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Monroe Slavin
6/28/2016 10:23 AM
Real nice Benghazi

To all my extreme, echo-chamber friends
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Monroe Slavin
6/28/2016 12:18 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-pharmaci...

Never thought that a business offering services to the public would successfully assert a claim to discriminate based on religious beliefs. That thought is so 18th century.
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MedinaCat
6/28/2016 2:32 PM
Futbol

https://www.yahoo.com/news/happens-wear-low-cut-top-15050...
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OhioCatFan
6/28/2016 11:01 PM
Oh those French . . . us Americans would never use this kind of criteria. ;-)
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rpbobcat
6/29/2016 6:46 AM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Real nice Benghazi

To all my extreme, echo-chamber friends
If the news reports about the Benghazi Report are correct,at the same time Mrs.Clinton was saying that the attack was because of a video,she emailed her daughter to say it was a terrorist attack.
Goes to that whole trustworthy thing.

Also,it was this investigation that brought Mrs. Clinton's unauthorized private email server to light.
You know, the one that required the State Department to shut down their security system to address problems with it.

The Russians were able to hack the DNC's system.I'm sure there's no way they could hack into hers.
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Monroe Slavin
6/29/2016 10:45 AM
Her characterization of it is really worrisome? See Trump, Donald if truth and reality bother you.


Her use of private email was not good. But evidence showed that other/prior high-ups in the State Department did the same.

Hillary's not blameless here.

But the incredible amount of investigations, pretty much admittedly aimed at ruining here, impressed no one.
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Monroe Slavin
6/29/2016 10:47 AM
Maybe more Congressional committees should keep on pursuing Benghazi. It's really what everyone wants.
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rpbobcat
6/29/2016 12:02 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Her characterization of it is really worrisome? See Trump, Donald if truth and reality bother you.


Her use of private email was not good. But evidence showed that other/prior high-ups in the State Department did the same.

Hillary's not blameless here.

But the incredible amount of investigations, pretty much admittedly aimed at ruining here, impressed no one.
Mrs.Clinton lied about the cause of Benghazi,for no reason other then political cover.
What's really disturbing is that she lied directly to the people who lost family members in the terrorist attack.

Lets also get the facts straight about the email issue.
Yes, other people used private email.But,for the most part,before a number of the current requirements were put in place.

However,no former Secretary of State ever used a private,unsecured email server,located in their residence.

She also did this, apparently without notification,let alone authorization.

If I recall correctly,the Clintons and/or their representatives originally asserted that, since they purchased the server with other then Government monies,the Government had no right to examine it.

There is a very interesting piece in yesterday's Washington Post,hardly a conservative paper, about the most recently released batch of emails.It basically says that, with each batch of emails that are released,her story gets harder and harder to believe.

If it wasn't for the current administration providing cover,the Inspector General's report would have been followed by an indictment.

It also remains to be seen what's in the hacked emails that Julian Assange says he's going to release.He has said they are enough,all by themselves,to indict
her.
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Monroe Slavin
6/29/2016 12:39 PM
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rpbobcat
6/29/2016 1:24 PM

First off,I never said anything about Mrs. Clinton being to blame for the Benghazi terrorist attack.

What I said was that,to provide political cover, she lied to family members of those murdered in the attack,as to its cause.I also said that,at the same time, she emailed her daughter with the truth.

As far as the Ambassador's family not blaming Mrs. Clinton for what happened at Benghazi,the article you posted uses a comment from 1 family member.
It says she had been acting as the family spokesman.But the article uses the word "I" as opposed to "we".That indicates its her opinion,not necessarily any other member of his family.

From the interviews I've seen/heard ,I don't believe the families of the other people who were murdered share this woman's opinion on Mrs. Clinton's culpability.
Last Edited: 6/29/2016 1:37:39 PM by rpbobcat
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Monroe Slavin
6/29/2016 4:40 PM
Enjoy the echo-chamber.

Flog that dead equine.

And, do it with great rancor.
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Mike Johnson
6/29/2016 5:24 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
Real nice Benghazi

To all my extreme, echo-chamber friends
If the news reports about the Benghazi Report are correct,at the same time Mrs.Clinton was saying that the attack was because of a video,she emailed her daughter to say it was a terrorist attack.
Goes to that whole trustworthy thing.

Also,it was this investigation that brought Mrs. Clinton's unauthorized private email server to light.
You know, the one that required the State Department to shut down their security system to address problems with it.

The Russians were able to hack the DNC's system.I'm sure there's no way they could hack into hers.
Now who could come to distrust a woman who declared - falsely - that her incoming aircraft came under sniper fire?

With that fib, I'm thinking she lost any hope of winning votes among most veterans.
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rpbobcat
6/30/2016 8:34 AM
Yesterday, a Federal Judge ordered the release of emails from Lona Vamora, Mrs. Clinton's State Department scheduler,in connection with what are characterized as "off the books" meetings she had with foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation, while she was Secretary of State.

What is somewhat surprising,is that the State Department went along with the request.

The Washington Post also reported yesterday afternoon that a new analysis shows at least 160 emails, related to her official duties as Secretary of State, were never turned over to the State Department,despite her assertions that all "work related" emails were.

Now we find out that Bill Clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch at Phoenix Airport this week.
Gee,that's not a conflict of interest,meeting in private with the person heading the Justice Department investigation of your wife ?
I wonder if Bill mentioned that his appointing her as a U.S.Attorney put her on the path to A.G.?

Dead equine ?
Last Edited: 6/30/2016 1:06:20 PM by rpbobcat
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Monroe Slavin
6/30/2016 7:10 PM
Look, I believe in the truth.

I also believe that, unfortunately, that needs to be leavened with reality, with politics.

Has there been any proof of Hillary doing much more than typical political disingenuousness (er, lying)? Has she made or pursued significantly bad aims?

Then, Trump.

Like it or not, would you cast Hillary aside and go with the only other apparently viable choice for the White House?


The right has really shown us that Benghazi is full of impeachable type offenses, hasn't it.
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rpbobcat
7/1/2016 6:51 AM
"Impeachable",I don't know.
From what I've read,the White House refused to let anyone testify at the Benghazi hearings.So we'll never know.

What I would like to know is why the Commander and Chief was missing in action while this thing was unfolding.

The Clintons have demonstrated time and time again that they don't believe laws should apply to them.

Mrs Clinton has been caught in so many lies,including about Benghazi and her emails that people have lost count.

She also flip flops on her positions to suit her audience.A perfect example is the Pacific Trade Deal.2012 great,now bad.

If the media gave her the same scrutiny they give Trump,including the airport meeting Billy had with the A.G.,we'd be discussing Bernie as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

I also find it odd that the media doesn't jump all over the fact that she hasn't held any type of press conference since I believe the end of last year.

Would Trump be a better president the Mrs. Clinton,I don't pretend to know.
Then again,I also don't know if he could be any worse.
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Jeff McKinney
7/1/2016 3:41 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
Look, I believe in the

Like it or not, would you cast Hillary aside and go with the only other apparently viable choice for the White House?
You're overlooking the Green Party's Jill Stein. She polled at 7% recently.
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Monroe Slavin
7/1/2016 4:29 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
"Impeachable",I don't know.
From what I've read,the White House refused to let anyone testify at the Benghazi hearings.So we'll never know.

What I would like to know is why the Commander and Chief was missing in action while this thing was unfolding.

The Clintons have demonstrated time and time again that they don't believe laws should apply to them.

Mrs Clinton has been caught in so many lies,including about Benghazi and her emails that people have lost count.

She also flip flops on her positions to suit her audience.A perfect example is the Pacific Trade Deal.2012 great,now bad.

If the media gave her the same scrutiny they give Trump,including the airport meeting Billy had with the A.G.,we'd be discussing Bernie as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

I also find it odd that the media doesn't jump all over the fact that she hasn't held any type of press conference since I believe the end of last year.

Would Trump be a better president the Mrs. Clinton,I don't pretend to know.
Then again,I also don't know if he could be any worse.

That's the best you've got...flipflop and unhappiness and suspicion?

Yeah, the Clintons are adept politicians. Purity doesn't seem to touch them.

Then again, some hard proof would be nice.
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rpbobcat
7/2/2016 2:23 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
"Impeachable",I don't know.
From what I've read,the White House refused to let anyone testify at the Benghazi hearings.So we'll never know.

What I would like to know is why the Commander and Chief was missing in action while this thing was unfolding.

The Clintons have demonstrated time and time again that they don't believe laws should apply to them.

Mrs Clinton has been caught in so many lies,including about Benghazi and her emails that people have lost count.

She also flip flops on her positions to suit her audience.A perfect example is the Pacific Trade Deal.2012 great,now bad.

If the media gave her the same scrutiny they give Trump,including the airport meeting Billy had with the A.G.,we'd be discussing Bernie as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

I also find it odd that the media doesn't jump all over the fact that she hasn't held any type of press conference since I believe the end of last year.

Would Trump be a better president the Mrs. Clinton,I don't pretend to know.
Then again,I also don't know if he could be any worse.

That's the best you've got...flipflop and unhappiness and suspicion?

Yeah, the Clintons are adept politicians. Purity doesn't seem to touch them.

Then again, some hard proof would be nice.
Wish you would define "hard proof".

Lying about the cause of Benghazi.

Lying about an unauthorized, unsecured email server.

Lying about being subjected to sniper fire, when your helicopter landed

Using a charitable foundation for self enrichment.

Claiming you're a reformer,yet refusing to release transcripts of the paid speeches you made to the people you are now pledging to reform.

Claiming to be a defender of women,except when its your husband who is accused of improper acts,including rape.

To me,this is all "hard proof" that this woman is,as Bernie Sanders said, unqualified to be president.

I know, no matter what I say, you'll try to marginalize it.

So I wonder, is there anything, short of her being forced out by an indictment, that would deter you from voting for her ?
Last Edited: 7/2/2016 2:34:20 PM by rpbobcat
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Monroe Slavin
7/2/2016 5:25 PM
get into it.
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bobcatsquared
7/2/2016 6:31 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
So I wonder, is there anything, short of her being forced out by an indictment, that would deter you from voting for her ?
The prospect of someone other than Trump winning the election?
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Monroe Slavin
7/3/2016 12:55 PM
rpbobcat wrote:expand_more
"Impeachable",I don't know.
From what I've read,the White House refused to let anyone testify at the Benghazi hearings.So we'll never know.

What I would like to know is why the Commander and Chief was missing in action while this thing was unfolding.

The Clintons have demonstrated time and time again that they don't believe laws should apply to them.

Mrs Clinton has been caught in so many lies,including about Benghazi and her emails that people have lost count.

She also flip flops on her positions to suit her audience.A perfect example is the Pacific Trade Deal.2012 great,now bad.

If the media gave her the same scrutiny they give Trump,including the airport meeting Billy had with the A.G.,we'd be discussing Bernie as the presumptive Democratic nominee.

I also find it odd that the media doesn't jump all over the fact that she hasn't held any type of press conference since I believe the end of last year.

Would Trump be a better president the Mrs. Clinton,I don't pretend to know.
Then again,I also don't know if he could be any worse.

That's the best you've got...flipflop and unhappiness and suspicion?

Yeah, the Clintons are adept politicians. Purity doesn't seem to touch them.

Then again, some hard proof would be nice.
Wish you would define "hard proof".

Lying about the cause of Benghazi.

Lying about an unauthorized, unsecured email server.

Lying about being subjected to sniper fire, when your helicopter landed

Using a charitable foundation for self enrichment.

Claiming you're a reformer,yet refusing to release transcripts of the paid speeches you made to the people you are now pledging to reform.

Claiming to be a defender of women,except when its your husband who is accused of improper acts,including rape.

To me,this is all "hard proof" that this woman is,as Bernie Sanders said, unqualified to be president.

I know, no matter what I say, you'll try to marginalize it.

So I wonder, is there anything, short of her being forced out by an indictment, that would deter you from voting for her ?
Nice vitriol.

Clearly, you are ready for some football action!
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Monroe Slavin
7/5/2016 12:08 PM
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rpbobcat
7/5/2016 12:54 PM
Monroe Slavin wrote:expand_more
After Biden decided not to run,Oboma endorsed her and Billy met with Lynch,it was apparent that there wouldn't be an indictment.

Now that we know that the meeting with Billy and Loretta took place the same week Mrs. Clinton was scheduled to be interviewed by the FBI makes it that much more unlikely it was just a coincidence.

I just finished reading "Hillary,The Other Woman".
One the thing book makes very clear,when it comes to politics, Billy and Hillary calculate everything.
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Monroe Slavin
7/5/2016 3:57 PM
Well, one must have an appreciation for a good scandal or accomplished use of walking on one side or the other of the borderline.


Which would significantly explain Trump.
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Pataskala
7/12/2016 3:42 PM
If the Republicans keep it up -- especially during an election year -- the public will soon see it as purely politically motivated. They should remember that pushing Bill's impeachment in 1998 cost them five house seats in that year's election and Gingrich his job.
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