You seem to be implying that doing required maintenance that was clearly deferred too long (much like in dozens of other cases on campus) makes it OK to grossly overpay for an off-campus house in a very questionalbe quid pro quo deal.
I don't believe I implied anything, I'm simply stating facts. The University has to provide its President a place to live, via the contract for employment. If venue A is not available, then the Trustees have to put the President in a venue B. I made no reference to the present state of temporary/permanent housing, simply that the 29 Park needs renovations that nearly exceed its market value.
And they are paying over market value on option B, so what's your point?
Again, all I am doing is stating the facts from the article. I'm not making commentary on the $4,300 a month that the Trustees are paying for temporary housing. If you want to argue that $4,300 a month is grossly overpaying for 31 Coventry then good on 'ya, but that has nothing to do with anything I stated above.
But since you guys keep insisting that I am trying to make a point, let me make one: if you consider the debt service on the $830k required to make the residence once again fit for habitation, and equating it to a jumbo mortgage on a $830k home, which is a far lower rate than what the University will be paying to service the debt on that work, then the monthly payment would be $3,218 on $664,000, assuming the University could put down 20%.
The work is going to cost more than that considering lending rates applicable to remodeling an existing commercial building, but the math above is easy shorthand using a mortgage calculator. That shows the kind of problem that 40 years worth of deferred maintenance can lead to, and which is the position in which the University finds itself for most of its buildings, not just 29 Park Place. Those issues predate the current Trustees and President.
If you actually do want me to comment on if $4,300 is too much rent to pay for 31 Coventry, I can't do that because I don't know what fair market rent would be for that home in 45701.
I do know that a landlord should be entitled to charge more to renters in monthly rent than what their monthly payment, depreciation, taxes and insurance would be if they were in the business of renting homes to make a profit, because they would lose money if you didn't cover those costs. But ultimately, a property is worth what someone is willing to pay, either in a purchase or a rental, so ultimately the expenses of the owner are only relative to fair market value.
I have no idea if John Wharton has a mortgage on that property or what he paid for the house and the contiguous lots. For shits an giggles, let's just say that the current fair market value to buy 31 Coventry with the contiguous vacant lots is $750k. (web searches for 31 Coventry do not include the value with the contiguous lots, which are part of renting the property) With 20% down your mortgage balance is $600k, which would make your monthly payment $2,951.64.
I know that the annual property taxes are $18,545, based on a quick search on Trulia, which per month equates to $1,545.
I have no idea what Wharton paid for the home, so to determine the 27.5 year IRS depreciation schedule on 85% of just the house, let's use the Trulia current market valuation on only the home of $581k, which results in a monthly depreciation amount of $1,496.51.
I have no idea what the insurance cost on 31 Coventry is, but I know that with having a pool, it would be considerably higher than a home that doesn't have one, so let's conservatively call that $2,400 a year, or monthly it's $200.
So on a relatively quick, but non-scientific and largely based on logical assumptions from what is mostly public knowledge, the monthly costs to own that property as a rental are around $6,193.15
I have no idea what John Wharton's actual costs are for any of those items save for the property taxes, which are public record, so I have no way to comment on whether or not $4,300 is a sweetheart deal, a break even deal or a losing proposition for him or the University. I know that I own rental property, and if I consider all of the variables above in only the vaguest of estimates as I did above, on the surface I can't come to a conclusion that $4,300 a month is being grossly overpaid monthly rent for that property against what the monthly carrying costs are.
I could say that based on that data, I would not want to invest in 31 Coventry and take over that lease agreement with the University from John unless I were going to pay cash for the property and carry no debt, and even at that, I'd be pocketing less than $1,000 a month. Relative to what else I could do with $750,000, I could find several dozen/hundred other things I would rather do with my money to get a considerably better ROI.
Do any of you know John's costs for these things? If you do, I'd like to know what those are so I could make an informed decision on if I should be enraged or not that the University is overpaying him.
Now could the University have chosen a temporary residence that costs less than $4,300 per month? Likely. Do any of you know the actual equivalent value to the President of his being provided 29 Park Place in which to live, and which would be the Trustee's contractual obligation to provide while a final decision was being made on 29 Park Place? I don't. If you do, I'd like to know what that is so I could make an informed decision on if I should be enraged or not.
I haven't seen any of these items detailed in The Post either, but I have seen a lot of outrage from them, so I would like to have a comprehensive understanding of those facts in an attempt to convey why I should be as outraged as they are. I also have not seen any of those facts delivered by faculty or staff, so I would like to have a comprehensive understanding of their perception of the facts in an attempt for them to convey why I should be as outraged as they are.
Last Edited: 8/7/2015 2:09:25 PM by D.A.