Since you benefit by the relative tolerance for snarky left-wing comments, I understand why you don't like me pointing out the hammer usually falls after the snarky lefty comments are challenged. And, that's not always by me, BTW.

Given that this thread is headed toward "Siberia", that's actually appropriate.

Bill O'Reilly is a good man. Sometimes good people beat their spouses, harass multiple women and say racist things. Some people in their 60's lie to poorly educated demographics for profit. Fox fired a good, good man, a fair and balanced man.

don't kid yourself...just bow to a different throne.... lemmings always follow someone... and every generation is largely lemmings.

Comedy Central's Trevor Noah's take on O'Reilly and recent developments seems to agree.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-show-bill-oreil...

[QUOTE=bornacatfan] don't kid yourself...just bow to a different throne.... lemmings always follow someone... and every generation is largely lemmings. [/QUOTE
Whenever people do detestable thing like bowing to the throne, they want to bring others into that same equation. It is like me telling a smoker that skoking is bad for his or her health and them responding we are all going to die someway, or saying at least they don't eat high fructose corn syrup. I am not a millenial, but I have worked with a lot of them in the military and in the private sector. They are cut from a different cloth, they don't watch a lot of cable, they are weary of almost anybody in leadership. They do have some cult hero's, but they do not praise people that steal their money and use if for affairs, they don't allow people to scare them into hating people that don't look like them. On the contrary, they do believe in a lot of conspiracy theories and they are not as loyal as boomers.

And, allen, please stop the overly broad racist allegations. I know a lot of hillbillies that have no problem voting for an African American who shares their value system. Go back, for instance, and look at how Ken Blackwell carried the vast majority of SEO counties when he ran for statewide office. Or, look at Michael Steele's senate race in Maryland. He won every county in the state, except the two most populist counties near the D.C. beltway. He won all the mountain counties in the western panhandle filled with good old boys and girls who didn't look like him.

I'm sorry,but referring to someone as "uneducated" because they don't have a college degree and work in manufacturing sounds kind of "elitist".

How did Blackwell do in the governor's race? Blackwell and Steele are ploys. It is like when Newt Gingrich was running for president and he said something really racist, the gop came up with a strategy to put an african-american forward like Larry Elder to defend him. I am a vet with a master's degree, if I were stopped and kiled by the columbus pd, Sheriff Clarke would be there to defend the killing, because even though he knows it would be wrong, he wouldn't want to lose his political capital. I say that to say that Blackwell, Steele and Clarke are far from real, they are for sale and Blackwell found out that there was limit to his ploy when he got crushed in his attempt to be the governor. Now if you would have said Clayton Bigsby, I would agree that he is an anomaly, he has a lot of influence illustrated by the millions of books that they sold. I know Blackwell's daughter, she dated a friend of mine, who was a staffer for Ted Strickland and Marcia Fudge, he graduated from Ohio and went to Ohio State for law school, I believe she was his classmate.

Dr. Carson yes, the GOP even had to tell him to leave the campaign, he sold a lot of books on the campaign trail and claimed that our former President Obama was not really black, lol. I further support my view with the fact that he also was caught backing fraudulent medical products. Dr Condoleeza Rice, I believe is real, we may not agree politically, but she did not do ar say anything that would indicate that she was for sale.

I have a lot of resprect for you. I expect a good rebuttal. I don't slander anyone.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/09/politics/ben-carson-mannate... /
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ben-carson-puts-public-cam...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/ben-carson...
Ohio State Senator Jeff Jacobson asked Blackwell in July 2003 to disqualify Diebold Election Systems' bid to supply voting machines for the state, after security problems were discovered in its software,[29] but was refused.[citation needed] Blackwell had ordered Diebold touch screen voting machines, reversing an earlier decision by the state to purchase only optical scan voting machines which, unlike the touch screen devices, would leave a "paper trail" for recount purposes.[citation needed]

On April 4, 2006, the Columbus Dispatch reported that Blackwell "owned stock [83 shares, down from 178 shares purchased in January 2005] in Diebold, a voting-machine [and ATM] manufacturer, at the same time his office negotiated a deal" with the company. After discovering the stock ownership, Blackwell promptly sold the shares at a loss.[30] He attributed the purchase to an unidentified financial manager at Credit Suisse First Boston who he said had, without his knowledge, violated his instructions to avoid potential conflict of interest.[31]
On April 16, 2006, the Toledo Blade reported that Blackwell had accepted more than $1 million in campaign contributions from "employees of firms seeking business with the statewide offices he's held over the past 12 years." Furthermore, the same organizations donated $1.34 million to the Ohio Republican Party, $1.29 million of which was forwarded directly to Blackwell's campaign fund. Several of the firms which have been awarded contracts from Blackwell's office have also been hired on to his gubernatorial campaign. The investigators argue that the suggestion of quid pro quo based on the actions of contributors raise an issue of a serious conflict of interest. Petro has responded by demanding that a law which bans political contributors from being awarded state contracts. Blackwell has stated that no illegal activity took place. In response to Petro's call for reform, Blackwell stated: "If you are asking me ... 'Am I advocating for campaign spending limits?' No. Never have. Never will."[48]
Here he writes an artcle for Breitbart. Andrew Breitbart makes a KKK look like Martin Luther King Jr. http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/01/05/blackwell-media... /
Steele
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/strip-club-scand...
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/saving-steele-rnc-chairma...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rnc-chair-michael-steele-confe... /

Getting the thread back towards where it started, one thing I see is something that is a rather common misunderstanding of Christianity. Some people think that Christians believe they are morally superior. I would argue that the reverse is true, that Christians recognize that they are morally imperfect, and that therefore they need a savior.

Is Bill O'Reilly really a Christian? I have no idea. Certainly his behavior doesn't make it appear so. There don't seem to be any signs of remorse, any recognition of his wrongs, nor any attempt to reform. I tend to think he is just scum, but that's not my business. I've never watched the man's show in any case.

Next, about ORU, and their "test", I think that everyone here hopes that every Ohio coach, in every sport, makes some effort at evaluating the character of potential recruits. No one wants to read about athletes in the crime blotter. I have my doubts whether the ORU test will be effective, but if it works for them, I have no problem, since ORU is a private religious institution.