At least 8 wrestlers emerge with the same description of what happened at OSU with Jim Jordan as a coach and the locals can't wait to turn him into some sort of martyr. Meanwhile "Stormy Daniels" is arrested in the same town for consensual contact with another woman in a non-sexual manner.

This is bull5hit. Is Ohio turning into Mississippi?

So...it’s mere coincidence that Stormy Daniels, a very public political opponent of Trump’s, was arrested... using a law that has not been cited for 10 YEARS! (right when that coach is getting heat over his actions/inactions)

And when is there going to be an arrest in the Pike County massacre? They can (set up &) arrest a stripper with an obsolete unused misdemeanor law but can't make an arrest after the most expensive crime investigation in state history?

Kasich plays a "moderate republican" on t.v. pretty good but what is REALLY going on? Is the "stormy daniels" sham publicity stunt arrest supposed to be the example of law and order in the state capital city? Why don't they forget about the stripper for a minute and arrest somebody for the Rhodens massacre instead? This all makes the state look very small-time and amateurish.

more wrestlers have now come out and affirmed that jordan knew of the doctors actions. sad that some (in support of jordan) are taking the it’s “locker room talk” defense. that refrain sound familiar. i just can’t place it.

Actually,the wrestlers who say Jordan should have known, were the ones saying it was talked/joked about in the locker room.

I wrestled D1 in the mid-late 1970's.

We used to make all kinds of comments in the locker room.

Things like:

How come,no matter what injury I've got,trainer _______ wants to check me for a pulled groin ?

_________ really seems to like it when someone uses a high crotch or "t" bar on him.

Seems like ________ always takes a longer shower when ______ is in there too.

As a lot of people have said,unless you know what the atmosphere of OSU locker room was at that time,its hard to say what comments/jokes should have been taken seriously.

I would think if it the wrestlers did consider it a problem someone would have spoken directly to the coach at that time.

It also seems odd that these wrestlers put up with this.
We're not talking about 14 year olds.
These are all top athletes in their 20's.
It happens once,call it a mistake.
It happens again,I would think someone would have laid the doctor out.

I know people have said that some of the wrestlers were concerned/intimidated about what could happen if they said anything to a coach.

About the only thing the doctor could do is recommend someone not wrestle.
Its still up to the wrestler.
I know, when I tore the cartilage in my knee,the team doctor recommended I sit out.
But the decision was up to me.

I would also think that if the doctor did try that,OSU would worry about a wrestler going public.

I agree with OCF,let OSU finish their investigation,and let the chips fall where they may.

I was reading about this.

Apparently Ohio has different laws for "regular" vs."special guest" performers at "Gentlemen's Clubs".

And I thought N.J. was weird for having different laws for "Gentlemen's Clubs"
that serve alcohol vs. those that are BYOB.

In N.J.,despite what the Sopranos showed,performers in clubs that serve alcohol cannot be completely topless.
In clubs that are BYOB,they can.

I don't think "premeditated" is the appropriate word.
It implies that the police were going to do something,regardless of what Stormy did.
That wasn't the case.
They set her up with a sting.
She committed an act that they thought was against the law.

The police do have to answer for not being truthful about why they were at the club.
But they didn't do anything illegal.
Setting someone up,is not an "abuse of power".

I'd also like to know where,in the article you posted,is there any reference to politics.

I haven't seen anything that gives any indication of the political leanings of anyone involved.
It looks more like some local police officers were looking to make a big splash by arresting a celebrity.

Emails obtained by NBC News indicate that the arrest of Stormy Daniels by the Columbus Vice squad appears to have been planned in advance.
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/emails-show-stormy-dan...

"PLANNED IN ADVANCE" - gee, I wonder if that is the same as "pre-meditated"

And to answer the topic... the Columbus police act exactly the same as when bogus James Rhodes (with Nixon) had those kids slaughtered at Kent State and for many years after.

The state of Ohio should be embarrassed. I'm pretty sure it won't be.

Did you know that when Rhodes ran against Celeste in 1978, in the days leading up to the election, he had as many college aged people in the Columbus north and especially south campus area detained for anything he could have them held on to keep them from voting? Even jaywalking?

Rhodes served four terms as governor. As if that is supposed to be a good thing? So did George Wallace in Alabama. Just sayin'

The defeat of Roy Moore in Alabama at least shows progress. Ohio? Where's the progress? Congrats on letting the state become more @55 backwards than even Alabama.

Oh geez RP. She didn't actually commit a crime and they arrested her anyway. They didn't set up a sting. They targeted her directly with a bullshit crime that they thought couldn't be disproved. It's sick. At this point I think you'll defend anything our Traitor president does or anyone associated with him or motivated by him. We've truly lost you to Trumpism.

Ohio has officially turned into the white trash center of the midwest.

Did you know the residents of Ashtabula have actually nicknamed their hometown "trashtabula."

In the meanwhile...
Hannity backs Jim Jordan for House speaker
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hannity-backs-jim...

HAHAHAHAHA!! Can't be house speaker when your party loses the majority.

Just sayin'

recently seen on twitter:


@dale_callihan
22h22 hours ago

Being from the state of Ohio, I will be working extra hard along with my local Union to oust this no good dirty bastard Jim Jordan from his congressional seat, I have lived in Ohio all my life and no one knows Jim like I do and he is nothing but a no good dirty punk.

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My take... good to see there is somebody left in Ohio who can think for themselves and not fall for the fox news propaganda alternative (false) reality.

You could only name five legit ones out of 120+ on air fox newsers...

http://www.foxnews.com/person/personalities.html

That's fairly sad for fox news and does nothing to dispel their reputation as a propaganda wing of the trump crime family illegitimate white house.

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Meanwhile back in the capital city...

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/jeffrey-whitman /

https://www.newsweek.com/white-man-ohio-n-word-work-van-v...

Whitman deleted his Facebook account (which had racist photos on it).

{Lovett graduated from Western Kentucky University and is a member of the WKU Alumni Association Board of Directors}

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And now to tie that back in to fox news...

Fox News politics editor admits that Republicans stir "hatred and fear"
CHRIS STIREWALT (FOX NEWS POLITICS EDITOR): Well, it depends on what you're trying to do. Now, the conventional wisdom, very much, is that midterm elections are base versus base elections. You've got to get more of your true believers out than their true believers out, and what Republicans have found is that culture wars, wedge issues, work better than other things when it comes to frightening or enraging the people who they want to get to the polls. Saying, hey, everything is great, the economy is cooking is not a message that meets that conventional wisdom test. It might sound right and it might even be better for moving persuadable voters, but it's not the same as sort of affecting the lizard brain of the voter that responds to strong stimuli like hatred and fear.

just in case anybody missed that last part from the fox news political editor... this is what he said...
>>>but it's not the same as sort of affecting the lizard brain of the voter that responds to strong stimuli like hatred and fear.<<<

On another matter, greencat, could you please cite for me your sources for the statements you made about Governor Rhodes? As I recall you made several very specific charges against him -- one back to the Kent State tragedy and another from one of his later terms.

In terms of Kent State, I know that there are lots of different conspiracy theories related to the Kent State shootings. I'm not sure any of them hold much water. One of the theories is that the FBI actually burned down the ROTC Building in the days prior to the shootings and that Rhodes ordered that the guard shoot the rioters because he was a tool of the FBI. This theory traces the shootings back to J. Edgar Hooer, who supposedly ordered Rhodes to send in the ONG with live bullets to confront the protesters with all necessary force. To me this is highly doubtful.

I do remember that the head of the ONG, Maj. Gen. Sylvester T. Del Corso, did go on statewide radio when the guard was sent to Kent and made it clear that they would come with loaded rifles. He said something to the effect that he wouldn't send his men into a dangerous situation in which they weren't prepared to defend themselves. If you lived through this time, you know what the climate was like with violent protests, the burning down of college buildings (a few months later the explosion that leveled parts of a math building at U of Wisconsin), etc. And, of course, the KSU ROTC Building burned down two days before the shootings. (There is evidence that the building was not burned down by KSU students but by "outside agitators.") There was reason for members of the ONG to be afraid for their lives when they were sent into this type of situation. These were not peaceful protests. They were quite violent. I'm not excusing the excessive use of force by the ONG. Gov. Rhodes and other leaders should have had more restraint, IMHO. But, I think to analyze this situation adequately one needs to try to understand the whole climate in which it occurred.

Bingo. We have a winner.

Beware the parade of false equivalences always trotted out as needed by the (R) party and the like. (cough-cough "libertarians")

Beware the "Whoopi is just as bad as Roseanne" and the "good people on all sides" (normal people vs KKK and neo-nazis a while back) and the "but-but-but... what about the (non-existent) "alt-left" and "the Red Rooster Buffet told the Huckabee girl to hit the bricks, so discrimination against gays is now acceptable" and "Target had a sign up that said "Happy Holidays" that didnt specifically mention Jesus, so they are no different than devil worshipers who did a ritual sacrifice with goat's blood" and "if you are against the toddlers of refugees being kidnapped and tossed into gulags in the middle of the night, you must be an advocate for MS-13" etc etc etc

While I do fault trump for much of this currently, quite a bit of this BS conduct was started by Lee Atwater when Bush-1 trailed in the poll to Gov. Dukakis and the (R) party sold out totally to the shrill desperation tactics started by Joe McCarthy and the John Birch society. It failed for Goldwater, worked for Nixon and Reagan, worked and then failed for Bush-1, failed for Dole (Pat Buchanan's infamous convention speech), etc.

Now in the mid-terms every local yokel that decided to run for the house has an faux patriotic ad running about how much he loves trump, Jesus, guns, the flag, etc. (most of them never served)